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The Evolution of Senator Kerry on Abortion: 1972-2004
Various | 10-14-04 (compiled) | John Kerry

Posted on 10/14/2004 1:15:19 PM PDT by cgk

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There are many many cliches to adequately describe Kerry's "evolution" on abortion, but I believe they've all been applied. His own words speak better than any cliche or label.
1 posted on 10/14/2004 1:15:19 PM PDT by cgk
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To: afraidfortherepublic; AlbionGirl; anniegetyourgun; Aquinasfan; Archangelsk; A-teamMom; ...

Ping. Input appreciated.

Pro-life and pro-baby.


2 posted on 10/14/2004 1:16:36 PM PDT by cgk (FReepers' Prayers helped to match my husband to his brother for a bone marrow match.)
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",,,difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth"

Spoken by the King of Clarity


3 posted on 10/14/2004 1:17:43 PM PDT by austinaero
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"I would find it very difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth."

It's God's fault!!


4 posted on 10/14/2004 1:25:33 PM PDT by trublu
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To: austinaero

"I would find it very difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth.

It's God's fault!!


5 posted on 10/14/2004 1:27:22 PM PDT by trublu
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; NYer
PING

My DSL is still out! (Since Saturday aarrrrgggg!!! Bell South be DAMNED!!!
LOL)

I do not have my list on this PC. Please PING ya'll's lists.
6 posted on 10/14/2004 1:39:05 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (Abortion is the Choice of Satan, the father of lies and a MURDERER from the beginning.)
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To: cgk

Excellent. I'm printing this and sticking it on windshields at the local Catholic churches - there are too many Catholic Dems in these parts who will vote as their unions tell them, and not as their consciences would.


7 posted on 10/14/2004 1:39:19 PM PDT by mountaineer
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"I would find it very difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth.

Hmmm...how about:

"Thou shalt not kill" (Ten Commandments)

Hmmm...pretty unclear to me. /extreme sarcasm

8 posted on 10/14/2004 1:44:11 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (John Kerry: a WJD--Weapon of Job Destruction. Vote Bush/Cheney 2004!!!)
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"I would find it very difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth."

I think He has John, in one short unequivocal phrase that might have escaped your search for nuance:

"Thou Shalt Not Kill."

9 posted on 10/14/2004 1:48:30 PM PDT by browardchad
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10 posted on 10/14/2004 1:54:31 PM PDT by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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And I think, therefore, with a sense of justice in mind that one has to leave the question of abortion between a woman and her conscience and her doctor.
Justice and abortion are mutually exclusive, Senator.
11 posted on 10/14/2004 2:08:40 PM PDT by eastsider
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I believe that some have it right when they say, he simply has no soul left.


12 posted on 10/14/2004 2:11:03 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray without ceasing.)
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I would find it very difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth.

How about these thoughts?....

Exodus 20:13

You shall not murder.

Psalm 139:13-16

For you [God] created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful,I know that full well.
My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body.
All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
(Emphasis added)

Matthew 19:14

Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these

I think it has been made quite clear....

Regards

13 posted on 10/14/2004 2:15:26 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The answers are out there; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions)
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Let's change this a little bit...

First of all, I cannot tell you how deeply I respect the belief [that rape and murder are wrong]...

But I can't take what is an article of faith for me and legislate it for someone who doesn't share that article of faith

I would find it very difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth.

14 posted on 10/14/2004 4:05:03 PM PDT by DrewsDad
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I would find it very difficult to legislate on something God himself has not seen fit to make clear to all the people on this earth...


Thous Shalt Not Kill!

Seems clear to me ... and I was never an altar boy.

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


15 posted on 10/14/2004 4:51:30 PM PDT by NYer (Where Peter is, there is the Church.)
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Kerry is not only wrong on his positions but his so-called profession of faith and that he was once an altar boy statements affirm that he is promoting scandal, another Roman Catholic sin. He will answer to God for what he wrongly proclaims and the sin he causes among others.
16 posted on 10/14/2004 5:03:46 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Vote W, and then vote again!)
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It's just another Kerry flip flop. He has no beliefs that go beyond dipping into rich women's wallets.

