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Kerry win ‘would not change German position'
Financial Times ^ | October 14, 2004 | Hugh Williamson and Wolfgang Proissl

Posted on 10/16/2004 2:50:17 PM PDT by AKSurprise

Advisers to John Kerry, the US presidential challenger, have accepted that Germany would maintain its refusal to supply troops to Iraq even should the Democrats win next month's elections, senior German officials said on Thursday.

Bernd Mützelburg, Chancellor Gerhard Schröder's chief foreign policy adviser, met Mr Kerry's advisers in Washington last month and urged them, if Mr Kerry won, not to ask Berlin to end its refusal to send troops to Iraq. Such a request would be denied. “Please don't ask this question,” was Mr Mützelburg's message, officials said, adding that this was accepted by Mr Kerry's advisers.

Mr Mützelburg, who was also in contact with the White House, suggested to the Kerry camp that US-German co-operation on Iraq should focus on “common interests”, rather than divisive issues.

If Mr Bush was re-elected, Berlin did not expect new pressure to deploy troops, officials said. Mr Kerry has said that, if president, he would hold an international conference on Iraq, drawing in opponents of the war such as Germany.

The rare public disclosure of the behind-the-scenes diplomatic work of one of Mr Schröder's top aides appeared part of a determined effort by the German government to quash suggestions that Berlin had changed its stance of refusing to send troops to Iraq.

Doubts were raised on Wednesday when Peter Struck, defence minister, told the FT that Germany could deploy troops to Iraq if conditions there changed. Mr Schröder then denied that Germany was softening its stance on Iraq following discussion in cabinet and a phone call to Mr Struck. Colin Powell, US secretary of state, called Joschka Fischer, German foreign minister, on Wednesday to clarify the issue.

The German government's swift action reflected the sensitivity of the Iraq issue within the ruling coalition, analysts said. Mr Schröder's re-election in 2002 was based partly on his stance against the US-led invasion of Iraq. This position remains a central pillar for both his Social Democrats and, in particular, for the Greens, the smaller coalition partner.

Peter Lösche, politics professor at Göttingen University, said the opposition to the Iraq war and the refusal to deploy troops there “is the main issue that holds the coalition together. The fact that the chancellor reacted so quickly is a measure of the political importance he attaches to this issue.”

Its stance on Iraq is one issue where the government has retained widespread support, despite public criticism of its economic reforms.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coalition; election; france; germany; iraq; kerry; kerryforeignpolicy; troops; waronterror
So we now see that the German government's refusal to send troops is due to political reasons. Its sad to see leaders feed the irrational beliefs of their populations. John Kerry by saying that he could get the French and Germans to send troops is essentially doing the same thing, garnering support among the naive in the US, playing on their fears to win the election. Fortunately this appears to be failing looking at the current polls.
1 posted on 10/16/2004 2:50:19 PM PDT by AKSurprise
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To: AKSurprise

The American people are too smart to let a Gigolo and an Ambulance Chaser from fooling them again. They learned their lesson from Slick Willie and Earth to Gore.


2 posted on 10/16/2004 2:52:42 PM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: Jose Roberto

Kerry is doing exactly what the Socialists at the DNC want him to do.

They are planning on a Kerry win. This way the Italians and everyone else Kerry put down will leave Iraq and then citing growing fears of lack of confidence in the US position in Iraq, Kerry will pull the US out.

Then he will blame Bush for the unability to hhold a great coalition together. The MSM will of course side with Kerry and will report that the "Coalition" fell apart. We will sit here and rant that Kerry said there was no coalition and it wil fall upon deaf ears because of MSM spin.

Koolaid drinkers everywhere will blame Bush.



3 posted on 10/16/2004 3:03:16 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yes, but those Kool Aid drinkers will have their own Jonestown on November 2nd when the American people give them the thumbs down. And Germany will not have to bother to deny us troops in Iraq because Bush simply does not hold the Germs to any esteem after what they did to us in alliance with (twice liberated by US) France and Russia.


4 posted on 10/16/2004 3:13:30 PM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: AKSurprise

The Germans are hedging their bets. When Bush wins, they don’t want to be on the other/wrong side. They know Bush would slap them around even more if they suggested such a thing.


5 posted on 10/16/2004 3:22:52 PM PDT by kddid (Hope springs eternal.)
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To: kddid

Another world leader tells kerry to-SHOVE IT .


6 posted on 10/16/2004 3:38:19 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: AKSurprise

Schadenfraude.


7 posted on 10/16/2004 3:41:24 PM PDT by NetSurfer (Proud member of the Pajama-Wearing Lunatic Fringe)
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To: AKSurprise
Kerry win ‘would not change German position'

I've got to hand it to the Krauts (I can call them that as about 50% of my forbearors
were KRAUTS).

The do have that wondrous mixture of integrity and hubris that keeps them from
being wise and dangling a promise of a small force for Iraq in order to
get a truly exploitable puppet President like Kerry in office.
8 posted on 10/16/2004 3:44:31 PM PDT by VOA
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To: kddid
The Germans are hedging their bets. When Bush wins, they don’t want to be on the other/wrong side. They know Bush would slap them around even more if they suggested such a thing.

Good point!

9 posted on 10/16/2004 4:53:04 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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The Germans don't want to antagonize the Bush administration any more, and they also placate their population.

Like always, they're still of no use to us as a nation.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 5:57:51 PM PDT by wrathof59 (semper ubi sub ubi)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Are you Pat Buchanon? jk, it's just that your prediction could more than likely happen (if Kerry wins). And Pat Buchanon seems to always be right on the mark with his predictions.


11 posted on 10/20/2004 11:38:30 PM PDT by zahal724 (I own a lumber company? Want some wood?)
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To: zahal724
Yes, he does. He predicted that when he got the Reform Party matching funds his campaign for President would take off like a rocket.

He also predicted that if we went into Afghanistan thousands of our troops would come home in body bags.

I'm sure pat also predicted the latest copy of his same old book would sell.

12 posted on 10/20/2004 11:42:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Do I detect a note of sarcasm?


13 posted on 10/20/2004 11:43:55 PM PDT by zahal724 (I own a lumber company? Want some wood?)
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To: zahal724

Naw. The only problem with buchanan's predictions is buchanan. He hasn't been right about much for many years now.


14 posted on 10/20/2004 11:44:55 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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