Serial Killer Story: A Deal with the Devil?

CBS News ^

[MassRepublicanFlyersFan]

CBS) Coral Eugene Watts may be the most prolific serial killer in U.S. history. He’s already admitted to killing more than a dozen women, but authorities believe the actual number may be closer to 100.

Watts is scheduled to be released from prison in less than two years, after serving just 24 years of a 60-year sentence. How can that be?

[MassRepublicanFlyersFan]

This story was on CBS Sunday (10/17) night.

[texasflower]

I had forgotten about this monster. It seems to me that he had several celebrity supporters during his trial.

Someone else from Texas will probably remember better than I do.

[pete anderson]

Houston, early 1980's Watts was had killed a couple dozen women and he made a deal with Harris Co. DA Johnny Holmes (R) for a shot sentence if he told where all the skeletons were buried. He is be out and walking the streets in two years.

[saigon]

This is a case that was made for the death penality. Heaven forbid this guy gets out.

[risk]

The death penalty is now considered cruel and unusual punishment by most liberals. No matter how heinous the crime, taking the criminal's life is unacceptable. Furthermore, due to the increasingly liberal nature of courts and prisoner administration, the opportunity for previously denied parole opportunities and parole is always there as long as the criminal is alive.

[texasflower]

Right. I remember him. But what I was wondering was whether he was one of the monsters that had vocal celebrity supporters.

I was thinking that he did, but I could have him confused with someone else. But is sure seems that he had some celebrities in his corner.

Do you remember?

[saigon]

I think it was cruel and unusual punishment that they let this guy plea bargain instead of bringing the death penality against him in the first place.

Most liberal's do think like that when the crime doesn't affect them. That is their problem. They see in gray instead of black and white. This wouldn't be a problem except some things are black and white.

[pete anderson]

As I recall they had this guy nailed and no one really supported him. The only guy I recall getting celebrity support in Texas at that time was Clarence Brantley who was on Death Row for killing a girl in Conroe.

Brantly, was on Death Row until the late 1980's when after a great deal of effort by celebrities, AI and other groups had his conviction overturned when DNA proved that he did not kill the Girl.

Brantley was weeks if not days away from an appointment with the needle when the state finally reviewed his case.

Scary stuff, The state came very close to executing an Innocent man.

[risk]

Liberals until they're mugged...

[fortheDeclaration]

We had him for attempted murder and burglary.

He pled to avoid the attempted murder charge and only got hit with the burglary and assault.

He got caught attempting to drown a woman in her bathtub.

The plea bargain made was to clear the books on unsolved crimes and was a disgrace.

He got 99 years but because of overcrowding almost 2/3 of the sentence was taken off.

I hear however, that another state is waiting to charge him with murder or is going to do so, and they have a witness.

If he gets out, he will be the first serial killer every released.

[pete anderson]

Harris County DA Big Johnny Holmes should have taken care of business twenty years ago.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Betcha the jail groupies are lined up to marry him.

[thegreatbeast]

But on the day Watts was set to go to trial, a deal was struck with the Houston district attorney.

Have you noticed this about a lot of stories? When things go badly all of a sudden these arrangements are made by a faceless, nameless district attorney. If there were any glory to be gotten the man would have a name.
Well, he should be named so that he can face the music of public censure.

[pete anderson]

nameless district attorney...

His name is John Holmes and yes he is a Republican.

[weegee]

Gary Graham had celebrity advocates.

[MassRepublicanFlyersFan]

Michigan is the other state.

[weegee]

HOUSTON PING

[MassRepublicanFlyersFan]

Mumia Abu-Jamal perhaps?

[thegreatbeast]

It wasn't given in the story though, was it?

[Jaysun]

"At the time, it seemed a moot point, because everyone assumed Watts would die in prison an old man. But a series of court rulings changed that. As a first-time offender, Watts was granted time off for good behavior – three days off his sentence for every day served. So instead of serving a 60-year sentence, under Texas law, Watts would automatically be released after just 24 years.

Is there no end to the destruction the courts will shower on us? This is absurd. I'd like to take a bad electrical cord and a bucket of water and send this nut to hell.

.

