Skip to comments.Breaking! Swiftee Founder Calls Freeper at Home, instructing: ”Full Speed Ahead!”
Posted on 10/14/2004 9:00:47 AM PDT by Aim Higher
On Wednesday night, October 13, 2004, retired Navy Rear Admiral Roy Francis Hoffman - Founder of the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth -- phoned Freeper Aim Higher at home with a two thumbs up.
Aim Higher had personally interviewed the Admiral on September 22nd. But before posting, Aim Higher got back with the Admiral by way of email, submitting the article to the Admiral for factual accuracy proofing and his stamp of approval.
Admiral Hoffmann called Aim Higher last night to confirm accuracy of all facts stated, and give the Swiftee endorsement:
Go forward with it. I like it. You write well: Its not overdone. You maintained the objective all the way through.
You can read the article, Freeper Interviews Swiftee Founder, Admiral Roy Hoffmann in the vanity section.
Please provide a link to your article.
What the heck is this about? It seems pretty pointless.
Link please or keyword
A first-hand interview is not a vanity.
what? no link?
Am I supposed to actually do something myself, like search for this piece??
" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"
Using this thread as an example, I would have to disagree. What the heck are you writing about?
I'm sorry I guess I don't remember that. I haven't gotten any spam email in five minutes... should I post that as breaking news? Just curious.
Breaking News: A nice man from Nigeria has found me to be a very trustworthy person, and is willing to let me help him transfer massive amounts of cash to American bank accounts for him!
Why don't you put a link to the article in your 'About' page?
" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"
I'm a newbie and was told that I could not post it anywhere else if it didn't appear in a newspaper.
Well, you should follow that instruction. But I believe there is an exception to that rule if you personally are first hand to news.
Welcome aboard, btw.
" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"
Freeper Interviews Swiftee Founder, Admiral Hoffmann
October 14, 2004 | Aim Higher
A MUST READ and pass along.....
Posted on 10/14/2004 9:24:53 AM CDT by Aim Higher
Dont make this [story] about meeting the Admiral, the Admiral requested of me. Make it about the boat men and the great job
they did. All the boat men. Thats what this thing is really about.
And so my interview with the most gracious Admiral Roy Hoffmann, Founder of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, came to a close -- in
the very same way it began -- with a porthole into the heart of a military man who, having attained such a high rank, has every reason
to be proud, but who is, instead, humble to the core.
When I first sat down with Admiral Hoffmann, I got my first glimpse through that porthole into his heart. Overcome with excitement to
meet this man I so admire because he is willing to take a public stand for the truth -- come what may -- he responded to my
uncontained effervescence by looking down at the table, shrugging his shoulder, and saying:
Oh, Im not anything.
Never one to have my enthusiasm easily dampened, I quickly shot back, Well, you sure have taken a lot of flack for what youre
Well, we have a saying, Admiral Hoffmann said. If youre not taking flack -- youre not on target.
Its not original, it comes from the old Army Air Corps. He paused, then couldnt resist teasing, But the Navys not embarrassed to
borrow an old Army Air Corps expression.
The Admirals eyes were shining. And I laughed. My father, a World War II veteran who flew missions over Italy, was part of that old
Army Air Corps.
I spent a privileged personal hour with Admiral Hoffmann. And, at his request, I wont make this all about him.
Nevertheless, the question must be asked:
What would drive a 78-year-old retired Navy Rear Admiral to come out of comfortable retirement to serve his country yet again --
knowing that hostile enemy fire is not only probable ahead, it is virtually guaranteed?
We would have just as soon forgotten all about Vietnam and that whole business, said Admiral Hoffmann. But when Kerry made it
the centerpiece of his campaign, we had to say something.
And there you have it.
Thus ended the Admirals retirement, if only temporarily. Along with his faithful band of determined Swiftees who have joined him in
coming out to serve their country one more time in fighting a new kind of war.
A War for The Truth.
Different War. Same Commander. Admiral Hoffmann was the overall commander of U.S. Swift Boats during the period of Kerrys Vietnam
coastal service. Thus he leads the charge again.
Some wars are not chosen. Indeed, this War for the Truth which Admiral Hoffmann and his Swiftees have found themselves engaged
in, has not been of their choosing. But the audacious war hero status in which their comrade-in-arms John Kerry has positioned
himself -- which Kerry himself chose to make the very centerpiece of his candidacy for Commander-in Chief -- has left them with no
alternative but to step forward and warn their country as to the true John Kerry, which they know to be at polar opposites to Kerry
the Presidential Candidate.
How does Kerry the Presidential Candidate want you, the American voter to see him?
Kerry wants you to see him as a Vietnam war hero with his faithful band of brothers standing by his side.
