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U.S., Iraqis launch attacks in Falluja
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/14/iraq.main/index.html ^

Posted on 10/14/2004 3:27:27 PM PDT by jmc1969

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To: RaceBannon

God bless our Marines and the brave Iraqis with them.


41 posted on 10/14/2004 4:37:57 PM PDT by LisaFab
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To: elfman2

U.S. Marines launch air and ground attacks after Fallujah delegation suspends peace talks
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20041014-1549-iraq-fallujah.html

By Nadia Abou El-Magd
ASSOCIATED PRESS
3:49 p.m. October 14, 2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq – U.S. Marines launched air and ground attacks Thursday on the insurgent bastion Fallujah after city representatives suspended peace talks with the government over Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's demand to hand over terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

Late Thursday, residents of the city, 40 miles west of Baghdad, reported shuddering American bombardments using planes and armored vehicles in what they said was the most intensive shelling since U.S. forces began weeks of "precision strikes" aimed at al-Zarqawi's network.

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In Washington, however, a senior military official, speaking on operational matters on condition of anonymity, described the latest fighting as strikes against specific targets and of the same scope as previous attacks into Fallujah.

Warplanes and artillery pounded the city as two U.S. Marine battalions attacked rebel positions to "restore security and stability," 1st Lt. Lyle Gilbert, a spokesman for the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, told CNN.

"It is going to be a long night," he said.

Maj. Francis Piccoli, spokesman for the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, told The Associated Press that two Marine battalions were engaged in the fight backed up by aircraft.

He would not say the attack was the start of a major campaign to recapture the city, saying he did not want to jeopardize any future operations.

Piccoli said the goal of the operation was to "disrupt the capabilities of the anti-Iraqi forces."

"Ultimately, the intent is to help the Iraqi government bring in democracy," he added. "As you bring in sustained security and stability, the Iraqi government can build on as they go into elections" in January.

U.S. officials believe al-Zarqawi's terrorist group, Tawhid and Jihad, is headquartered in Fallujah. The group purportedly claimed responsibility for two suicide bombings inside the heavily guarded Green Zone in Baghdad on Thursday, according to a statement posted on a Web site known for its Islamic content. The unprecedented attack killed 10 people, including four Americans, and wounded 20.

The U.S. military said its targets were linked to al-Zarqawi's terrorist network, including a building being used to store weapons, two safehouses used to plan attacks, several illegal checkpoints and a weapons cache.

At least five people were killed and 16 wounded, according to Fallujah General Hospital.

Fallujah residents said the Americans were attacking several areas with rockets, artillery and tanks. One resident said U.S. forces were using loudspeakers in the west of the city to urge Fallujah fighters to lay down their arms "because we are going to push into Fallujah."

Residents reached by telephone from Baghdad also said there were sharp clashes in the northern part of the city, which was a major battlefield during last April's Marine siege of Fallujah.

Allawi warned Wednesday that Fallujah must surrender al-Zarqawi and other foreign fighters or face military attack.

Abu Asaad, spokesman for the religious council of Fallujah, said that "handing over al-Zarqawi" was an "impossible condition" since even the Americans were unable to catch him.

"Since we exhausted all peaceful solutions, the city is now ready to bear arms and defend its religion and honor and it's not afraid of Allawi's statements," Asaad said in a live interview with Al-Jazeera television.

However, he used the Arabic word for "suspend," implying that the talks could resume later.

"We are not afraid of Ayad Allawi's statements or the American troops," Asaad said. "The government now is an (American) agent that is working to make this city easy for American troops to enter and do what they want."

Negotiations had been aimed at restoring government control to Fallujah, which fell under the domination of clerics and their armed mujahedeen followers after the end of the three-week Marine siege last April.

"Military operations didn't even stop when the negotiating delegation was in Baghdad," Asaad said. "Dozens are killed every day. Entire families have been eliminated."

The government made no comment about the breakdown of the Fallujah talks. However, national security adviser Qassem Dawoud said military operations against Fallujah "will continue" until the city "has been cleansed" of "terrorists."

