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The Draft - We Won't Be Silenced
Rock the Vote Email Notification ^ | Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:03:51 -0400 (EDT) | Jehmu Greene

Posted on 10/16/2004 6:26:01 PM PDT by hpfisher

Dear Voter,

We just received an outrageous letter from the Chairman of the Republican Party, demanding that we stop talking about the issue of the military draft.

He said that the draft issue is just an “urban myth” and Rock the Vote’s effort is being conducted with “reckless disregard for the truth.”

The truth is that we still haven’t received acceptable answers from the candidates to real questions affecting our lives. The possibility of a draft is not a hoax. It’s a real issue that deserves real answers.

An attempt to silence us by any politician—Democrat, Republican, Whatever—is unacceptable. This is one of the most important issues affecting our generation. And that’s why we need to stand up and make our voices heard right away.

Below is the letter that Rock the Vote sent back to the Chairman. Please read it.

If you like what we are saying, sign our petition to the Chairmen of both the Republican and Democratic parties asking them to answer some key questions that we have about the draft:

http://www.rockthevote.com/draft

We’re not going to stop talking about the issue of a draft simply because it makes the politicians squirm. We’re not going to let Congress think that a phony vote against the draft settles the matter.

By sending thousands of email draft cards and talking to your friends about the possibility of a draft, you ignited a national dialogue. If you have any doubt, just look at the last two presidential debates—both of which included questions for both candidates on the draft.

Click here to tell both parties that we need answers to some fundamental questions affecting our lives:

http://www..rockthevote.com/draft

Sincerely, Jehmu Greene President

PS. And please donate now to support our efforts to make the candidates address this issue. Donate to our campaign today.

http://www.rockthevote.com/rtv_donate.php


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KEYWORDS: draft; fearmongering; fundraising; military; mtv; rockthevote
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This is pretty insane. I had to, of course, reply back— and yes, the email "delivery failed". And they don't happen to have any area for "open" discussion or contact addresses on the official website. Free speech, right?

My friends are actually recieving these bogus "draft cards", and they DO believe that Bush is going to reinstate the draft...never mind the fact that the candidates speak for themselves. Ugh..MTV! I'll have to send my fury through the mail on Monday.

Sorry if this is already posted, I don't put things on here often.

1 posted on 10/16/2004 6:26:02 PM PDT by hpfisher
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To: hpfisher

http://www.grassboots.org/KerryDraft.pdf


2 posted on 10/16/2004 6:27:59 PM PDT by In veno, veritas
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To: hpfisher

THE WORLD IS FLAT!!!!


3 posted on 10/16/2004 6:28:52 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (I like Elephants .... a wise and noble creature....)
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To: hpfisher
The truth is that we still haven't received acceptable answers from the candidates to real questions affecting our lives.

Golly...you would think they would now empathize with us on how WE feel about Kerry. :-) Wishfull thinking though. :-)
4 posted on 10/16/2004 6:29:12 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: hpfisher
Dimwit MTV drughead communist liberal propagandist distortionist lying cheating theiving weaseling imbeciles.
6 posted on 10/16/2004 6:30:06 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: hpfisher
The truth is that we still haven’t received acceptable answers from the candidates to real questions affecting our lives. The possibility of a draft is not a hoax. It’s a real issue that deserves real answers.

OK, I have to post the cliche - "What part of NO DRAFT don't you get?"

7 posted on 10/16/2004 6:30:49 PM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: atomicpossum; All

I think we should Freep "Rock the Vote" !


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To: hpfisher
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9 posted on 10/16/2004 6:31:23 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: hpfisher

They won't be silenced because their entire campaign is dependent on lies. The possibility of a draft most certainly is a hoax and they know it. The House just overwhelmingly voted it down and it would never get a filabuster proof majority for passage in the Senate.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 6:31:24 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: hpfisher

One thing we can do is to boycott Sunkist which is listed as their sponsor. Hitting the pocketbook usually makes a difference.