FACT # 1: At the Democratic Convention, only 13 vets actually stood by Kerrys side -- the same 13 that keep appearing with him
around the country. Where are the rest of his band of brothers?
FACT # 2: Only three of the 21 fellow Swift boat commanders still living from Kerrys Coastal Division 11 support his candidacy today.
FACT #3: Eleven of those commanders have unequivocally condemned Kerry -- in writing -- as being unfit to serve as
FACT # 4: Not one single officer Kerry served under in Vietnam backs his candidacy today. Not one. To the contrary -- going up
through the entire chain of command -- every single officer Kerry ever served under during his tour in Vietnam is opposed to his
candidacy, and considers him unfit to serve as Commander-in-Chief.
FACT # 5: Overall, more than 250 Swift Boat veterans are on record as questioning Kerrys fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief.
What is John Kerrys response to the thunderous, collective 250+ Swift Boat Veteran Voices for Truth?
Kerry says theyre nothing more than the dirty Republican attack machine going after him.
FACT # 6: Republicans and Democrats and Independents comprise the ranks of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.
FACT # 7: It is Kerrys own despicable actions in time of war which have galvanized Swift Boat Veterans across all party lines to come
together and stand as one, to tell the nation the truth about the real John Kerry -- before it is too late.
And that truth is .
John Kerry betrayed our country.
John Kerry betrayed his comrades-in-arms.
Serious charges. The most serious. And if you have any doubt whatsoever as to the absolute veracity of these charges, know this:
On the count of, John Kerry, betrayer of our country: It is a matter of historical record.
On the count of, John Kerry, betrayer of his comrades-in-arms: It is a matter of historical record.
And it is all expertly laid out in the bestseller, Unfit for Command, authored by John E. ONeill, along with Jerome R. Corsi, PH.D.
On the day I met Admiral Hoffmann, he greeted me with a gift copy of this book, knowing I was interviewing him specifically to post an
article on the internet. I had wanted to read Unfit for Command for a good while, and I was thrilled at the unexpected gift copy.
What I hadnt realized at the exact moment the Admiral gave me the book, is that primary author John ONeill is himself a Swiftee --
and the very naval officer who took command of Kerrys Swift Boat after Kerry left Vietnam. I hadnt realized that Unfit for Command is
the cornerstone of the entire Swiftee campaign against Kerry.
Once inside the pages, it became abundantly clear to me why Admiral Hoffmann had provided me with Unfit for Command. I had asked
to meet him, to shake his hand. To hear his story. And not just his story. The whole Swiftee story. And here it was right before me.
All the research, the factual data, the historical record. In short: The entire Swiftee case against Kerry -- every blistering detail -- in
Now, in honor of all Admiral Hoffmanns boat men, who served our nation so nobly in Vietnam, staying the course; on behalf and in
honor of all those who gave the last full measure -- here and now, I wish to stand.
I wish to stand with the truth tellers: The Swiftees -- and their new partners in truth -- our brave POWs. I wish to add my small voice
to their great, collective thunder. And I wish, along with them, to serve this great nation I so dearly love, by now publishing abroad,
across the internet, the truth about John Forbes Kerry.
JOHN KERRY BETRAYED OUR COUNTRY.....HISTORY TESTIFIES
Without permission, without authority, while the war in Vietnam was still being waged -- while Kerry was yet a Naval Reserve officer --
he made his way into the Paris Peace Conference in 1970 and spoke privately with the enemy.
Kerry was not a delegate to the peace talks. He had absolutely no legal authority to speak on behalf of our nation. By being there he
undermined negotiations of legitimate U.S. delegates with the Communist delegations -- and endangered every single one of our POWs
and every man still fighting the war.
But that didnt matter to Kerry.
Kerry wanted in. Somehow he got in. He had his own private talk with Madame Binh who represented the Viet Cong, in addition to
talks with other members of the Vietnamese Communist delegations.
Illegal, unauthorized, coalescing with the enemy during time of war -- this is what betraying your country looks like. And no amount of
spin during a presidential campaign can change what are the facts of history.
Michael Meehan, a Kerry presidential spokesman, insists that Kerry didnt go to Paris intending to meet with the Communist
No? Ok. Have it your way. Kerry never went to Paris intending to meet with our enemy.
Theres just one little problem with this cover story, Mr. Meehan:
American patriots do not engage in private, illegal, unauthorized meetings with our enemy in time of war -- intended or unintended.
Oh -- and one more thing. Cozy little chats with our countrys wartime enemy like your candidate Kerry engaged in? Those meetings
didnt just happen. They were arranged. And they werent arranged by patriots, either.
Well, that is to say -- patriots of the U.S.
John Kerry not only wants you and I to swallow the tale that his 1970 Paris meetings with the enemy were purely serendipitous --
he also wants us to believe they were purely for fact-finding purposes. Not negotiations.
