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This Is Why Vetcon Villagers Lie For Kerry? (Kerry's Cousin Stuart Forbes)
October 15, 2004

Posted on 10/14/2004 9:47:11 PM PDT by notkerry

In the early 1990s, Kerry headed a Senate committee that was supposed to determine whatever became of American troops in the Vietnam War whose whereabouts were not recorded. Under his leadership, the panel concluded there was “no evidence” that any Americans left behind in Vietnam were still alive.

Shortly after Kerry declared to the world, “President Bush should reward Vietnam within a month for its increased cooperation in accounting for American MIAs.”

Hanoi then announced that it had awarded a fat contract to Boston real estate firm Colliers International, then headed by the senator’s cousin Stuart Forbes. Colliers International was awarded the exclusive real estate agent representing Vietnam.

The communist regime positioned the company to rake in tens of millions of dollars in future contracts to upgrade Vietnam’s ports, railroads and other infrastructure.

Coincidence? And was there really “no evidence” that American fighting men left behind in Vietnam were alive? Experts who have examined the issue ridicule the former or vehemently reject the latter.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: colliers; forbes; kerry; kerryisapos; kerryrecord; kerryshiite; nightline; powmia; pows; stuartforbes; vietnam
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1 posted on 10/14/2004 9:47:11 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: notkerry; risk; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Joy Angela; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl


At the time of JOHN KERRY's time in Vietnam. 34 years ago, the life expectancy of Vietnamese Males was just 30 years old.

How many of these Viet Cong Villagers were really witnesses to JOHN KERRY's military actions and how many of them are actually still alive today to be interviewed on America TV, I wonder..?

JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

...and of Freedom-Loving people everywhere.



2 posted on 10/14/2004 9:59:11 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965
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To: notkerry

Viet Nam at first denied the request to go to the village and then a few months later they changed their minds. Could it be that it took a few months of teaching the villagers how to respond? Could it be that abc was a party to this and knew what the Viet Nam government was doing? Maybe even providing the questions before they arrived so the Viet Namese government would know what questions so they could develop answers and then teach the villagers how to respond? The story of the other men who came with a camera and left. Koppel let that one get by him. He said they had to have a minder with them all the time. They mentioned nothing of a minder for the other two men. The Viet Namese government would have know who they were...who they talked with...what answers they were given.

3 posted on 10/14/2004 9:59:54 PM PDT by Trepz
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To: notkerry

Ted Koppel, and ABC viewers, you've been had!

4 posted on 10/14/2004 10:00:40 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: notkerry

Senate Select Committee Testimony & Depositions

Memos of John F. McCreary
April 27, 1992

Memorandum for:
Vice Chairman, Senate Select Committee on Prisoners of War and Missing in Action

From:John F. McCreary

Subject:Legal Misconduct and Possible Malpractice in the Select Committee

1. As a member of the Virginia State Bar, I am obliged by Disciplinary Rule DR-1-103(a) to report knowledge of misconduct by an attorney "to a tribunal or other authority empowered to investigate or act upon such violations." Under Rule IV, Paragraph 13, of the Rules for the integration of the Virginia State Bar, this obligation follows me as a member of the Bar, regardless of the location of my employment, for as long as I remain a member of the Virginia State Bar. Therefore, I am obliged, as a matter of law and under pain of discipline by the Virginia State Bar, to report to you my knowledge of misconduct and possible prima facie malpractice by attorneys on the Select Committee in ordering the destruction of Staff documents containing Staff intelligence findings on 9 April 1992 and in statements in meetings on 15 and 16 April to justify the destruction.

2. The attached Memoranda For the Record, one by myself and another by Mr. Jon D. Holstine, describe the relevant facts, which I summarize herein:

a. On 9 April 1992, the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, in response to a protest by other members of the Select Committee, told the Select Committee members that "all copies" would be destroyed. This statement was made in the presence of the undersigned and of the Staff Chief Counsel who offered no protest.

b. Later on 9 April 1992, the Staff Director, Frances Zwenig, an attorney, repeated and insured the execution of Senator Kerry's order for the destruction of the Staff intelligence briefing text. I personally delivered to Mr. Barry Valentine, the Security Manager for SRB-78, the original printed version of the intelligence briefing text. I also verified that the original was destroyed by shredding in the Office of Senate Security on 10 April 1992, along with 14 copies.

