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DRUDGE REPORT: Pat Buchanan to Endorse Bush Tomorrow
Drudge Report Radio | October 17, 2004 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 10/17/2004 7:15:03 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Matt Drudge said he heard from the "grapevine" that Pat Buchanan will endorse Bush tomorrow.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antiwarright; buchanan; bush; drudge; endorsement; gwb2004; kerry; patbuchanan
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To: bayourod
Buchanan was playing on the fears and prejudices of people against Mexicans.

Actually, it's primarily fears and prejudices against Mexican illegal alien lawbreakers. This would include drug smugglers, violent gangbangers, and every other category of criminal who is running from Mexican authorities, or who has decided that the U.S. is a more profitable place to ply their criminal trade.

That's how superficial his message needs to be to convince his racists supporters.

Groups like La Raza, LULAC, MALDEF, and MEChA have many millions of racist supporters, which is way more than an individual like Buchanan has.

41 posted on 10/17/2004 10:20:26 PM PDT by usadave
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To: dr_who_2

Haha, go back and read my post...it was a joke. That's why I put the ;) at the bottom.


42 posted on 10/17/2004 10:26:11 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (These Commies are ruining our country...........WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE)
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To: bayourod
Maybe that's because our borders are more under control than people realize.

The first rule in security is to keep the details of your security system secret.

We know that the border patrol on the Southern border has been immensely beefed up and modernized with high tech surveillance equipment.

What we don't know is how much human intelligence we've moved into Mexico or how much satellite monitoring of cell phones in Mexico or how much monitoring of entry points into Mexico.

Just because we aren't arresting all of the Mexican laborers crossing the border doesn't mean we haven't effectively prevented it from being a practical entry method for Arab terrorists.

You've brought up some valid points to consider. Hopefully, for all of our sakes, our southern border is more secure than it appears to be.

43 posted on 10/17/2004 10:31:18 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: bayourod
"A number of the terrorists on 09/11 had expired entry visas. "

They weren't expired when they entered. They didn't enter because "our borders weren't under control".

The term 'keeping our borders under control' applies to all oversight of entries into the United States.  If people overstay their visas, the borders are not controled.  If people enter the nation from terrorist states, take down four airliners and destroy two of the tallest buildings in the nation, severely damage the center of our military operations in the United States, kill 3000 of our citizens, not to mention a number of police officer, firemen and military personel, then our borders are not under control.

The policies that govern entry into the United States are both flawed, and uninforced.  No the borders are not under control.  These terrorists who shouldn't have been here killed thousands of people.  Yes, our lax border control has cost us dearly on U.S. soil.  Is this getting too technical for you.

Buchanan was playing on the fears and prejudices of people against Mexicans. Don't you remember his ads about the dangers of choking on meatballs because the 911 operater might be bilingual?

The point of that add was that a person not able to speak english, might not be able to obtain emergency services in time, should they need them.  I don't see that as a put-down.  Frankly I see it as a safety issue which could place the illegal immigrant in grave danger.  Why would you deem that to be a negative.  Do you not care if someone dies because they didn't bother to learn the language?  Advocating english be spoken and understood in the United States, is a reasoned policy.  I can't imagine going to France and expecting their emergency operator to take care of me in english, or someone else in swahili, farsi or some other language.  It is the immigrant that should adapt, not the host nation.

That's how superficial his message needs to be to convince his racists supporters. Now he's doing the same thing by trying to tie terrorism to Mexicans entering illegally when there is no connection.

You've been throwing out the racist card on Buchanan's supporters for years.  If I were the owner of this forum I'd boot your ass off here for doing so.  Buchanan supporters advocate the immigration laws of our nation be enforced.  We advocate they be enforced with equal conviction on illegal entrants from any nation.  It just so happens that most illegal immigration occurs from Mexico.

If all bank robers were white, would it be racist to address that fact?  Of course not.

As you have demonstrated for years, this subject is way beyond your capacity.  Thanks for the comments anyway.


44 posted on 10/17/2004 10:35:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne
I have done so a number of times before, and you know it, so why bother again. You took the time to announce your Buchananite loyalties to all the readers. Why shouldn't bayourod explain to them why that was a bad call? Even though he responded to your post he is obviously talking to the readers. If he was talking to you he would have written "I can't believe YOU actually thought on election day that Pat could win. He got less than 1/4th of one percent of the vote. YOU'RE delusional."
45 posted on 10/17/2004 10:48:22 PM PDT by Once-Ler (Proud Republican. and Neo-Con Bushbot.)
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To: judgeandjury; bayourod
Maybe that's because our borders are more under control than people realize.

The first rule in security is to keep the details of your security system secret.

We know that the border patrol on the Southern border has been immensely beefed up and modernized with high tech surveillance equipment.

What we don't know is how much human intelligence we've moved into Mexico or how much satellite monitoring of cell phones in Mexico or how much monitoring of entry points into Mexico.

Just because we aren't arresting all of the Mexican laborers crossing the border doesn't mean we haven't effectively prevented it from being a practical entry method for Arab terrorists.

You've brought up some valid points to consider. Hopefully, for all of our sakes, our southern border is more secure than it appears to be.