Does this explain to the American public why only one year later, in 1971, Kerry -- along with his Vietnam Veterans against the War
brood -- were working directly with the enemy to oppose our countrys military objectives in the war?
In November of 1971, John Kerry was at the very helm of the VVAW when active consideration was underway to produce
propaganda films for broadcast to American soldiers fighting in Vietnam.
Would you say a U.S. Naval officer is with his country or working against it when he is planning to broadcast films to our American
soldiers, inducing them to refuse the orders of their superior officers in the field, and not engage the enemy in combat?
With us or against us?
Until recently, Kerry claimed that he resigned from the VVAW in June of 1971 -- five months before the Kansas City, Missouri meetings
took place, during which the aforementioned and other traitorous plans were being drafted. But FBI surveillance reports, now made
public, (along with eyewitnesses) have positively placed Kerry at these Kansas City meetings. Kerry now acknowledges he was
present at the meetings.
On the count of, Betrayer of the United States of America during time of war: The very records of history have testified. And
history finds John Kerry: Guilty as charged.
JOHN KERRY BETRAYED HIS COMRADES-IN-ARMS.....HISTORY TESTIFIES
How many times have Vietnam veterans been met with the savage charge, Baby killer!
And more to the point -- where did this wretched phrase even come from?
Look no further than John Forbes Kerry, executive steering committee member of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, and their
contemptible Winter Soldiers Investigation, conducted in Detroit in January of 1971.
The term winter soldiers refers back to the great pamphleteer, Thomas Paine, who wrote of George Washingtons brave soldiers
and their willingness to endure the meanest winter for the just cause of liberty:
These are the times that try mens souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in the crisis, shrink from the services of
their country, but he that stands in the now deserves the love and thanks of men and women.
Kerry and his fellow Vietnam Veterans Against the War fancied themselves the winter soldiers. The tough ones who deserve our
thanks. Why? Because they were willing to take on our evil government, dont you see, and stop them from waging that evil war in
Vietnam against those nice communist aggressors.
So the winter soldiers decided to play political war games -- and handily killed the reputation of two million comrades-in-arms.
They told lie after lie after lie about so-called war crimes, and gross atrocities committed by their brothers fighting the war -- the
true winter soldiers -- who were still serving honorably and dying on the soil in Vietnam.
One by one, the witnesses at the Winter Soldiers Investigation in Detroit were called up to the makeshift platform to testify to the
gruesome crimes they had personally seen committed by brother soldiers in Vietnam.
Shock tales of decapitations. Tear-gassing people for fun. Wires being attached to genitals and the power charge being turned up.
Women raped. Villages gunned down. Innocent children and babies massacred. Each bloody, savage, monster crime worst sounding
than the last. All done at the hands of the American soldier.
And most of it done, you know -- just for kicks.
Much of the testimony given during the investigations, the Detroit Free Press could not corroborate -- even with 10 days advance
notice. When the Free Press asked witnesses for affidavits, they were not able to produce them.
The Naval Criminal Investigative Service conducted their own inquiry. Several of the identities of those appearing before the Detroit
Winter Soldiers Investigation were found to be totally fake. The names of real veterans were stolen and used by fake witnesses
when they were testifying to all those savage, beastly acts they supposedly saw committed by our servicemen in Vietnam.
The NCIS has sworn statements and corroborating witnesses from the actual veterans whose names were stolen for use in this
charade. Not only were the real veterans not present at the Winter Soldiers Investigation -- one veteran whose name was
fraudulently used has never been to Detroit in his entire life!
And then there are the Special 11 witnesses at the Winter Soldiers Investigation who also testified to seeing their brother soldiers
commit war crimes so awful, no animal should be found doing such things. Ah yes. The very Special 11.
Wait a minute. What is it again that makes these 11 war veteran witnesses so special? Refresh my memory? Oh, thats right:
Our National Archives show no military records for these 11 war veterans whatsoever. No record that they have ever served in
any branch of the U.S. military.
Lies. Fraud. Fake witnesses. False testimony.
This is the legacy of Kerrys Winter Soldiers Investigation. And he didnt stop it at Detroit. Next stop: Washington, DC.
In the spring of 1971, Kerry presented before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, headed by William Fulbright, the same
undocumented maligning testimony of shock and horror tales that were told at the Winter Soldiers Investigation.
This time the whole world was listening -- including our enemy. They loved Kerrys testimony. They made great use of it. They ritually
tormented our POWs in their cells by playing Kerrys taped words over and over, while taunting our POWs with:
This is the voice of your own American Naval Officer. Even your own American Naval officer says you are war criminals. So you see it
is true. You are war criminals.
When Kerrys appearance before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee was done, his exercise in anti-war political theater had
succeeded. The anti-war, anti-Vietnam soldier sentiment in America had reached its fevered pitch.
