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Dems Meant It When They Say ''By Whatever Means Necessary''(Free Republic Mentioned)
Chron Watch ^ | October 15,2004 | Issac Strahl

Posted on 10/15/2004 5:51:44 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

Nothing appears to be above exploitation. John Kerry even dedicated a speech he delivered on Monday to the late actor Christopher Reeve. Kerry said he knew the ''Superman'' actor for about 15 years through family and dedication to the same causes, and said Reeve left him a long voice-mail on Saturday thanking him for campaigning on the possibilities of a cure for conditions like his.

It had been originally reported that Reeve died on Sunday after slipping into a coma on Thursday following complications from treatment for a bed sore. After John Kerry's speech, reports of Reeve's death were changed to remove the reference to Thursday in order to make it possible for Reeve to call John Kerry and leave a long message for him on his answering machine on Saturday night. Evidently, Kerry didn't know about the ''coma'' part until after the speech, but his well-oiled damage-control team was already on it.

A blogger on Free Republic provided one example of the ''before and after'' media manipulation that kept John Kerry from having another ''Christmas in Cambodia'' moment like the ones that keep coming up every time he tries to exploit the dead.

(Excerpt) Read more at chronwatch.com ...


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John Kerry's Magic Cellphone http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1242521/posts?q=1&&page=201
1 posted on 10/15/2004 5:51:44 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1242521/posts?q=1&&page=201


2 posted on 10/15/2004 5:52:03 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40914


3 posted on 10/15/2004 5:55:43 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776
Sheesh. Is this for real? Reeve's last actions: "must...get...to...phone...must...call...John Kerry..."

What an a--h*le.

4 posted on 10/15/2004 5:56:59 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: conservativecorner

hey, here comes your 15 minutes of fame ping!


5 posted on 10/15/2004 5:58:12 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: AmericanMade1776

6 posted on 10/15/2004 5:59:23 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: mattdono; Buckhead; Jim Robinson

Hey dude, while conservativecorner posted the thread, I think the honor of documenting the discrepancy goes to you. Better give buckhead a call and see if there are any lessons-learned to be shared, 'cause you're GONNA BE FAMOUS!!!


7 posted on 10/15/2004 6:02:08 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: NonValueAdded; conservativecorner; Jim Robinson

Thanks for pinging Conservativecorner, maybe we should ping a few more.


8 posted on 10/15/2004 6:02:32 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: NonValueAdded

And the truth shall set you free!


9 posted on 10/15/2004 6:04:08 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: NonValueAdded
Link to the post mentioned in the article: here
10 posted on 10/15/2004 6:04:16 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: NonValueAdded; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; bentfeather; beachn4fun; Fawnn; ...

Pinging a few more Freepers, John Kerry caught in big time Whopper!


11 posted on 10/15/2004 6:04:56 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776

Send the links to Drudge and FOX.


12 posted on 10/15/2004 6:06:25 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: conservativecorner

What a self grandizing Liar John Kerry is!


13 posted on 10/15/2004 6:07:44 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: Clint N. Suhks

already sent it to Drudge a few minutes ago, he is probably still sleeping.


14 posted on 10/15/2004 6:08:19 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: SquirrelKing

Well skerry's own MOTHER didn't say I love you Son on her death bed. I guess he thinks all dying people think about politics over family on their death beds.


15 posted on 10/15/2004 6:09:16 AM PDT by marty60
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To: conservativecorner

Written by Isaac Strahl
Friday, October 15, 2004


Hal Lindsey has taken a hard look at the Kerry campaign, and he does not like what he sees: Disinformation. Voter fraud. Organized violence. Media manipulation. It seems that when Democrats vowed after losing the 2000 election (Yes, they did lose it, in spite of their efforts to steal it) that they would win in 2004 ''by whatever means necessary,'' they were not kidding.

Of course, those same tactics were used by a certain German to gain power back in the 1930s. His party, too, believed in ''whatever means necessary.'' Read excerpts from the column below. We have provided a link if you would like to read the entire article.
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=10391&catcode=11


16 posted on 10/15/2004 6:11:46 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: SquirrelKing
Sheesh. Is this for real? Reeve's last actions: "must...get...to...phone...must...call...John Kerry..."

I guess Kerry's mom wasted her breath with that "Integrity, integrity, integrity" speach on her deathbed too.
17 posted on 10/15/2004 6:14:08 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: AmericanMade1776

Anyone have a screen shot or a cache photo or a hardcopy that says he went into the coma on Thursday?