Al Gore did the same switcheroo...


17 posted on 10/14/2004 5:08:09 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: cgk

Thanks so much for the summary... I am adding it to these, which I got from a pro-life email.

Now what about his record of votes?



Senator Kerry:

"I believe that choice [abortion] is a woman's choice. It's between a woman, God, and her doctor. And that's why I support that. Now, I will not allow somebody to come in and change Roe v. Wade. The president has never said whether or not he would do that. But we know from the people he's tried to appoint to the court he wants to. I will not. I will defend the right of Roe v. Wade."

President Bush:

"I think it's important to promote a culture of life. I think a hospitable society is a society where every being counts and every person matters. I believe the ideal world is one in which every child is protected in law and welcomed to life. I understand there's great differences on this issue of abortion, but I believe reasonable people can come together and put good law in place that will help reduce the number of abortions.

Take, for example, the ban on partial-birth abortion. It's a brutal practice. People from both political parties came together in the halls of Congress and voted overwhelmingly to ban that practice. It made a lot of sense. My opponent, in that he's out of the mainstream, voted against that law.

What I'm saying is is that as we promote life and promote a culture of life, surely there are ways we can work together to reduce the number of abortions: continue to promote adoption laws -- it's a great alternative to abortion -- continue to fund and promote maternity group homes; I will continue to promote abstinence programs."


18 posted on 10/14/2004 5:50:31 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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So, he's another Gephardt. Another Rat without any real convictions. He changes his stance to fit the ideals of the kook base in his party.


19 posted on 10/14/2004 5:50:36 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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HUman Events: The Case Against Kerry - Reason #5: Kerry is a Pro-Abortion Extremist

"Nothing is more important to NARAL Pro-Choice America, nothing is more important to me, between now and November, than seeing John Kerry place his hand on George Washington's Bible next January" - Kate Michelman

The presidential election of 2004 may be just as close as the presidential election of 2000. Once again, the outcome could be determined by a handful of votes in a single state.

Yet, the stakes in this election are enormous. While the vote margin between President Bush and Democratic candidate John Kerry may turn out to be small, the differences in where they intend to take the country are vast.

Kerry is the most liberal member of the U.S. Senate. But he has labored in this campaign--and especially at the Democratic National Convention in Boston--to hide his true beliefs and obscure his record.

In "The Case Against Kerry," HUMAN EVENTS sets the record straight, unmasking the plain truth of what John Kerry has done in two decades in the U.S. Senate.

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Kerry is a Pro-Abortion Extremist

Pro-lifers need not look far to find conclusive evidence that John Kerry would be the most extreme pro-abortion President America has ever had. The pro-abortion movement is loudly proclaiming it.

Speaking at an April 23, 2004 Kerry for President rally, then-NARAL Pro-Choice America President Kate Michelman (who now heads the Democratic National Committee's so-called "Campaign to Save the Court") defined the campaign through the eyes of the pro-abortion movement. "There has never, not in my life, not in NARAL Pro-Choice America's life, never, never been a more important presidential election for the women of this nation and the women of the world," said Michelman. "We have never, ever before in our nation's history had a President whose attitudes toward women are more wrongheaded and more dangerous than those of our current President, George W. Bush. Nor has there been any leader in America today more courageous, more compassionate, more caring, whose beliefs about women are more progressive, thoughtful, and more forward-looking than our next President, John Kerry."

At the rally, Michelman made Kerry a pledge. "We're going to spread the word on doorsteps and in cyberspace, on television and over the telephone, over the airwaves and at the grassroots," she said, "and, John, here's a guaranteed result for your plan to restore America's economy, we're going to wear out so many pro-choice leather soles in so many pro-choice shoes, that come November, our national shoe leather industry will be in the throes of an historic boom. We're going to march all over this country. We will not rest, and I will not rest. Nothing is more important to NARAL Pro-Choice America, nothing is more important to me, between now and November, than seeing John Kerry place his hand on George Washington's Bible next January, and swear to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America."

