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Uprising/Revolution in Bolivia Breaking RIGHT NOW?!!!
Me | October 14, 2004 | Chicago Hebrew

Posted on 10/14/2004 4:17:07 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew

I'm writing this from an internet cafe in La Paz, Bolivia. About fifteen minutes ago, I started to hear what I think was gunfire and cannon fire from right outside the cafe. It was shortly followed by bullhorns booming and people chanting. The gunfire is intermittent now.

I have no idea what's happening.


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To: ChicagoHebrew

What the heck is a civilized person doing in Bolivia?


51 posted on 10/14/2004 4:24:54 PM PDT by Radix (What turns orange in Sept., is carved up in Oct., and is thrown out in Nov.?)
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To: FreedomCalls

Good call. During most Revolutions they don't let many people hang out in the cafes and sip coffee.


52 posted on 10/14/2004 4:24:59 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: ChicagoHebrew; Squantos

Keep your head low and, borrowing an expression from Squantos "Stay safe!"


53 posted on 10/14/2004 4:25:09 PM PDT by bd476
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To: knak

Bolivan verision of Christy Lane.


54 posted on 10/14/2004 4:25:13 PM PDT by Dog
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To: B Knotts

Hey you beat me, I just found that too.


55 posted on 10/14/2004 4:25:32 PM PDT by knak
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To: ChicagoHebrew

There was an uprising in October of last year...anniversary?


56 posted on 10/14/2004 4:25:33 PM PDT by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Bill raped, Monica swallowed, Hillary totally sucks.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

LOL! O.K. I feel a little better for you right now! When you get back here, safe and sound, a thread about your screen name might be interesting! Regards, SVITW


57 posted on 10/14/2004 4:25:46 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: dfwgator
The Revolution won't be televised. It will be streamed via Real Player.

Good one!

58 posted on 10/14/2004 4:25:46 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: ChicagoHebrew
About fifteen minutes ago, I started to hear what I think was gunfire and cannon fire from right outside the cafe. It was shortly followed by bullhorns booming and people chanting. The gunfire is intermittent now.

Eat your burrito and act like nothing is happening. When you look up, just smile and go back to eating.

59 posted on 10/14/2004 4:26:09 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Ducking And Running For Cover Duck and Run for Cover!
60 posted on 10/14/2004 4:26:13 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

I don't know if this is related, but it was posted 4 hours ago.

Bolivia Congress authorizes trial for ex-president
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N14179635.htm


61 posted on 10/14/2004 4:26:20 PM PDT by Rebelbase ("We will crush Al Qaeda"....Silky Pony)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Do you think it is an Iraqi wedding?


62 posted on 10/14/2004 4:26:58 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: pbear8

All of your south america capitals are belong to us...


63 posted on 10/14/2004 4:27:32 PM PDT by RUCKUS INC. (Mount St. Helens is just warming up for the impending armageddon should John Kerry win in Nov.)
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To: Dog

LOL


64 posted on 10/14/2004 4:27:41 PM PDT by knak
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To: ChicagoHebrew
To everyone, I think it's quieting down. There is still chanting, but no gunfire. No one in the cafe seems worried anymore (they were ten minutes ago). I don´t think it was a revolution, apparently there was a large march of indigineous people that the police tried to disperse or something -- firing blanks into the air, these were the sounds I was hearing. I don't really know much more, and I'm unsure about the veracity of even that. I'm sorry if I got you all worried or excited over nothing.

The streets are relatively quiet now, so I´ll be signing off and heading back to my hotel.

65 posted on 10/14/2004 4:27:44 PM PDT by ChicagoHebrew
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Stay safe...


66 posted on 10/14/2004 4:27:47 PM PDT by msp2004
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To: dfwgator

Streamed over Real? No wonder it'll fail.

RealOne Player = horrible.


67 posted on 10/14/2004 4:28:24 PM PDT by Terpfen (Wanted: Laura Ingraham's leopard miniskirt picture. Links welcomed!)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
I was in La Paz back in 1991 and witnessed the same thing, they were using firecrackers.

It turned out the local communist party was having a demonstration about something or other. Freaked me out as it was my first day in country. Just ask some of the locals what’s going on. If they are not concerned I would not worry about it.

68 posted on 10/14/2004 4:28:33 PM PDT by usurper
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Whew, good.


69 posted on 10/14/2004 4:28:50 PM PDT by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Stay safe and keep us updated!


70 posted on 10/14/2004 4:28:56 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: ChicagoHebrew


Bandidos Yanqui
71 posted on 10/14/2004 4:28:59 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Joe Hadenuf; ChicagoHebrew
Hey man, what are you saying?? Didn't you see the Cafe scene with James Coburn in "The Great Escape?"