18 posted on 10/15/2004 6:15:58 AM PDT by jcb8199
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To: AmericanMade1776

Is it just me, or have the last 3 Democratic presidential nominees all been lying sociopaths? Each one worse then the last? And half the Republic is voting for these psychos?


19 posted on 10/15/2004 6:16:07 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: AmericanMade1776

Although I want to see Kerry defeated and Bush win with Every part of my being, this story does *not* add up.

Just look at the news article above! There is *no* mention of Thursday.

When I first heard this story, I rejoiced andthen checked hte news stories. Reeve had his attack and went into a coma on Saturday. THe news said so explicitly.

PLEASE, we can't win with an urban legend.

If I'm wrong, can anyone show me a *NEWS* link (not a blog) that even mentions Thursday????


20 posted on 10/15/2004 6:19:04 AM PDT by newberger (The amazing thing about communication is that it ever occurs at all!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

It's funny you should mention this because this is what I had to say yesterday concerning the 66 page plan book of the DNC:

To: IDRATHERNOT
How could the statement below included in the DNC Manual be misleading by Drudge? They are asking voters to fabricate lies in order to claim voter intimidation. This tactic was typical with the Hitlerites concerning the Jews in the late 1930'S until the conclusion of the war. Demonize your supposed enemy until your supporters are ready to do anything in order to put the fearless leader in charge. How can people be so blind to this corruption? TRULY AMAZING!!


2. If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a "pre-emptive strike" (particularly well-suited to states in which there techniques have been tried in the past).

50 posted on 10/14/2004 3:20:10 PM PDT by conservativecorner


21 posted on 10/15/2004 6:19:52 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: newberger

huh? Follow the links we've put up. Look at that screenshot in post #6. There *IS* mention of Thursday.


22 posted on 10/15/2004 6:21:45 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: jcb8199

Reeve, 52, went into a coma on Saturday when he suffered a heart attack during treatment for an infected pressure wound and died in Northern Westchester Hospital on Sunday afternoon without regaining consciousness, publicist Wesley Combs said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041011/people_nm/people_reeve_dc_9


23 posted on 10/15/2004 6:23:43 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: NonValueAdded
"There *IS* mention of Thursday"

NOT

24 posted on 10/15/2004 6:26:32 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river . . .)
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To: NonValueAdded

I hate to be the wet blanket, but all he did was catch kerry in a lie. Hasn't that been done to death?


25 posted on 10/15/2004 6:26:34 AM PDT by bad company (Global test? Damn I forgot to study.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I see no mention of thursday


26 posted on 10/15/2004 6:27:34 AM PDT by Crazieman (Islam. Religion of peace, and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: Kozak
I guess Kerry's mom wasted her breath with that "Integrity, integrity, integrity" speach on her deathbed too.Kerry: "Integrity, yes, yes - but what is your pin number?!"
27 posted on 10/15/2004 6:28:22 AM PDT by SquirrelKing ("I have to march because my mother couldn't have an abortion." - Maxine Waters (D-California)
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To: Dust in the Wind; Crazieman

You are correct, it *doesn't* have the word Thursday *now*.


28 posted on 10/15/2004 6:29:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: NonValueAdded
Look again, it's *NOT* in post 6!

What's more, if you follow the "John Kerry's Magic Cellphone link" you'l find this:

Oh really? WHO TV (Des Moines) October 11th, 2004 - According to sources close to the actor, Reeve died Sunday. The actor fell into a coma on Thursday after going into cardiac arrest at his New York home. It's true - Kerry will say ANYTHING to get elected...

Update: WHO Des Moines appears to be the only one reporting he went into a coma on Thursday. ABC, CNN, and others are reporting that he had a heart attack at his Pound Ridge, New York, home on Saturday during treatment for an infected bedsore wound. He fell into a coma and never regained consciousness. CNN puts it this way:

Kerry's cellphone is a little less magical, now it's just a bit suspect...

THIS IS AN URBAN LEGEND! I want it to be true but it's not.

29 posted on 10/15/2004 6:30:05 AM PDT by newberger (The amazing thing about communication is that it ever occurs at all!)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Hillarys descamisados in training for 2008
30 posted on 10/15/2004 6:30:40 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: newberger

My Eyes are playing tricks on me, because I read Thursday orginally too, and that is why I posted it from the other thread.


31 posted on 10/15/2004 6:36:03 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: NonValueAdded
FWIW

I am one that can not prove it, but, I distinctly remember when first reporting this, CNN saying Reeves had gone into a coma on Thursday. I was awake at an unusual hour and was hearing some of the earlier reports and reading the constant bottom blurb scrolling across the screen.