11 posted on 10/16/2004 6:32:25 PM PDT by imfrmdixie
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To: hiredhand

If the draft is reinstated, it will be because of Dem's. The Dems keep talking about our military is running thin, which is a lie. ONLY about 5% of our military is seeing any action anywhere.



www.TheConservativeRepublican.com


12 posted on 10/16/2004 6:32:29 PM PDT by joevberry333 (www.TheConservativeRepublican.com)
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To: atomicpossum

Just to be clear, I think this email is asinine. I was hoping for some support in clarifying RTV on their "obvious" bias.


13 posted on 10/16/2004 6:33:04 PM PDT by hpfisher (The Truth shall reign!)
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To: All
Dear Jehmu Greene,
Prove it!!!!!


14 posted on 10/16/2004 6:33:23 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: hpfisher

http://www.redeemthevote.com


15 posted on 10/16/2004 6:34:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: atomicpossum

tell us how you really feel ;>)


16 posted on 10/16/2004 6:34:53 PM PDT by pharmamom (Just give the entire Middle East some Zoloft)
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To: hpfisher

These stupid a$$holes must not have heard Bush when he said there would be no military draft!!!!


17 posted on 10/16/2004 6:34:59 PM PDT by RockinRight (John Kerry is the wrong candidate, for the wrong country, at the wrong time)
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To: hpfisher

Personally, I don't mind if this is posted more than once- I agree- this is madness. These youngsters are ignorant- and apparently incapable of hearing either Kerry or Bush on this issue.

My son (active duty infantry) tells me NO ONE in the military wants a draft- neither officers nor enlisted personnel.


18 posted on 10/16/2004 6:35:07 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: hpfisher

How stupid. How can they say they bush hasn't given an acceptable answer? Bush said in the debate on national TV there wasn't gonna be one. The only people proposing it are Dems.


19 posted on 10/16/2004 6:35:42 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: hpfisher
Mr. Green seems to have a yellow streak about a mile wide down his back. Sure, let the poor and lower middle-class kids go and fight the nation's wars, don't bother me, I'm too high & mighty to dirty my hands or risk my life for my country. I'll bet he gets Federal Student Loans and any other government benefit he can put his grubby little hands on, though. The leftist, sniveling, "what's in it for me" twenty-somethings of today would've run to Canada when World War II started, insuring our defeat by the Axis of Japan, Germany and Italy! Excuse me while I throw-up my dinner!
20 posted on 10/16/2004 6:36:19 PM PDT by The Loan Arranger (At least Jane Fonda "apologized".)
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To: joevberry333

Yep...I knew this. But thanks for putting it in writing here and dispelling FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) for others! :-)


21 posted on 10/16/2004 6:36:43 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: hpfisher

Kerry could be just as likely to institute the draft as Bush. IF we were attacked and needed people then I am sure someone would reinstitute if people keep acting like the Reservists who refused to go to Iraq.

It's ridiculous to be claiming it for either party, since it hasn't been talked about. HOWEVER it is COMMON SENSE THAT A DRAFT WOULD COME IN AN EMERGENCY WHERE THERE ARE TOO FEW TO SERVE. HOPEFULLY NOT, but we need to keep our perspective. WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT A DRAFT IN WW II?? WE don't know do we, since there was one.


22 posted on 10/16/2004 6:36:49 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Here's what I wrote in my reply, which "didn't go through"...
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This probably won't get anywhere, but here it goes:

It's ridiculous to act as if the candidates have not answered questions about the draft. Bush has said clearly in the debates of recent (and many times before) that he is for and "all volunteer" army, and it will stay that way. I believe you are using the issue of a draft in a partisan political, and frankly- a hysterical manner. You are assuming the generation of MTV consumers are so stupid that all they have is MTV to give them "the facts". I don't blame the RNC party for calling you out, isn't it their right?

You act as though people can't hear with their own ears what the candidates have said about your "big" issue. Well, I heard Bush say "all volunteer" and Kerry say something to the effect of, 2 Active Duties.

