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Terror alert issued for school bus drivers
The Payson Roundup ^ | Friday Oct. 15 | Max Foster

Posted on 10/16/2004 12:38:29 PM PDT by winodog

Department of Public Safety authorities have put school bus drivers from around the state on a heightened state of alert regarding the possibility of terrorist activity, including those in Payson, Pine and Tonto Basin.

State authorities have asked all school bus drivers to be alert for any possible terrorist activity in the next six weeks.

A Sept. 28 information bulletin from DPS Student Transportation Supervisor Vicki Barnett to PUSD Director of Support Operations Joe Martin, directed bus drivers to "pay particular attention to any unusual activity around school buses; to unusual vehicles; to vehicles repeatedly seen in the vicinity; and, to any vehicles or individuals in unauthorized locations."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arizona; education; napalminthemorning; schools; targets; terror; wot
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I searched for this and did not get a hit but I am suprised it has not made more noise.
1 posted on 10/16/2004 12:38:29 PM PDT by winodog
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To: winodog

winodog, could you tell us please which state this is.


2 posted on 10/16/2004 12:42:09 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: winodog

"He did say, however, that FBI and Homeland Security officers have served search warrants around the country on suspected terrorists and found school bus route schedules and information on public school systems."


That's unsettling. This needs to get out.


3 posted on 10/16/2004 12:42:37 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: kitkat

Arizona. Its in the keywords and the link gives you the complete article.


4 posted on 10/16/2004 12:43:41 PM PDT by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: kitkat

i think the article said Arizona. this article is well worth reading. if the information near the end is correct, it is very ominous.
does anyone know if the part about homeland security agents finding school bus routes in the possession of terror suspects in the US is true or not?
(and i am not referring the info found in iraq.)


5 posted on 10/16/2004 12:47:13 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: winodog

Someone crippled a lot of school buses in Charlotte NC a few weeks ago, presumeably a school prank. It was right after the Beslan massacre, but I never heard anyone discussing how vulnerable the buses would be to bombs if a kid can get in and disable a large number of these things.


6 posted on 10/16/2004 12:47:34 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: winodog

About a month ago, I was in a local shopping center in Ohio where our school district parks their buses during the daytime hours until PM pickup. There were about twenty-five buses. I got to thinking about that and thought it very reckless and irresponsible so I called the school district and complained. The receptionist on the phone said she would relay it to the superintendent. This past week I checked it out again and sure enough, the buses were sitting there with the bus doors still open and unattended.


7 posted on 10/16/2004 12:48:53 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: SuziQ
State authorities have asked all school bus drivers to be alert for any possible terrorist activity in the next six weeks.

It's just a matter of time...

8 posted on 10/16/2004 12:49:20 PM PDT by 2Jedismom (All I want is a pair of red Chuck Taylors, a classic air-cooled Beetle and a poodle. ASG)
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To: winodog

Won't make much noise in the media because it would remind people that we are at war with terrorists. Because Bush is aggressive against terrorism, it would push people towards supporting Bush. That would be counter to the media's agenda-President Kerry.


9 posted on 10/16/2004 12:53:26 PM PDT by hansel
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To: conservativepoet

More than a year ago I contacted the DHS and warned them about this very possibility. I believe that there is a very real possibility that terrorists could target school buses in various cities and towns around the nation.

This would not only cause harm to a large number of children, it would also deal a serious blow to our economy by keeping working parents of school age children at home because of the fear of more strikes.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 1:00:25 PM PDT by jpw01 (Freep the world!)
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To: 2Jedismom

Sadly, you're so right, 2J.


11 posted on 10/16/2004 1:00:34 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: hansel

Not to take away anything from the seriousness of this, but, I don't know, I mean, how hard is it to figure out a school bus route?

A little before 8 am, they all start heading towards the school, right? And they probably follow about the same path back at 2, or 245.

I mean if the terrorists can't figure it out without a map, maybe we're ok on this one.


12 posted on 10/16/2004 1:02:58 PM PDT by B0wman
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To: winodog
Warning! Graphic Image

I regret posting this, I hate this picture.