Baby killers! became an instant part of the American lexicon. And the brave winter soldiers war game had successfully killed the
reputations of two million veterans.
Certainly there were some atrocities committed in Vietnam in some places at some times. There are in every war.
The difference is, John Forbes Kerry stood on the world stage and announced that savage, beastly atrocities committed against
innocent babies and other civilians were the casual day-to-day rule -- not the gross exception to the rule -- of the Vietnam soldier.
John Forbes Kerry -- testified against his comrades-in-arms before a captive world audience -- and committed wholesale character
assassination on every one of them, providing no proof of his accusations. No supporting evidence. No documentation. No sworn
statements. No corroboration.
Just one ugly, maligning tongue
which placed an instant and permanent cloak of disgrace and dishonor over the service and character of every single Vietnam
Men who deserved our respect and honor and appreciation for serving our country so well were instead greeted home with shouts
of, BABY KILLER!
Honorable young soldiers who had stayed the course in Vietnam returned to their hometowns where the citizens awaited their arrival
-- not to give them a heros welcome -- but to unload on them the spittle in their mouths.
Shame. Humiliation. Dishonor. Disgrace. These are the Welcome Home gifts that awaited countless thousands of Vietnam Veterans
upon returning home thanks to John Kerry, executive leader of the VVAW pack.
On the count of, Betrayer of his comrades-in-arms: History has testified. And history finds John Forbes Kerry: Guilty as charged.
Im John Kerry -- and Im reporting for duty!
This was Kerrys grand entry announcement along with a presumptive Commander-in-Chief military salute which he gave to thunderous
applause at his Boston Democratic Convention in July.
Is this the kind of man you want reporting for duty as our next Commander-in-Chief on January 20, 2005?
A man who betrayed his country in time of war. A man who betrayed his comrades-in-arms.
No? Then I urge you to accept this challenge: Ive just put my money where my mouth is -- Ive just given $50 today to stand with the
Swift Boat Veterans and POWs for Truth.
Click on the link below, and lets help keep their killer ads on the air, and keep the truth about John Kerry before the American
Every vote counts! Remember Election 2000!
On Wednesday, September 22, when I interviewed Admiral Hoffmann, Bush was way up in the polls. I expressed my optimism because
of what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign was accomplishing.
If [Kerry] wins, said Admiral Hoffmann grimacing, I guess well all just have to grit our teeth and salute.
Shocked, I looked at the Admiral and countered with my encouragement over the great difference they were making in turning the
tide across America.
But the Admiral, a veteran of many wars, who knew and had experienced the bitter realities of combat firsthand -- knew the truth.
Dont think this thing is over, he warned. Kerry is slick.
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Must be a lot of us trustworthy types around----I got one too
I'm sorry, Mark. I'm a newbie.
Magic 8-Ball says:
I'm sorry. Stupid newbie here. Here's that link.
Yeah, I have a link -- it'd be nice if I gave it to you, wouldn't it? I keep having to apologize for the fingernails on the blackboard. I'm a newbie and I know am causing a lot of people to pull their hair out. Sorry for that! Here's that link:
keyword: stupid newbie
No, you're not supposed to search for this yourself. I'm supposed to apologize for being the dumb newbie that I am and irritating the heck out of about a thousand people who are asking the same question you are: Where's the link?!
Sorry about that.
Good job on the article, A.H.
Also found on this page at post 19
Now I REALLY FEEL STUPID. You already looked it up. Well, I'm sorry you had to, but it was awful nice of you to reply with the link to help out. Thanks RaceBannon.
Aim, just so you know, the link you are posting is missing a couple of letters.
Your article is here:
The "write well" comment the Admiral made refers to the article linked below:
Welcome to Free Republic. Read your interview and thought it was great! Thanks for posting. You did good!!
bump to read later
Thank you for your kind words, joesnuffy
Oh well that's just great. just great. first I don't put the link out there, then I get it wrong. love it. thanks for the heads up. am on it. sheeesh.
corrected link to Swiftee article:
Great article! Any newbie brave enough to post an article will have to endure some grief. It is somewhat like an intiation I guess. Hang in there... the newbie stuff will pass quickly.
Welcome to Free Republic and thank you for sharing your article.
THANK you Amanda. God bless you for your encouragement.
Thank you so much, and thank you for reading, ruoflaw.
Hey, thanks so much Boxsford! That really encourages me. A lot.
You are so welcome. By the way, I signed up in 2000 after lurking for a few years & I think I've only posted one article (either too slow or too chicken). I wouldn't miss a day here on FR!! I think you will be a great asset to this forum. May God bless you as well.
I definitely will check it out. Thanks!
Not to worry Aim Higher, most of us are newbies. Thanks for caring enough to post.
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