Michelman's confidence in Kerry's commitment to the pro-abortion cause is amply born out by Kerry's record. His votes and statements indicate he has been a strong and consistent supporter of everything from keeping partial-birth abortion legal, to providing foreign aid to promote abortion, to pledging to filibuster pro-life judges.

A Perfect Pro-Abortion Record

PROPOSAL
VOTE
Roe v. Wade FOR:Voted Yes on Harkin Amendment to S 3, Vote #48, 3/12/03, and to S 1692, Vote #337, 10/21/99 stating: 'Roe v. Wade was an appropriate decision and secures an important constitutional right; and such decision should not be overturned.'
Partial Birth Abortion Ban AGAINST:Voted No on S 3, Vote #402, 10/21/03; Voted No on S 1692, Vote #340, 10/21/99; Voted No on HR 1122, Vote #277, 9/18/98; Voted No on HR 1122, Vote #71, 5/20/97.
International Planned Parenthood Funding FOR:Voted Yes on HJ RES 36, Vote #13, 2/25/97.
Evading Parental Notification Laws By Allowing Minors to be Taken Across State Lines For Abortions FOR:Voted No on cloture for HR 3682, Vote #282, 9/22/98.
Federal Funding for Federal Employees' Abortions FOR:Voted Yes on tabling S 1282, Vote #197, 7/1/99; Voted No on DeWine Amendment, Vote #190, 7/22/97.
Abortion at U.S. Military Bases FOR:Voted No on tabling amendment to S 2549, Vote #134, 6/20/00; Voted Yes on S 2514, Vote #160, 6/21/02; Voted No on S 1059, Vote #158, 5/26/99; Voted Yes on S 2057, Vote #176, 6/25/98; Voted Yes on S 936, Vote #167, 7/10/97.
Unborn Victims of Violence Act AGAINST:Voted no on passage of HR 1997, 'Lacie and Connor's Law,' Vote #63, 3/25/04.


Pledges Made to Pro-Abortion Activists

"I am prepared to filibuster, if necessary, any Supreme Court nominee who would turn back the clock on a woman's right to choose or the constitutional right to privacy."
--JOHN KERRY
Associated Press,
June 20, 2003


"As President, I will only appoint Supreme Court justices who will uphold a woman's right to choose."
--JOHN KERRY
www.johnkerry.com/issues/women
March 8, 2003


"I cannot, however, support this bill [S. 46, Unborn Children's Civil Rights Act of 1985] because it is based on the premise that the fetus is a living human being. This is a religious, not scientific belief, and as such, I cannot support any legislation which imposes any one religious view on all people."
--JOHN KERRY
in a letter to a Massachusetts constituent,
as reported by the National
Right to Life Committee,
July 30, 1985


"[My first executive order would be to] Reverse the Mexico City policy on the gag rule [which stops U.S. foreign aid from going to organizations that promote abortion overseas] so that we take a responsible position globally on family planning."
--JOHN KERRY
Democratic debate,
Feb. 26, 2004


"President Bush has signed legislation [the Partial Birth Abortion Ban] that takes a step backwards for women as his stealth agenda to roll back the right to choose is pushed forward."
--JOHN KERRY
Press Release
Nov. 3, 2003


"I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion. I believe life does begin at conception. But I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith, and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist...who doesn't share it. We have separation of church and state in the United States of America."
--JOHN KERRY
The Dubuque Telegraph Herald
July 5, 2004


"The right to choose abortion is a fundamental right, based on each woman's right to privacy. Neither the government nor any person has the right to infringe on that freedom."
--JOHN KERRY
Congressional Record, S 453
Jan. 22, 1985


"We're not going to let you turn back the clock. No overturning Row v. Wade. No packing the courts with justices hostile to choice. No denial of choice to poor women."
--JOHN KERRY, delivering a public
rebuke to President Bush,
NARAL 30th Anniversary Banquet
Jan. 21, 2003


"We need to energize a new generation of citizens that care about freedom [to] stand up and make clear that we can't go back....We will never let this right [to abortion on demand] be taken away."
--JOHN KERRY
Press release on the 31st anniversary of Roe v. Wade
Jan. 22, 2004

Ten Reasons John Kerry Should Not Be President

20 posted on 10/14/2004 6:05:40 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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