So by your rules, I think you should be propagandizing Kerry's loose explanation of his goals for the U.S. Army, and questioning [just as loudly] his perspective on the future of the Draft. Why don't you let us all know about the 2 un-touched Bills sitting in the House which specifically call for a re-instatement of the Draft...written by Democrats.
Have you informed us of these facts?

Probably not.
You're just as intolerant of the facts as the Party/Parties you claim to be 'hushing' you.

I think your campaign is rather biased, and also ...not surprising.
much like the tired old cliche, RTV is like the POT calling the KETTLE BLACK.

How unprofessional.


ps. Thanks for having the RTV blog open to the public. You're sooooo Democratic!


23 posted on 10/16/2004 6:38:51 PM PDT by hpfisher (The Truth shall reign!)
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To: hpfisher

"The truth is that we still haven’t received acceptable answers from the candidates to real questions affecting our lives. The possibility of a draft is not a hoax. It’s a real issue that deserves real answers." It does no good to inform these fools that the efforts to start up a draft are ALL being led by DEMONCRATS seeking to create a wedge issue for 2004. Truth means nothing to agenda-laden doltish democrats masquerading as 'concerned citizens'.


24 posted on 10/16/2004 6:41:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: hpfisher

This is an easy one. Using the Rangell/Hollings bills, Kerry's plan for 2 years of "public service" in exchange for 4 years of college and Kerry's call for two more Army divisions, you craft an MTV oriented campaign commercial announcing Kerry and the Democrats' plan for a new draft. Run it several times before the election.


25 posted on 10/16/2004 6:41:31 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: hpfisher

26 posted on 10/16/2004 6:41:37 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: hpfisher
How about Kerry's REAL mandatory "public service" plan? Do MTV slackers realize that they CANNOT GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL unless they complete the vague Kerry-mandated "public service" requirement?

This plan is REAL. No urban mythmaking is needed. How about "Rock the Vote" spread the TRUTH about that!

27 posted on 10/16/2004 6:42:25 PM PDT by montag813
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To: hpfisher

You want to do something constructive?... Post for me a few links proving that George Soros is hellbent to bring down this Republic, in favor of One World government.


28 posted on 10/16/2004 6:43:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Hardastarboard

Obviously these people are brainwashed, someone has stepped on their douche bag.


29 posted on 10/16/2004 6:43:19 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: The Loan Arranger

Jehmu Greene is a woman.

http://www.mediacenter.org/content/5143.cfm

And a stupid, trouble-making one too.

Paid by Soros, of course.


30 posted on 10/16/2004 6:44:42 PM PDT by UseYourHead (This November, remember who the terrorists are voting for.)
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To: hpfisher

Unfortunately, it would seem that a majority of Generation Whatever-they-ares do, in fact, get their news only from MTV. I think a draft would be good for most of them. Teach them a little discipline and that the world doesn't owe them a living.


31 posted on 10/16/2004 6:47:22 PM PDT by pharmamom (Just give the entire Middle East some Zoloft)
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To: hpfisher

32 posted on 10/16/2004 6:47:37 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan (We childproofed our home, but they are still getting in)
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To: hpfisher
Just to be clear, I think this email is asinine. I was hoping for some support in clarifying RTV on their "obvious" bias.

I'm sure you do think the e-mail is assinine. I think the problem is that RTV knows they're simply perpetrating a lie designed to damage Bush. They just don't care whether it's true or not, much in the same way that they claim to be 'non-partisan' but are all about making more young liberal mush-heads.

33 posted on 10/16/2004 6:47:58 PM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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To: hpfisher

"We’re not going to let Congress think that a phony vote against the draft settles the matter. "

What?? How is any vote of congress a phony vote?


34 posted on 10/16/2004 6:48:48 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: hpfisher

Got the same email only moments ago. Deleted it. F*ck'em.


35 posted on 10/16/2004 6:49:29 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: atomicpossum

Ahhh...it's so sad, how little informed people my age are. And I'm not trying to be pretentious here. MSM strikes again. I took myself off that deceitful list.