c. On 15 April 1992, the Staff Chief Counsel, J. William Codinha of Massachusetts, when advised by members if the Staff about their concerns over the possible criminal consequences of destroying documents, minimized the significance of the act of destruction; ridiculed the Staff members for expressing their concerns; and replied, in response to questions about the potential consequences, "Who's the injured party," and "How are they going to find out because its classified." Mr. Codinha repeatedly defended the destruction of the documents and gave no assurances or indications that any copies of the intelligence briefing text existed.

d. On 16 April, the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee, Senator John Kerry, stated that he gave the order to destroy "extraneous copies of the documents" and that no one objected. Moreover, he stated that the issue was "moot" because the original remained in the Office of Senate Security "all along."

e. I subsequently learned that the Staff Director had deposited a copy of the intelligence briefing text in the Office of Senate Security at 1307 on 16 April.

3. The foregoing facts establish potentially a prima facie violation of criminal law and a pattern of violations of legal ethics by attorneys in acts of commission and omission.

a. It is hornbook law that an attorney may not direct the commission of a crime. In this incident two attorneys, one by his own admission, ordered the destruction of documents, which could be violation of criminal law.

b. Neither the Staff Chief Counsel nor any member of the Select Committee made a protest or uttered words of caution against the destruction of documents, by admission of the Chairman, Senator Kerry. The Chief Counsel has an affirmative duty to advise the Staff about the legality of its actions, and, in fact, had earlier issued the general prohibition to the Staff against document destruction.

c. The Chief Counsel's statements during the 15 April meeting to discuss the document destruction showed no regard for the legality of the action and displayed to the Staff only a concern about getting caught. By his words and actions, he presented to the Staff investigators an interpretation of the confidentiality and security rules that the rules of the Select Committee may be used to cover-up potentially unethical or illegal activity.

d. The Staff Director's action in placing an unaccounted for copy of the intelligence briefing text in the Office of Senate Security on 16 April constitutes an act to cover-up the destruction. Throughout the 16 April meeting, all three attorneys persisted in stating that the document had been on file since 9 April. This is simply not true.

4. I believe that the foregoing facts establish a pattern of grave legal misconduct - possibly including orders to commit a crime, followed by acts to justify and then to cover-up that crime. Even absent criminal liability, the behavioral pattern of the attorneys involved plays fast and loose with the Canons of Legal Ethics and establishes that one or more of the attorneys on the Select Committee are unfit to practice law. I am obliged to recommend that this report be filed with the appropriate disciplinary authorities of the State Bars in which these attorneys are members.

John F. McCreary, Esquire

5 posted on 10/14/2004 10:05:27 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: spycatcher
Senator Kerry ordered POW evidence shredded for family profit.

Babylon Today ^ | 09/15/04 | Babylon Today

Posted on 09/16/2004 6:38:57 AM PDT by Captal de Buch

This Kerry guy is a animal.

From -

Kerry was selected to chair the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs in 1992 in order to investigate the reams of evidence of American prisoners not returned from Vietnam. "Senator Kerry had another agenda, however. He wanted to clear all the impediments for normalizing relations with Vietnam."

"Kerry refused to interview key witnesses and ordered committee staff to shred important intelligence documents.

The shredding stopped only when some staffers protested. The committee's final report, issued in January of 1993, officially closed the issue for Congress."

"Shortly after, Vietnam announced it had granted a large real estate contract to Colliers International, based in Boston. The multimillion-dollar contract was for a massive modernizing of Vietnam's ports, railroads, and other infrastructure. Colliers International's CEO, C. Stewart Forbes, is John Forbes Kerry's cousin."


6 posted on 10/14/2004 10:07:10 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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7 posted on 10/14/2004 10:07:27 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: spycatcher

ABC and Koppel weren't had. They were a participant to a fraud. More so than Dan Rather and CBS.

The Viet Namese Government at first refused and then several months later they agreed....Time for ABC to prepare a list of questions they'd ask and the Viet Namese to develop answers and teach the villagers how to respond.

Koppel said they had to have a minder with them at all times. When he discussed the other men who came, one with a camera, there was no mention of a minder with them. He said they did not know who the men were or where they went. But did know they were critical of Kerry.

