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Kerry the Clueless: He's a Democrat who offers Israel nothing but muddled ideas
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 17, 2004 | Martin Peretz

Posted on 10/17/2004 1:23:53 AM PDT by billorites

Like many American Jews, I was brought up to believe that if I pulled the Republican lever on the election machine my right hand would wither and, as the Psalmist says, my tongue would cleave to the roof of my mouth.

According to the Bible, of course, these are the feared consequences of forgetting Jerusalem. Now although there are many reasons one might want to vote for John F. Kerry, remembering Jerusalem — remembering to stand up for the state of Israel — is not among them.

It is true that Kerry's campaign pronouncements have been unexceptionable from the pro-Zionist point of view. Yes, he flip-flopped on the miles of trenches and fences Israel is building to defend itself from the plague of terrorism, first attacking the structure as "another barrier to peace," then accepting it as "a legitimate act of self-defense."

He has also floundered concerning what can be expected of Yasser Arafat. Just as Arafat was launching the second intifada in 2000, Kerry asserted optimistically that we must "look to Chairman Arafat to exert much greater leadership." Three days later, he portentously declared the obvious on CBS' "Face the Nation," calling the Israel-Palestinian conflict "an extraordinarily complicated, incredibly deep-rooted problem." What made this problem so extraordinary and incredible? "Arafat has forces around him, underneath him, close by him that don't want peace, that are working against what he is doing," Kerry said by way of exoneration. (And, to sustain the moral equivalence of the parties in his head, he added, "The same is true of Prime Minister [Ehud] Barak" — which was nonsense, as there wasn't a single such person in Barak's circle.)

By now, to be sure, Kerry thinks that Arafat's "support" for terrorism has already rendered him unfit as a partner for peace.

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TOPICS: Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: jewishvote; kerry; peretz
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1 posted on 10/17/2004 1:23:53 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites
They closed the Kerry website discussion topic on Israel/Arab debate. Hard to flip-flop and pander to two opposing groups on the same chat board!
2 posted on 10/17/2004 1:29:44 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: billorites
Any Jew that votes for Kerry in this election is hopelessly lost and will never get it. There couldn't be a more pressing reason, nor perfect candidate for these times, than exists right now. If you're number one on the hit parade and you don't pick the sure thing re. your defense then...well, then you get what you deserve.


3 posted on 10/17/2004 1:35:08 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Democrats: The blind leading the stupid enabling the evil.)
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To: endthematrix
They closed the Kerry website discussion topic on Israel/Arab debate.

Too bad! I'll bet there was some great stuff on it (snicker)!

4 posted on 10/17/2004 1:38:41 AM PDT by maryz
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To: billorites

I can't believe they actually published that!

Must be getting a clue from their readership drop...


5 posted on 10/17/2004 1:50:48 AM PDT by wrbones (Where'd I put my tin foil hat....)
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To: billorites

Any jew or any muslim who votes for Kerry is voting against peace in the middle east.


6 posted on 10/17/2004 3:11:40 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: LiberalBassTurds; All
Perhaps this gives a 'sense' of things...


7 posted on 10/17/2004 3:27:25 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was ALSO a 'war hero'... before he became a Traitor!!!)
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To: billorites
It's just like Koch said,
Kerry would run to the EU to make friends, they'd tell him that they'd like to handle Mid East peace negotiations, then they'd tell Israel to go to hell, and they'd begin making business deals with the Arabs.
8 posted on 10/17/2004 4:04:57 AM PDT by Jaysun (HAVE YOU GIVEN ALL YOU CAN TO RALPH NADER??????)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
9 posted on 10/17/2004 5:09:30 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: Seadog Bytes

lol


10 posted on 10/17/2004 6:47:03 AM PDT by miltonim (Fight those who do not believe in Allah. - Koran, Surah IX: 29)
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To: All

I don't know if you saw the rest of the ad, but these two key thoughts are very telling:

About Kerry:

For his part, Kerry grabs at any showy idea to demonstrate his sense of urgency. As a response to militant Islam and to encourage moderate Muslims, the presidential aspirant proposed that "the great religious figures of the planet" — he mentioned the pope, the archbishop of Canterbury and the Dalai Lama — hold a summit.