(sigh)


36 posted on 10/16/2004 6:51:04 PM PDT by hpfisher (The Truth shall reign!)
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To: joevberry333; All

A dem (Rangel) brought it up, along with another dem whose name I can't remember, President Bush and Rumsfeldt have unequivocally denied that there will be a draft, we have the news media doing stories about not enough troops, and the dems are keeping it up by this E-mail. Part of their agenda.

I didn't know that only 5% of our military are seeing action, that's interesting. Shoots the dem's point about our military running thin straight out of the water, huh?


37 posted on 10/16/2004 6:53:17 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Kerry says "Vote for me I have a plan" - I'm voting for Bush, 'cause he's da MAN!)
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To: hpfisher

We Won't Be Silenced (From Lying)! *L*


38 posted on 10/16/2004 6:55:32 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: atomicpossum

Yea what you said !


39 posted on 10/16/2004 6:57:22 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Want to know why I don't vote Democrat?" http://www.museumofleftwinglunacy.com)
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To: SE Mom

A very good reason for no one in the military wanting a draft is that you don't get the best, dedicated people for the job, you get conscripts. Not the best prescription for an effective military. Not to say that you can't win wars with a military draft, it just makes sense to use a draft only if it is necessary.


40 posted on 10/16/2004 6:57:52 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Kerry says "Vote for me I have a plan" - I'm voting for Bush, 'cause he's da MAN!)
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Rock The Vote is nothing more than a front group for the Democrats.

What is really sad is that the Dems have thrown EVERYTHING they have at President Bush and have nothing to show for it. Pathetic!


41 posted on 10/16/2004 6:59:43 PM PDT by kasparik
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To: LeoWindhorse

And the sky is falling!


42 posted on 10/16/2004 7:01:00 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: kasparik

I think that Hollywood actress Miss Cameron Diaz is a supporter of RTV,

anyone happen to catch that great moment on Oprah a few weeks ago where she said, "Voting is so important, we could loose the rights to our bodies...if you want to LEGALIZE rape, then don't vote"

(or something like that)

Ha, ha, ha...I'm still laughing!


43 posted on 10/16/2004 7:02:23 PM PDT by hpfisher (The Truth shall reign!)
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To: hpfisher

Does anyone remember the line in "STRIPES", when they were saying things about themselves and Lee Harvey said that he "joined up to avoid the draft"....BWAHHAAAAHHAAAA! Does anyone have the clip? This would be hilarious.


44 posted on 10/16/2004 7:04:20 PM PDT by rennatdm
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To: hpfisher
best chance for a draft is new disasters brought about by a Kerry victory and their negotiating with the corrupt UN.
45 posted on 10/16/2004 7:04:24 PM PDT by alrea (The Director of Homeland Security for New Jersey is watching over their ports.)
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To: hpfisher

Jane Fonda "owns her vagina". Well I should hope so.... BWAAAAHHHHAAAHHHHAAAA!!!!!


46 posted on 10/16/2004 7:06:08 PM PDT by rennatdm
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To: hpfisher

I've seen this Jehmu Greene on Dennis Miller's show.

She's still as clueless as she appeared to be then.


47 posted on 10/16/2004 7:06:11 PM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: hpfisher

What I found more interesting is the responses on the site. Looks like a lot of people have caught on to them. I'd recommend going over and adding to the comments.


48 posted on 10/16/2004 7:09:38 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: hpfisher
I don't suppose the idiots actually noticed that the issue of a draft was voted upon last week.

THE VOTE WAS NO NO NO NO NO

But then some people have a history of thinking NO means yes.

49 posted on 10/16/2004 7:12:16 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: hpfisher

...vast right wing what?

I have never in my life seen such a coordinated and consolidated effort on the part of the left to committ fraud to steal an election on such a broad scale.

These people are criminals and get their strategies from the bolshevik play book.


50 posted on 10/16/2004 7:12:23 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (George W. Bush is a leader and John Kerry is not.)
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