First and foremost, from my vantage point, Bayourod is a disrupter on this topic.  His comments have no connection whatesoever to reality even in the slightest.  Over the last five years I have dealt with him, he has never address real issues with reasoned logic.

The first rule in security is to make sure the citizens of the United States are safe.  Secrecy is a distant second to that cardinal goal.

Second, beefing up and modernizing the border with high tech surveylance equipment doesn't amount to a hill of beans if it doesn't stop illegal entry into the United States of people wanted on felony warrants for murder, rape, pedophelia, robery, assault, burglery...  On top of that, it is well known on this forum that over 100 suspected terrorists were admitted into our nation several years ago, by accident.  In the last week it has been revealed that the government is afraid two Chechyan terrorist cells of roughly 29 people have entered the nation recently.  They still aren't sure, which should really speak for itself.  This despite those wonder new measures at the borders.  On top of this, Time magazine reports 3.5 million illegals now enter the nation each year, also in spite of the enhancements.

What we don't know....  yep, smoke screen.  Nothing may have been done.  Very little could have been done.

Well we know for sure arab terrorists have entered through the border with Mexico.  One such individual was arrested in Chicago after shopping his terrorist skills to several groups in the area.  By luck, one of them happened to be a law enforcement front.

No, Bayourod hasn't brought up valid points that anyone who's followed his topic for a decade or more wouldn't be capable of shooting down.  He just trolls the forum spewing so that the unsuspecting might be misled.


46 posted on 10/17/2004 10:50:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Once-Ler

Thanks for the response. I don't have anything more to add. Take care.


47 posted on 10/17/2004 10:53:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Due to births, that number may actually be surpassed.


48 posted on 10/17/2004 10:59:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne
" Frankly I see it as a safety issue which could place the illegal immigrant in grave danger. "Your humanitarian concern for illegal aliens is very touching, almost as touching as Kerry's explanation that he mentioned Cheney's daughter being gay to compliment Cheney.
49 posted on 10/17/2004 11:05:23 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not fact driven, not event driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: DoughtyOne
That's actually a conservative figure. You're right. The illegals, once here, reproduce way faster than legal citizens, as you know. Can't imagine making 15k a year and having 6 kids. Of course, we are footing most of the bill for all that too, in more ways than most realize.

In ten short years, by 2014 we wont recognize America, 50 million will be speaking Spanish, and will live as they did in ol Mexico. With the help of our government, they will have turned our elections into a three ring circus, of fraud and corruption. Watch what happens this coming election, and you can imagine what it's going to be like by 2014.

50 posted on 10/17/2004 11:11:09 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: bayourod
Frankly I see it as a safety issue which could place the illegal immigrant in grave danger.  Your humanitarian concern for illegal aliens is very touching, almost as touching as Kerry's explanation that he mentioned Cheney's daughter being gay to compliment Cheney.

Thank you for the compliment.

Hmmm, in one instance someone might die because they wouldn't recieve medical aid in a timely manner.  In the second example someone might get insulted.

So you truly think the impact of these two concepts are equal.  Heh heh heh...
51 posted on 10/17/2004 11:12:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Well we know for sure arab terrorists have entered through the border with Mexico. One such individual was arrested in Chicago after shopping his terrorist skills to several groups in the area."

Do you have a link for that? And I'm curious about these "groups" to which he offered his services. Are they Al Qaeda cells? Are they listed in the yellow pages under terrorist support groups or do they just advertise on television?

52 posted on 10/17/2004 11:14:21 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not fact driven, not event driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: bayourod
Not a single act of terrorism has resulted from "our borders not being under control".

Prove it.

53 posted on 10/17/2004 11:16:14 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: DoughtyOne; yonif; SJackson; Lazamataz
"It's sad to see such animosity toward a guy who stated in the early 1990s that..."

..."the U.S. Congress is occupied Israeli territory."

Buchanon is the David Duke of modern politics. His "endorsement" motivates Blacks to turn out in high numbers *against* whomever Buchanon endorses. Ditto for Jews and Hispanics.

54 posted on 10/17/2004 11:16:41 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Yes, I agree Joe. It sure is painful to watch this train-wreck.


55 posted on 10/17/2004 11:18:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: judgeandjury
Hopefully, for all of our sakes, our southern border is more secure than it appears to be.

LOL! Sure, we know exactly who the 3 million annual illegal crossers are, their backgrounds, and where to find them if we need them.

56 posted on 10/17/2004 11:21:44 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Fatalis

Which terrorist incident would you like for me to prove?


57 posted on 10/17/2004 11:22:59 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not fact driven, not event driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: bayourod
I'd like you to prove the negative you asserted. Can you?
58 posted on 10/17/2004 11:24:47 PM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Fatalis
LOL! Sure, we know exactly who the 3 million annual illegal crossers are, their backgrounds, and where to find them if we need them.

Yeah, it's like looking at Los Angeles and saying, nope, there are no terrorist there, and you can't prove it.

59 posted on 10/17/2004 11:25:33 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"The illegals, once here, reproduce way faster than legal citizens, as you know. "

Yeah, I've heard they've got it down from nine months to only four months. It's that naturalization ceremony that causes them to reproduce slower.

60 posted on 10/17/2004 11:27:05 PM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not fact driven, not event driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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