32 posted on 10/15/2004 6:36:45 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river . . .)
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To: jcb8199

When I posted it from the other thread it said Thursday, to the best of my Recollection. But no copy on harddrive.


33 posted on 10/15/2004 6:36:58 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: SquirrelKing
Sheesh. Is this for real? Reeve's last actions: "must...get...to...phone...must...call...John Kerry..."

LMAO...

Indeed! 'Mr. Reeves, would you like to call your wife and family?' 'No! Get me John Kerry on the line, NOW! ..."

ROFLMAO...

34 posted on 10/15/2004 6:38:48 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Dust in the Wind

This from the Troy Record, on Yahoo Search, but the article is not listed anymore:

Actor, Director and Activist Christopher Reeve Dies at Age 52
Troy Record - Oct 11 1:14 AM
BEDFORD, N.Y., Oct. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Christopher Reeve died suddenly at 5:30 p.m. yesterday of heart failure. He was 52 years old. On Saturday October 9, Reeve fell into a coma after going into cardiac arrest while at home. http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=%22christopher+reeve%22&ei=UTF-8&cop=mss&tab=5&pstart=1&fr=FP-tab-news-t-157&b=801

now if anyone has a written copy of this record, we have evidence


35 posted on 10/15/2004 6:41:17 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: newberger
Probably. I could swear I saw it say Thursday as did others on the thread. I guess the lesson learned is to not trust the MSM on news we like in the same manner that we don't trust it on the bad stuff. There is a before and after screen shot in the "magic cellphone" thread, but how can that be trusted? Maybe I need to read that thread about Derrida's obit again: Derrida’s Bluff.
36 posted on 10/15/2004 6:46:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Kerry: I wholeheartedly disagree with you beyond expression)
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To: NonValueAdded

Somewhere out there, there is written proof, that we saw thursday. Such Treachery by the mass media is unbelievable.


37 posted on 10/15/2004 6:50:42 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776; Old Sarge; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Arrowhead1952; Radix; HiJinx; Darksheare

Unbelieveable - Kerry has no shame and neither do his willing accomplices in the media.


38 posted on 10/15/2004 6:56:47 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: jcb8199
Click here and go to post #205. The comparison is there...screenshots.
39 posted on 10/15/2004 6:59:58 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: StarCMC

I am still trying to find proof of what my eyes saw. :-)


40 posted on 10/15/2004 7:00:54 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: All
See post #39 - link to screenshots posted on another thread. My apologies to the original poster - I forgot to check who it was, but it's from WHO-TV's website.
41 posted on 10/15/2004 7:02:01 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

See # 39 for a link.


42 posted on 10/15/2004 7:02:42 AM PDT by StarCMC (It's God's job to forgive Bin Laden; it's our job to arrange the meeting.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

CNN originally posted the Thursday part, a news station in Ohio (I think) also reported "Thursday". This was well hashed out on a previous thread.

My opinion Thursday, Saturday, Who cares??? Reeves went into a coma at the Latest on Saturday, and that's when Kerry said he got the call.

Which begs the question: Does a person, who is so severely ill have the ability or inclination to call a political candidate when death is so close at hand?

No brainer here, the answer is it does not pass the smell test, common sense test... NO WAY!


43 posted on 10/15/2004 7:09:02 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: StarCMC

One thing for sure....Christopher Reeves was in a Coma on Saturday.

This is John Kerry's statement:
Kerry says, "I was really blown away, because on Saturday, after the debate, I picked up my cell phone and I had a wonderful long message from Chris, who called me to thank me for talking about the possibilities of a cure."

http://www.wmtw.com/Global/story.asp?S=2417758&nav=7k6rRtNS


44 posted on 10/15/2004 7:11:05 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: StarCMC

One of the screen images states that he slipped into a coma on Thursday.


45 posted on 10/15/2004 7:12:38 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776

46 posted on 10/15/2004 7:13:29 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: Crazieman

Check post 46 ...now it says Thursday.


47 posted on 10/15/2004 7:15:28 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: jcb8199

I saved a screen shot to my documents. Can anyone help me get it from my docs to the web? I have no idea how to do this.


48 posted on 10/15/2004 7:15:35 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: AmericanMade1776

bttt


49 posted on 10/15/2004 7:16:00 AM PDT by timestax
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To: AmericanMade1776

I'm not seeing any stories AT ALL that mention Thursday. This includes China and the UK. Either the original mention of Thursday was just an "oops", or Christopher Reeve's publicist is the one changing the days; he's the one all the stories quote for the Saturday date.


50 posted on 10/15/2004 7:22:08 AM PDT by TChris (New pajamahadeen operative)
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