Chicago Hebrew, duck, take cover and get back home pronto!

72 posted on 10/14/2004 4:30:01 PM PDT by bd476
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To: ChicagoHebrew
To everyone, I think it's quieting down. There is still chanting, but no gunfire. No one in the cafe seems worried anymore (they were ten minutes ago)

Are they chanting, "Osama"?

In any event, quietly finish your burrito, and act bored.

73 posted on 10/14/2004 4:30:22 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: tet68

lol


74 posted on 10/14/2004 4:30:51 PM PDT by Clavain (Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
Possibly a democratic uprising?

From:
http://www.brazzil.com/2004/html/articles/aug04/p131aug04.htm Recently, President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva urged Bolivia to take the path to democracy, calling it the best instrument for economic and political recovery.

Last October, Bolivia went through a political crisis which resulted in the resignation of president Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada as a popular uprising raged throughout the country.

During a speech at a ceremony celebrating the signing of agreements with Bolivia, Lula declared that the decision by President Carlos Mesa (who substituted Sanchez de Lozada) to hold a referendum on the country's energy policy and municipal elections in December "will make it possible for Bolivia to discover what its population wants."

Lula went on to say that, "At this moment, when Bolivia gathers strength, it can count on the friendship of the government and people of Brazil. That is the message we sent Bolivia last year during its crisis, and that is the message we send now. That friendship also underlies these agreements we sign today."

Lula concluded by saying that Latin America needs a "Bolivia that is democratic, prosperous and united... a country based on the dreams of Bolivar who wanted borders to bring people together, not separate them," said the Brazilian President.

Carlos Mesa endorsed those words, saying that democracy was the only mechanism that would enable Bolivia to get back on track. "We want democracy to be the crucial issue in our future," he declared, adding that he still intends to convoke a Constitutional Assembly.

75 posted on 10/14/2004 4:31:30 PM PDT by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Bill raped, Monica swallowed, Hillary totally sucks.)
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To: Radix
What the heck is a civilized person doing in Bolivia?

I was almost stuck at La Paz. On a lay-over flight to Asuncion, I got out at LaPaz and had a beer and a smoke. I had no idea that I was at 11,000 ft. Got woozy and all happy until I saw a Bolivian soldier running towards me, waving his gun. "Senor! Senor!"

My plane was leaving, and I hadn't noticed. The crazy bastards ran out across the airfield, waving their arms to stop the plane, while another set pushed the stairs towards it. The plane stopped somewhere on the tarmac. I just kinda stumbled along, and climbed up to the plane. They gave me another drink once onboard....

76 posted on 10/14/2004 4:32:05 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Good luck. Stay safe. And if you feel the urge, pick a side and join in.


77 posted on 10/14/2004 4:32:34 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: ChicagoHebrew; Joe Hadenuf
Thanks for the update, CH. Joehadenuf, I guess you were right.

CH, if you hear shooting again, blanks or not, hightail it out of there unless you're in a PJ O'Rourke kinda mode and feel like writing a postscript to his "Holidays in Hell."

78 posted on 10/14/2004 4:33:41 PM PDT by bd476
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To: RUCKUS INC.
All of your south america capitals are belong to us...

Now stop that, this is series.

79 posted on 10/14/2004 4:33:44 PM PDT by pbear8 (Straighten up and don't scowl)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
From Bolivia:"Who are those guys?"
80 posted on 10/14/2004 4:34:28 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: cripplecreek

Are his hands really that far out of proportion or have you been hitting the Photoshop?


81 posted on 10/14/2004 4:34:30 PM PDT by aBootes (Whatever Cheney hit, it's flat now)
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To: nicollo

I think La Paz is the highest commercial airport with regular service. I can only imagine how that must have felt...passengers jets pressurize at that altitude.


82 posted on 10/14/2004 4:34:43 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: July 4th

I felt stupid... and happy!


83 posted on 10/14/2004 4:35:37 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Bolivia Congress authorizes trial for ex-president
14 Oct 2004 18:17:31 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Rene Villegas

LA PAZ, Bolivia, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Bolivia's Congress gave the Supreme Court the green light on Thursday to investigate and possibly sentence ex-President Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada over deaths during clashes between the army and protesters last year.

Sanchez de Lozada, a center-right leader now living in the United States, was forced out of office a year ago by the massive protests against his policies of opening up the economy of Bolivia, one of Latin America's poorest countries.

An estimated 67 people died and 200 were injured in protests by farmers, unemployed miners, and coca growers. The demonstrators also opposed a government natural gas export plan they said would benefit Bolivia's estranged neighbor Chile.