But this is the reality of the world we live in now.

If it happens here there will be no "40 days of mourning" before justice is returned.



13 posted on 10/16/2004 1:04:58 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: winodog

These monsters start going after our children and they will have called down the thunder -- it will be open season, no bag limit.


14 posted on 10/16/2004 1:05:47 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: winodog

This alert should probably be going out to every state and school district in the union.


15 posted on 10/16/2004 1:08:28 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Toespi

Send your super a copy of this news report. I am sending one to mine.


16 posted on 10/16/2004 1:12:54 PM PDT by Samwise (It must be scary to be trapped in John Kerry's mind. No wonder he's nuts.)
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To: Toespi

This has been a concern of mine since 9-11. In my community I've noticed at heightened times of alert, if there is a bus convoy (maybe three to five busses), you will see a sheriff's escort. Have seen that a couple times.

Had a conversation with a bus driver recently. They say they're aware of security, but since most are ladies, ages 50-60, usually (in my area) I'm not sure there'd be any way to defend against a problem. Face it. Soft targets are the reason we have to take the war on terror to THEM.

Bush knows that. Kerry...well, it's all a nuisance for him.

Hopefully security moms will come through Nov. 2.


17 posted on 10/16/2004 1:13:32 PM PDT by campfollower (9 out of ten terrorists endorse John Kerry for Prez.)
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To: B0wman
I mean if the terrorists can't figure it out without a map, maybe we're ok on this one.

Actually, the maps make me more concerned. Simultaneous attacks? How close to what buildings? It's hard to look into the mind of evil.

18 posted on 10/16/2004 1:15:25 PM PDT by Samwise (It must be scary to be trapped in John Kerry's mind. No wonder he's nuts.)
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To: winodog
Oct. 13 Report: Chechens entered U.S. via Mexico

A report that 25 Chechen rebels linked to Islamic terrorists entered the United States illegally via Mexico is under investigation, the Washington Times said.

Security officials told the newspaper an intelligence report had been forwarded to the government saying the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor.

19 posted on 10/16/2004 1:19:57 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: Samwise

Simultaneous attacks, with explosive laden busses driven into the school yards. How hard is it to buy a used school bus? Or even to steal one? We can't provide police escorts for every bus in each school district, can we?


20 posted on 10/16/2004 1:22:02 PM PDT by jpw01 (Freep the world!)
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To: winodog
Gee, I hope everyone's keeping a close eye on those nefarious homeschoolers! (sarcasm obvious)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223057/posts

21 posted on 10/16/2004 1:35:22 PM PDT by Damocles ("This young century will be Liberty's century" - President Bush)
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To: winodog; Calpernia; StillProud2BeFree; Velveeta; Revel; DAVEY CROCKETT; Alabama MOM; lacylu; ...

There is much to think about in this thread.


22 posted on 10/16/2004 1:58:58 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: mdittmar

One thing that scares me is how close this is to the border. If a illegal crosses the border and creates a minor attack or a failed attack with children involved before the election, kerry and the MSM will blame the President. That may be all it takes to tip the scales and give us President Kerry.

The muslim terrorists know this and are more then willing to do anything to see a President Kerry. It worked for them in Spain and it would not take anything major for the MSM to paint President Bush as a failure on border security. Lord forbid any children actually get hurt in the week before the election. IMHO we would have a President who is a appeaser and would kiss muslim butt while we are at war with them.


23 posted on 10/16/2004 2:00:29 PM PDT by winodog (We need to water the liberty tree)
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To: winodog

Not done very often but I like to see the location in the title. It helps to see which topics to click on. Particularly if the location is out of the US.

For example: Terror Alert Issued for Bus Drivers [AZ]


24 posted on 10/16/2004 2:02:48 PM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: winodog

I am a public school teacher and I can tell you firsthand how easy it would be to pose as a school bus driver. First of all, our drivers don't even wear uniforms most of the time. Also, they call in sick alot, so the bus company always sends replacement drivers. If we saw someone different, we probably wouldn't think twice. Also, with the circular drive in front of the school, you could just pack the bus with explosives, drive right up to the front door and keep on going. You would kill 1000+ people in my school alone. It is a frightening thought,and no one in the MSM seems to be paying much attention to this issue.


