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Posted on 10/16/2004 12:38:29 PM PDT by winodog
Department of Public Safety authorities have put school bus drivers from around the state on a heightened state of alert regarding the possibility of terrorist activity, including those in Payson, Pine and Tonto Basin.
State authorities have asked all school bus drivers to be alert for any possible terrorist activity in the next six weeks.
A Sept. 28 information bulletin from DPS Student Transportation Supervisor Vicki Barnett to PUSD Director of Support Operations Joe Martin, directed bus drivers to "pay particular attention to any unusual activity around school buses; to unusual vehicles; to vehicles repeatedly seen in the vicinity; and, to any vehicles or individuals in unauthorized locations."
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winodog, could you tell us please which state this is.
"He did say, however, that FBI and Homeland Security officers have served search warrants around the country on suspected terrorists and found school bus route schedules and information on public school systems."
That's unsettling. This needs to get out.
Arizona. Its in the keywords and the link gives you the complete article.
i think the article said Arizona. this article is well worth reading. if the information near the end is correct, it is very ominous.
does anyone know if the part about homeland security agents finding school bus routes in the possession of terror suspects in the US is true or not?
(and i am not referring the info found in iraq.)
Someone crippled a lot of school buses in Charlotte NC a few weeks ago, presumeably a school prank. It was right after the Beslan massacre, but I never heard anyone discussing how vulnerable the buses would be to bombs if a kid can get in and disable a large number of these things.
About a month ago, I was in a local shopping center in Ohio where our school district parks their buses during the daytime hours until PM pickup. There were about twenty-five buses. I got to thinking about that and thought it very reckless and irresponsible so I called the school district and complained. The receptionist on the phone said she would relay it to the superintendent. This past week I checked it out again and sure enough, the buses were sitting there with the bus doors still open and unattended.
It's just a matter of time...
Won't make much noise in the media because it would remind people that we are at war with terrorists. Because Bush is aggressive against terrorism, it would push people towards supporting Bush. That would be counter to the media's agenda-President Kerry.
More than a year ago I contacted the DHS and warned them about this very possibility. I believe that there is a very real possibility that terrorists could target school buses in various cities and towns around the nation.
This would not only cause harm to a large number of children, it would also deal a serious blow to our economy by keeping working parents of school age children at home because of the fear of more strikes.
Sadly, you're so right, 2J.
Not to take away anything from the seriousness of this, but, I don't know, I mean, how hard is it to figure out a school bus route?
A little before 8 am, they all start heading towards the school, right? And they probably follow about the same path back at 2, or 245.
I mean if the terrorists can't figure it out without a map, maybe we're ok on this one.
I regret posting this, I hate this picture.
But this is the reality of the world we live in now.
If it happens here there will be no "40 days of mourning" before justice is returned.
These monsters start going after our children and they will have called down the thunder -- it will be open season, no bag limit.
This alert should probably be going out to every state and school district in the union.
Send your super a copy of this news report. I am sending one to mine.
This has been a concern of mine since 9-11. In my community I've noticed at heightened times of alert, if there is a bus convoy (maybe three to five busses), you will see a sheriff's escort. Have seen that a couple times.
Had a conversation with a bus driver recently. They say they're aware of security, but since most are ladies, ages 50-60, usually (in my area) I'm not sure there'd be any way to defend against a problem. Face it. Soft targets are the reason we have to take the war on terror to THEM.
Bush knows that. Kerry...well, it's all a nuisance for him.
Hopefully security moms will come through Nov. 2.
Actually, the maps make me more concerned. Simultaneous attacks? How close to what buildings? It's hard to look into the mind of evil.
A report that 25 Chechen rebels linked to Islamic terrorists entered the United States illegally via Mexico is under investigation, the Washington Times said.
Security officials told the newspaper an intelligence report had been forwarded to the government saying the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona that is difficult for U.S. border security agents to monitor.
Simultaneous attacks, with explosive laden busses driven into the school yards. How hard is it to buy a used school bus? Or even to steal one? We can't provide police escorts for every bus in each school district, can we?
There is much to think about in this thread.
One thing that scares me is how close this is to the border. If a illegal crosses the border and creates a minor attack or a failed attack with children involved before the election, kerry and the MSM will blame the President. That may be all it takes to tip the scales and give us President Kerry.
The muslim terrorists know this and are more then willing to do anything to see a President Kerry. It worked for them in Spain and it would not take anything major for the MSM to paint President Bush as a failure on border security. Lord forbid any children actually get hurt in the week before the election. IMHO we would have a President who is a appeaser and would kiss muslim butt while we are at war with them.