Dawoud said he is hopeful the delegation will succeed in ridding the city of insurgents.

"I hope they can succeed and can take them away from Fallujah as soon as possible, or otherwise, we're preparing ourselves to smash them ... by military means," he said.


42 posted on 10/14/2004 4:46:03 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: jmc1969
I hope the soldier we adopted through Operation AC is ok. He's in Falluja. This may explain why I haven't had an e-mail from him in a while, he may be a bit busy right now.

MKM

43 posted on 10/14/2004 4:48:26 PM PDT by mykdsmom (Proud Google Monkey since November 9th, 2000!)
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To: Gator113
If it were up to me, I would let it stop until Falluja was flat and dead.

Fallujah will not be flattened, nor should it be.


44 posted on 10/14/2004 5:12:10 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: jmc1969
These guys are not only fighting terrorists, they are fighting the DNC. A poll of the military showed they support Bush by over 50 pts. This must have been what it was like to fight in the Revolution or the Civil War when large percentages of the population didn't support those who were doing the fighting, and when those who were doing the fighting believed in what they were doing. I hope Kerry becomes persona non grata in the Democratic party after this election, along with MaCauliffe (however you spell it).
45 posted on 10/14/2004 5:12:39 PM PDT by ml1954 (John 'Superman' Kerry..... A legend in his own mind.)
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To: jmc1969

God bless oor troops.


46 posted on 10/14/2004 5:13:40 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: jmc1969
This is starting to have the sound of, "We have them where we want them."

Eat sh*t and die, murderers.

47 posted on 10/14/2004 5:14:36 PM PDT by stboz
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To: jmc1969
I thought there wasn't going to be any action in Iraq until after the election.

It's nice to see the adults in charge.

Godspeed Marines! Be safe. Go get 'em. Find another spider hole where the decapitator hides.
48 posted on 10/14/2004 5:17:49 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: SAMWolf

lol. enjoyed your tagline.


49 posted on 10/14/2004 5:20:18 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

A-men.


50 posted on 10/14/2004 5:20:21 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: BushisTheMan

Allawi may need/want Bush to win more than Bush himself.

If Kerry wins, he faces an uncertain future to say the least.


51 posted on 10/14/2004 5:22:47 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: nuconvert

Thanks. ;-)


52 posted on 10/14/2004 5:29:04 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I have an inferiority complex, but not a very good one.)
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To: jmc1969
"We've been looking forward to this for a long time," Gilbert said...

Us too. No need for undue haste - make them fight and kill them.

53 posted on 10/14/2004 5:33:30 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Great new! Will be better when the Headline reads Iraqis and US .... and the best when it reads Iraqis singlehandedly launch and then Secure....


54 posted on 10/14/2004 6:11:04 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Finalapproach29er

uncertain future for Allawi under Kerry? you could say that - its would be a choice of death, or being on the run for the rest of his life.


55 posted on 10/14/2004 6:57:28 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dog

what's your feeling on the timing of this? does Bush feel he can score a win here fast, before the election, with limited losses? I have to say, this move is the political razor's edge - the downside risk being some large loss of life for US forces, just before the election; the upside is nabbing Zarqawi.


56 posted on 10/14/2004 6:59:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: jmc1969

They will long for the days of panties on their heads and dog leashes!


57 posted on 10/14/2004 7:47:27 PM PDT by Henchman (Kerry: No guts, No Glory, No way!)
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To: oceanview
"does Bush feel he can score a win here fast, before the election, "

I think there’s some, but relatively little political considerations regarding the timing. Also, from what I’ve read, it’s Rumsfeld that makes the political decisions in this case, Bush totally delegates it to him.

58 posted on 10/14/2004 7:49:11 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: jmc1969
Hey Guys! Kill one for me.

Jammer
59 posted on 10/14/2004 8:18:11 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: oceanview
...does Bush feel he can score a win here fast, before the election, with limited losses? I have to say, this move is the political razor's edge - the downside risk being some large loss of life for US forces, just before the election; the upside is nabbing Zarqawi.

The political objective;

The timing;


60 posted on 10/14/2004 8:18:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
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