25 posted on 10/16/2004 2:08:49 PM PDT by timetogo
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To: Peach; Mo1

danged nuisance ping


26 posted on 10/16/2004 2:30:35 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John F. Kerry. Wrong war? WRONG MAN!!)
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To: timetogo

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I contacted the DHS over a year ago about this scenario. I have no idea what measures have been taken to address this issue, if any.

If, however, I were a terrorist and wanted to strike fear into the heartland, I know I could do so without a lot of effort.

The feds cannot do everything, though. The only insurance against this sort of attack is vigilance on the part of ordinary citizens. We have to keep our eyes open for people watching school busses and other areas where our kids congregate.


27 posted on 10/16/2004 2:39:33 PM PDT by jpw01 (Freep the world!)
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To: kitkat

Just an hour's drive from my house. Dunno how legit this threat is, but I've said since 9/12 that the next terrorist hit will be in the heartland.


28 posted on 10/16/2004 2:49:08 PM PDT by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Crust ... Anti-Hillary)
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To: campfollower
In my community I've noticed at heightened times of alert, if there is a bus convoy (maybe three to five busses), you will see a sheriff's escort

How effective do you really think this is?

29 posted on 10/16/2004 2:52:56 PM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: winodog
FBI and Homeland Security officers have served search warrants around the country on suspected terrorists and found school bus route schedules and information on public school systems.


coupled with the terrorist in Iraq that had a CD on him with the floorplans and security methods of many of our schools - it sounds ominous - Children seem to be their new victims of choice.
Long haul truckers are being trained to be eyes on the road...
I used to drive and was in management of buses for private schools in California - we had high risk for abduction kids - for ex" I frove Clint Eastward's son and Paul Anka's daughters. WE were trained in such security methods as described here.
We need to start training "Citizen Eyes" in all walks of life across this country.
Not only would it give us much more secret but intimidate the terrorists just knowing there were eyes everywhere....
How do we get this going?
30 posted on 10/16/2004 3:01:09 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ('CITIZEN EYES')
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Hello,

Well, I am officially freaked out. What can we do? I would like to contact my son's principal and superintendent, but would like to offer suggestions on how to avert this threat. It is my opinion that (at least here), there is a belief that since we are in the Midwest, the terrorists would stick out like a sore thumb. That is semi true, EXCEPT if we are talking about Muslim Terrorists that do not look Middle-Eastern.

Let's try to come up with sensible ideas that can be incorporated into our school systems. Ideas?

Glad to be here, (despite the subject), MOgirl
31 posted on 10/16/2004 3:18:25 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: maine-iac7
Hello,

Well, I am officially freaked out. What can we do? I would like to contact my son's principal and superintendent, but would like to offer suggestions on how to avert this threat. It is my opinion that (at least here), there is a belief that since we are in the Midwest, the terrorists would stick out like a sore thumb. That is semi true, EXCEPT if we are talking about Muslim Terrorists that do not look Middle-Eastern.

Let's try to come up with sensible ideas that can be incorporated into our school systems. Ideas?

Glad to be here, (despite the subject), MOgirl
32 posted on 10/16/2004 3:18:26 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: Toespi

Scream bloody murder to the police, the FBI, Homeland Security; any reliable media outlets and a letter to the editor. Copy this article and include it.

Send copies of this article to parents you know and invite them to Scream.

You could, I suppose, notify the supt's office again and add that in 24 hours, your warning notices will be going to both a wider and a higher set of offices. And include this article linked to above.

Not that this would help but I'd personally be very tempted to ask the Supt when he last had a brain scan.

I think I'd also include Beslan articles.

If he's elected, one might note that. If he's appointed, send the same stuff to the idiot that appointed him.