Would the Viet Namese goverment allow someone else other than ABC into the area without knowing who they were and what questions they asked and where they went?

This was all too pat. All of the right answers. Always someone who remember the specifics of one battle after 30+ years. They remember exact locations. How many people can remember things on their own property 10 years ago. Memories fade. There was to me too many specifics and too little real journalims. It was a Kerry Whitewash. It was planned and executed between ABC and the Viet Namese. Why wouldn't they make Kerry out to be something he wasn't. To them he is a hero.

8 posted on 10/14/2004 10:08:53 PM PDT by Trepz
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To: spycatcher

Is everybody sure that Mark Twain isn't alive and well in Viet Nam? Is anyone fooled by this dog and pony show?

9 posted on 10/14/2004 10:09:05 PM PDT by Adrastus (Kerry lied while good men died.)
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To: notkerry
This is why Ive been saying that the Kerry / Soros cabal want to establish a "third way" global government, which is the modern day equivalent to a feudal society.

In their world, everything is for sale, corruption is rampant, and the serfs work for a privileged few.
10 posted on 10/14/2004 10:09:36 PM PDT by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: notkerry

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11 posted on 10/14/2004 10:10:51 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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Related to Nightline/VC .... ping

12 posted on 10/14/2004 10:13:51 PM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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Very interesting. Thanks for the ping ntnychik, I think Kerry is not only devious, he is evil!

13 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:03 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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14 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:04 PM PDT by Siobhan (+Pray the Divine Mercy Chaplet+)
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To: notkerry
Here's something Freeper nonkultur offered on another thread:

The guy who died in the battle's tombstone said H.S. 12.1.1969 That sure does not add up with February 28, 1969 the date of the battle.

Any thoughts?

15 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:17 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Trepz

To bolster your point, the Vietnamese became the world's experts in media manipulation and postmodern warfare propaganda. They knew exactly what buttons needed to be pushed for ABC to buy their previously non-existent version of events and for Kerry to be framed as the hero he is to them.

Vietnam and ABC used each other to perfection, except Swiftees and Freepers are too smart to be hoodwinked.

16 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:58 PM PDT by spycatcher
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17 posted on 10/14/2004 10:16:04 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: notkerry
Senator Kerry also prevented a vote on the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833), which would have made lifting trade restrictions contingent on Communist Vietnam restoring basic human rights. By stopping this measure from becoming law, Kerry protected Marxist Vietnam from pressure to free its slave society.

Through much manipulation and arm-twisting, Kerry persuaded his now-defunct committee to vote unanimously that no POWs existed in Vietnam. And with the disappearance of this and the proposed human rights legislation, Kerry gave Bill Clinton and the Democratic Party the pretext they needed to begin re-opening trade that could help keep the Marxist Vietnamese dictatorship afloat. Those given first place in line for such trade opportunities, of course, were the biggest contributors to Democrats such as Senator Kerry and Bill Clinton.

The year after his committee’s vote to give Communist Vietnam a clean bill of health, the strangest thing happened. In December 1992 Vietnam signed its first huge commercial deal worth at least $905 million to develop a deep-sea commercial port at Vung Tau to accommodate all the trade that was to come. It signed the deal with a company called Colliers International. At the time, the Chief Executive Officer of this company was C. Stewart Forbes. Name sound familiar? It should. He is Senator John F. Kerry’s cousin. What a coincidence!

Less widely noticed, when the Democratic Party decided to give Kerry a leg up towards its presidential nomination by holding its 2004 National Convention in Boston, certain big corporations rushed to pony up money for the Democratic event. One of the first of these rushing to fill Democratic coffers was Spaulding & Slye Colliers, the current corporate partnership involving Colliers International, which anted up $100,000.


18 posted on 10/15/2004 1:53:42 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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Take a look at these short video clips, especially the last one. You will walk away with a heavy heart.


19 posted on 10/15/2004 2:44:04 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: notkerry

With the post-Vietnam POW/MIA issue and the multiple secret Paris talks, the North Vietnamese have so much dirt on Kerry, that they can "persuade" him to do anything.

20 posted on 10/15/2004 2:48:57 AM PDT by igoramus987
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