Demonstrators gathered on Thursday to celebrate outside Congress after both houses of Congress voted jointly to approve the trial. Of 130 deputies and 27 senators, 126 lawmakers voted in favor. Fifteen members of Sanchez de Lozada's cabinet will also go before the high court.

Thousands of other marchers were heading to La Paz to join demonstrations planned for Friday.

Sanchez de Lozada, a wealthy businessman, was president from 1993 to 1997, and was elected to a second term beginning in 2002.

He resigned a year ago after four weeks of violent protests that included miners throwing dynamite and soldiers shooting at demonstrators.

The charges against the ex-president, brought last year by Bolivia's former attorney general, are based on six complaints in Congress, one filed by a leftist lawmaker and indigenous leader who accused Sanchez de Lozada of genocide and economic damage to the state.

The matter now goes to an investigative phase in the criminal branch of the Supreme Court, where the judges will examine the evidence and decide whether to proceed with an indictment. If they do, the trial enters a penalty phase, and eight of 12 supreme court justices would have to agree with a sentence.

The only time Bolivia's Supreme Court has tried a former president was when former dictator Luis Garcia Mesa was sentenced to 30 years in jail for crimes including genocide. He is still in prison.

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84 posted on 10/14/2004 4:36:07 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Good luck.........stay safe.......prayers have been sent.

Sorry, but I have to ask. Have you already sent in an absentee ballet? I know, bad joke....again, stay safe and good luck.


85 posted on 10/14/2004 4:36:13 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: aBootes

I didn't do it.


86 posted on 10/14/2004 4:36:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Do not tell the Bolivian Govt you are the great grandson of Butch Cassidy!


87 posted on 10/14/2004 4:38:13 PM PDT by LaGrone
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Have they shut down the radio/telephone/tv networks? If so, you are probably experiencing a coup. If not it is probably a govt crackdown.


88 posted on 10/14/2004 4:38:52 PM PDT by max_rpf
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To: bd476

Chanting ?!?!?

Either deslyxic cows........Oooom vs Moooo or Guerilla Gregorian sect of monks that have their nickers in a bunch about the price of wool's my guess !

Stay safe !


89 posted on 10/14/2004 4:39:44 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: ChicagoHebrew
There is a nationwide cocalero march on LaPaz to protest the government's announcement last month that they would forcibly eradicate coca farming by 2008. There's already been one death and scores of injuries. The march is scheduled to reach LaPaz on the 18th, the anniversary of the overthrow last year of Lozada's elected government.

While all eyes are on mecca South America is our fire next time.

90 posted on 10/14/2004 4:40:57 PM PDT by wtc911 (all zee children have mush!)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

May the Lord bless you and keep you.........SAFE!


91 posted on 10/14/2004 4:42:37 PM PDT by Reborn
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To: zarf
You have given our freeper friend the very best advice!!!

And lose the chicago accent too!!!

92 posted on 10/14/2004 4:42:45 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

Cool. Free Republic does Bolivia!


93 posted on 10/14/2004 4:43:50 PM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: ChicagoHebrew

stay safe


94 posted on 10/14/2004 4:44:18 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: cripplecreek
LOL....

I hope Jimmuh doesn't come in a helicopter. 8-o
95 posted on 10/14/2004 4:45:23 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: RUCKUS INC.
Silly comment... Can you give a little background?

First, the Earth cooled
Then there were dinosaurs
They died out.
Then there was Bolivia

For more details consult your local history book.

96 posted on 10/14/2004 4:46:01 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
Possibly a democratic uprising?

Not likely, the organized pissed off group is the cocaleros who are marching on LaPaz to protest the government's plan to forcibly wipe out coca farming in three years.

Add the cocaine armies from Colombia who rely on Bolivia's coca and things are going to get very ugly.

97 posted on 10/14/2004 4:46:27 PM PDT by wtc911 (all zee children have mush!)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
Of all the gin joints in all the World...you HAD to pick that one!

Here's hoping the La Paz dispensers run out of ammo soon!

98 posted on 10/14/2004 4:48:07 PM PDT by O Neill (Swift Vote Republicans For Bush)
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To: ChicagoHebrew
"The streets are relatively quiet now, so I´ll be signing off and heading back to my hotel."

Keep your drapes closed and have a quiet night. They might just be getting primed on cerveza and sangria for tonight.

99 posted on 10/14/2004 4:50:26 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BunnySlippers
Cool. Free Republic does Bolivia!

FR is always an experience. You never know what's going to happen when you log on. Sometimes it's bunnies with pancakes, sometimes it's Bolivian revolutions.

They don't do Bolivian revolutions at DU.

Vive FR!

100 posted on 10/14/2004 4:50:39 PM PDT by Yardstick
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