I'd also be tempted to ask:

"Which of the following words is beyond your vocabulary:

"TERRORIST," "PLANS," "SCHOOL," "CHILDREN?"

If all that didn't work, I think I'd get a vehicle with wide sides like a van or truck and make huge signs for each side and park it near the parked busses--something like:

"UNATTENDED SCHOOL BUSSES AWAITING TERRORIST HIJACKING AND BOMB RIGGING. THANK YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL SUPT."

OR

"UNATTENDED SACRIFICIAL VEHICLES--AWAITING 1) YOUR CHILDREN; 2) TERRORISTS AND 3) THEIR SUICIDE BOMBS. COURTESY YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL SUPT."

This is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo OUTRAGEOUS.

I might even hand out fliers at my kids' schools.

If nothing changed, I'd withdraw my kids from school.


33 posted on 10/16/2004 3:19:58 PM PDT by Quix (PRAYERS 4 PRES, FAMILY, ADVISORS N OUR REPUBLIC IN OCT MAY BE VITALLY CRUCIAL)
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To: mewzilla
This alert should probably be going out to every state and school district in the union.


As a former bus driver in Mass and Calif - I can tell you just talking to your school districts is spitting in the wind.
You have to put teeth into it. 1. Print out this story (valid backup) take it to your school BOARD - attach a cover letter that gives your advice on establishing safety awareness and training. THEN tell them, and have it in writing in your cover letter, that if they do not take the steps and, God forbid, something happens. then not only the district will will be held accountable but each and everyone of them will be named as being forewarned - but negligent.
School boards have an elitist tendency that shrugs off the parents and other tax paying citizens. Your opinions don't really matter. BUT, they care about themselves and if they can envision public accountability - they may be motivated to act - even if only halfheartedly. But if they even do that then the cat will be out of the bag and parents and others will take up the banner
2. Take the very same thing to your local papers with the same cover letters and warnigs of responsibility. 3. Get an url to the Beslan photos and put in a letter to the editor with the above information. We need "Citizen Eyes" out there. This is a huge country. EVERYone must be on guard. (Long haul truckers are being trianed to be eyes on the road. WE must become eyes on the schools and buses.) I have nightmares thinking about it, but there seems to be little doubt that our kids are in the cross hairs - for what other purpose would they have this information on our schools and buses?
And Beslan showed they are barbaric enough to do it.
Oprah had all 200+ photos of the Beslan massacre on at one time. It was not pretty. But everyone should look at them and get it through their complacent, naive brains that these barbarians WILL do this. They want a Pres. Kerry that will allow them to once again have the room and peace to regroup...like in pre-9/11. They WANT to thought of only as a "nuisance" like before, like Kerry and his wife think.
NOW is the time to start making a very LOUD noise.
WE are the ones who must spearhead the defense - BEFORE we have to suffer the consequences.
NOW,
34 posted on 10/16/2004 3:24:44 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Our kids are n the crosshairs)
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To: winodog

great...my daughter rides a school bus, we're in Phoenix and because I'm an overprotective mom she's most likely going to be driven for awhile.

I'll share this with the neighbors.


35 posted on 10/16/2004 3:26:45 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: jpw01

How hard is it to buy a used school bus? Or even to steal one? We can't provide police escorts for every bus in each school district, can we
*****888
it's even easier to strap a bomb underneath in the dark of night -


36 posted on 10/16/2004 3:26:49 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Our kids are n the crosshairs)
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To: maine-iac7
There is absoloutly nothing to stop someone from going to where buses are parked virtually anywhere. Most of the time all there is keeping people away is a barbed wire fence at best. Without giving anyone any ideas, what could those killers do with a bunch of parked school buses on a school night? Imagine if it was done in multiple locations to multiple buses. Would make 911 seem like a petty bank hiest, and thats hard to imagine, I'm sad at the thought of it.
37 posted on 10/16/2004 3:28:26 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: kitkat

The Payson, Pine, Tonto area is up near the Mogollon (MO GEE YON) Rim. It's forrest area. When you hear about Arizona wildfires, this is one of the areas that they often talk about(east of Payson to Show Low was where the big fires were two years ago. My kids go to church camp up near Payson every summer.