Not done very often but I like to see the location in the title. It helps to see which topics to click on. Particularly if the location is out of the US.
For example: Terror Alert Issued for Bus Drivers [AZ]
I am a public school teacher and I can tell you firsthand how easy it would be to pose as a school bus driver. First of all, our drivers don't even wear uniforms most of the time. Also, they call in sick alot, so the bus company always sends replacement drivers. If we saw someone different, we probably wouldn't think twice. Also, with the circular drive in front of the school, you could just pack the bus with explosives, drive right up to the front door and keep on going. You would kill 1000+ people in my school alone. It is a frightening thought,and no one in the MSM seems to be paying much attention to this issue.
danged nuisance ping
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I contacted the DHS over a year ago about this scenario. I have no idea what measures have been taken to address this issue, if any.
If, however, I were a terrorist and wanted to strike fear into the heartland, I know I could do so without a lot of effort.
The feds cannot do everything, though. The only insurance against this sort of attack is vigilance on the part of ordinary citizens. We have to keep our eyes open for people watching school busses and other areas where our kids congregate.
Just an hour's drive from my house. Dunno how legit this threat is, but I've said since 9/12 that the next terrorist hit will be in the heartland.
How effective do you really think this is?
Scream bloody murder to the police, the FBI, Homeland Security; any reliable media outlets and a letter to the editor. Copy this article and include it.
Send copies of this article to parents you know and invite them to Scream.
You could, I suppose, notify the supt's office again and add that in 24 hours, your warning notices will be going to both a wider and a higher set of offices. And include this article linked to above.
Not that this would help but I'd personally be very tempted to ask the Supt when he last had a brain scan.
I think I'd also include Beslan articles.
If he's elected, one might note that. If he's appointed, send the same stuff to the idiot that appointed him.
I'd also be tempted to ask:
"Which of the following words is beyond your vocabulary:
"TERRORIST," "PLANS," "SCHOOL," "CHILDREN?"
If all that didn't work, I think I'd get a vehicle with wide sides like a van or truck and make huge signs for each side and park it near the parked busses--something like:
"UNATTENDED SCHOOL BUSSES AWAITING TERRORIST HIJACKING AND BOMB RIGGING. THANK YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL SUPT."
"UNATTENDED SACRIFICIAL VEHICLES--AWAITING 1) YOUR CHILDREN; 2) TERRORISTS AND 3) THEIR SUICIDE BOMBS. COURTESY YOUR LOCAL SCHOOL SUPT."
This is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo OUTRAGEOUS.
I might even hand out fliers at my kids' schools.
If nothing changed, I'd withdraw my kids from school.
great...my daughter rides a school bus, we're in Phoenix and because I'm an overprotective mom she's most likely going to be driven for awhile.
I'll share this with the neighbors.
How hard is it to buy a used school bus? Or even to steal one? We can't provide police escorts for every bus in each school district, can we
it's even easier to strap a bomb underneath in the dark of night -
The Payson, Pine, Tonto area is up near the Mogollon (MO GEE YON) Rim. It's forrest area. When you hear about Arizona wildfires, this is one of the areas that they often talk about(east of Payson to Show Low was where the big fires were two years ago. My kids go to church camp up near Payson every summer.
It is more "rural" and spread out. Cooler weather up there, not like down here in the desert.
There is absoloutly nothing to stop someone from going to where buses are parked virtually anywhere. Most of the time all there is keeping people away is a barbed wire fence at best.
I give up. What state?
Gees, killing children is very cowardly and lowest of the low. Yes, it will be open season on them and their supporters and sympathizers, we know who they are.
I just love it when people post a simple plan like yours on the internet to tell the terrorists exactly how to terrorize us and hurt us economically at the same time. It makes their jobs so much easier when they don't have to try to figure out the American psyche and figure out for themselves what might hurt us the most. So thanks for posting that.
"According to Lockhart, the letter is partly in response to an advisory federal authorities sent to attorneys general throughout the United States regarding the possibility of terrorist activity in the next six weeks -- "the magnitude of the 9/11 attack," he said."
LOL I'm beginning to spell how the prez talks ;-)
The "post reply" page says "Loose lips sink ships" for a reason. Don't shoot the messenger.
Sure terrorists can think up plans. But it's harder to get inside the psyche of Americans. I simply don't want anyone doing anything to assist them with that process. The longer the terrorists focus on our financial institutions and "symbols" of America (Statue of Liberty, etc.), the longer they stay away from our kids.
Or would you rather see on the evening news every night, from Dan Rather: "As long as the terrorists stay away from our kids, I agree with Senator Kerry that it's just a nuisance. But if they start hurting our kids, then I might start taking them seriously."