To do exactly … what?

"To begin to help the world to see the ways in which Islam is not, in fact, a threat," Kerry said, "and to isolate those who are, and to give people the strength to be able to come together in a global effort to take away their financing, their freedom to move, their sanctuary and so forth."

This muddled foolishness reflects Kerry's sense of politics as desperate theater. Another simply showy idea he proposed (to Tim Russert on NBC's "Meet the Press") was to insert U.S. troops between Israel and the territories, as part "of some kind of very neutral international effort that began to allow Israel itself to disengage and withdraw."

Now, if anything would put U.S. soldiers in harm's way it is such a move, exposing our men and women to fiercely competing gangs of suicide bombers and other killers.


About Bush:

By contrast, Bush has committed Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to a Palestinian state and to a withdrawal from some, though certainly not all, of the settlements. In return, the president has recognized that the most populous and strategically pivotal settlements would remain in Israeli hands and has also ruled out what would be suicide for Israel, the return of Palestinian refugees after 56 years. The Palestinians have not yet signed on to these particulars. But they are the future details of any peace.

Bush's empathy for the government in Israel is particularly remarkable, because empathy was altogether foreign to both Bush pere and his secretary of State. One can only imagine the horror of George H.W. and Baker (to whom the current president may actually owe his office) in seeing the inheritor become a true ally of Israel. Yet there it is. And with his understanding of — and sympathy for — the Israeli predicament, Bush has coaxed from Sharon an agreement to withdraw unilaterally from all the Gaza settlements and from four in the West Bank — something even left-wing governments, as Benn puts it, "were afraid to do."

Kerry, meanwhile, appears ready to formulaically follow the failed precepts of the past, complete with photo ops and multiple interlocutors. This is a road map to nowhere.


11 posted on 10/17/2004 8:21:17 AM PDT by PowerPro (Still Praying America Wakes Up In Time)
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To: stuart weil

bump


12 posted on 10/17/2004 1:04:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: billorites

I bet Bush will get a high turnout among American Jews. Many of them are single issue voters.


13 posted on 10/17/2004 1:54:50 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: Seadog Bytes
LOL Seadog. Thank you. That's perfect!


14 posted on 10/17/2004 10:43:13 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Democrats: The blind leading the stupid enabling the evil.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

With all of kerry's money, why do i only see pics. of him in that ugly mustard colored coat, maybe he actually was going to buy a ketchup red one, before he elected to buy that one.


15 posted on 10/18/2004 12:38:27 AM PDT by diss-a-lib (I used to get lost in the shuffle, but now i just shuffle along with the lost.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

With all of kerry's money, why do i only see pics. of him in that ugly mustard colored coat, maybe he actually was going to buy a ketchup red one, before he elected to buy that one.


16 posted on 10/18/2004 12:38:27 AM PDT by diss-a-lib (I used to get lost in the shuffle, but now i just shuffle along with the lost.)
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To: tkathy

Right, any Jew who votes for Kerry, cares not what may happen to Israel. He is more apt. to cozy up to the "beheaders in bedsheets" than take a strong stand in defense of his ancestrial home.


17 posted on 10/18/2004 12:49:20 AM PDT by diss-a-lib (I used to get lost in the shuffle, but now i just shuffle along with the lost.)
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To: tkathy

Right, any Jew who votes for Kerry, cares not what may happen to Israel. He is more apt. to cozy up to the "beheaders in bedsheets" than take a strong stand in defense of his ancestrial home.


18 posted on 10/18/2004 12:49:20 AM PDT by diss-a-lib (I used to get lost in the shuffle, but now i just shuffle along with the lost.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

I actually voted against walking down this street, before i voted to walk down it.


19 posted on 10/18/2004 12:52:37 AM PDT by diss-a-lib (I used to get lost in the shuffle, but now i just shuffle along with the lost.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

I actually voted against walking down this street, before i voted to walk down it.


20 posted on 10/18/2004 12:52:37 AM PDT by diss-a-lib (I used to get lost in the shuffle, but now i just shuffle along with the lost.)
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