It is more "rural" and spread out. Cooler weather up there, not like down here in the desert.


38 posted on 10/16/2004 3:31:22 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: maine-iac7
an addendum to my post #34 -

Start using a buzz word - People need to identify with a name for a movement;;;
I coined the phrase "Citizen Eyes"

feel free to use it.

Also, if we are untied and using the buzz word "Citizen Eyes" the press is more likely to pick up on it, realizing it's not just some little neighborhood thing
39 posted on 10/16/2004 3:36:15 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Our kids are n the crosshairs)
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To: KoRn

There is absoloutly nothing to stop someone from going to where buses are parked virtually anywhere. Most of the time all there is keeping people away is a barbed wire fence at best.


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exactly - and I don't think it would be out of line to demand that the schools - and/or maybe parents? - form "guard duty" watches, in shifts, at least until after the elections...this is NOT an alarmist proposal. This is reality.
These barbarians mean business - and our kids are their new target


40 posted on 10/16/2004 3:40:16 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Our kids are n the crosshairs)
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To: winodog

I give up. What state?


41 posted on 10/16/2004 3:41:17 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Gees, killing children is very cowardly and lowest of the low. Yes, it will be open season on them and their supporters and sympathizers, we know who they are.


42 posted on 10/16/2004 3:48:55 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: maine-iac7
Watches are a good idea, but in a free society(that we all love and thrive in) you can't prevent mass death at the hands of terrorists if they are among us. Our society is simply a target rich environment, from schools to places of business. The only way to even have a chance against them is to lock down the border, and I mean lock it down.... millitary and mine fields. After locking them out you have to find the ones who are here. Then last but not least you have to find them where they are and where they come from and send them to their next life. Right now we are only doing 1.5 of those 3 things. Anything less than 3 out of 3 will bring another attack.
43 posted on 10/16/2004 3:51:04 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: jpw01

I just love it when people post a simple plan like yours on the internet to tell the terrorists exactly how to terrorize us and hurt us economically at the same time. It makes their jobs so much easier when they don't have to try to figure out the American psyche and figure out for themselves what might hurt us the most. So thanks for posting that.


44 posted on 10/16/2004 3:53:08 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (NEVER FORGET. THE THREAT IS REAL AND PRESENT.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Agreed.

If it does happen here, the coward bastards had better pray to Allah they fall into government hands, not citizens'.
45 posted on 10/16/2004 3:56:15 PM PDT by Bars4Bill
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To: sweetliberty

Arizona


46 posted on 10/16/2004 3:56:54 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: BagCamAddict
Even though there may be a point with what you are saying, do you honestly thing if someone can sit here on a board and think of such things the terrists can't? Were the Japanese WWII pilots to blame for 911? I dont mean to flame.
47 posted on 10/16/2004 3:57:35 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: winodog

"According to Lockhart, the letter is partly in response to an advisory federal authorities sent to attorneys general throughout the United States regarding the possibility of terrorist activity in the next six weeks -- "the magnitude of the 9/11 attack," he said."


48 posted on 10/16/2004 3:58:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: KoRn

LOL I'm beginning to spell how the prez talks ;-)


49 posted on 10/16/2004 3:59:05 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: KoRn

The "post reply" page says "Loose lips sink ships" for a reason. Don't shoot the messenger.

Sure terrorists can think up plans. But it's harder to get inside the psyche of Americans. I simply don't want anyone doing anything to assist them with that process. The longer the terrorists focus on our financial institutions and "symbols" of America (Statue of Liberty, etc.), the longer they stay away from our kids.

Or would you rather see on the evening news every night, from Dan Rather: "As long as the terrorists stay away from our kids, I agree with Senator Kerry that it's just a nuisance. But if they start hurting our kids, then I might start taking them seriously."


50 posted on 10/16/2004 4:09:01 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (NEVER FORGET. THE THREAT IS REAL AND PRESENT.)
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