[pete anderson]

I am not all that sure about Gary Graham. I have read both sides of the Graham controversy and it is hard to tell who is telling the truth. But the last thing Texas needs to do is execute someone for a crime he did not commit.

[pete anderson]

No, I was living in Houston at the time and Holmes was the DA.

[Allegra]

I remember when that creep was on the loose.

I was a very young adult, new to Houston and bodies were turning up in dumspters and other such places not far from where I lived. Bodies of young adult women.

I had a roommate then and both of us were rather nervous.

[thegreatbeast]

Thanks, My point is that in this story they don't think it's worth it to give us the name of the stupid public servant who could strike such a deal with a serial murderer.

[weegee]

You have your doubts that Gary Graham was on a murderous crime spree?

[Bandaneira]

A serial killer profiting from their heinous crimes is a terrible injustice. Unfortunately every country has had its share of serial killers.

[pete anderson]

I simply question whether or not he actually killed the person he was convicted of killing. However, it is likely that he may have killed others and without question Graham was bad news.

For me the bottom line is that executing people who are Innocent is the worst thing that can happen for the pro death penalty forces.

Thus far Texas has had to release eight people from death row because they were found to be innocent. Just last week Ernest Willis was freed after spending 17 Rodeos on Texas Death Row.

At some point you have to realize that the system is broken and fix it. Until then, you will risk executing someone who is innocent.

[dougherty]

I don't recall any celebrities supporting Watts. Perhaps you're thinking of Gary Graham? He had quite a few celebrity supporters.

[Schnucki]

Would Kerry agree that this guy should go free?

This would have made a great debate question.

Somebody ought to put this question to both Kerry and Bush.

[Squantos]

When was this guys murder spree and did he work the DFW area too ?

No doubt the DOJ is using the Homer Edition of XP these days in keeping tabs on criminals......

Stay safe !

[texasflower]

Clarence Brantley was the janitor at the high school or something like that?

You have a good memory. I had forgotten about this case.

[Allegra]

When was this guys murder spree and did he work the DFW area too ?

It was in the early 80s. I was just a young thing living in the Sharpstown area (back when it was nice there) and he was hitting that SW area of Houston pretty hard.

I'm not sure if he hit the DFW area, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was working that area too.

[texasflower]

Ah. That's the one. Gary Graham.

Thank you. That is the one I was thinking about.

[texasflower]

No that wasn't the one I was thinking about. Dougherty reminded me that it was Gary Graham.

I don't recall ever hearing about this Mumia Abu-Jamal.

But I'm gonna look it up in a little while. Criminal cases interest me.

[GailA]

We won't have to worry about the DP if sKerry gets elected, he going to declare a moratorium on the federal DP and his judges/justices will soon eliminate it at the state level. We will see a return of the country club glamor slamers too. They are already hard at work trying to over turn 3 strikes laws.

[risk]

As far as the Democrats are concerned, the rule of law is only effective when it's convenient to follow laws. When it's not, and it often isn't, there's always an excuse. Usually it's socio-economic. You see, we're too poor to be good.

[TheMom]

The attempted murder and burglary plea was the only charge they could get a legit conviction on. There was not enough evidence to try him on all the other murders. The plea bargain was such that he would spend the rest of his life in jail. THEN - - along came Judge William Wayne Justice (D), an extremely liberal idiot. He decided to make all sorts of changes to the Texas penal system, one of which was good behavior crap which allowed criminals to be released early. This is why Watts is getting out early.

Michigan has already started pre-trial proceedings. Approx. one month ago Watts was taken to Michigan to answer the charges.

Go here http://www.murdervictims.com/watts.htm for more info.

[TheMom]

http://www.detnews.com/2004/metro/0404/25/metro-132303.htm

[girlscout]

I hear however, that another state is waiting to charge him with murder or is going to do so

I heard the same thing. I believe it's some of that creative prosecuting you sometimes see. Kind of like what's going on with Durst right now.

[MassRepublicanFlyersFan]

As far as Kerry, who knows. Some people are just steadfast in their opposition to the death penalty. I saw another CBS feature recently, a husband/wife were brutally murdered moments after closing a KFC-type establishment they owned. It is commonly known as the "Brown's Chicken Massacre" where seven people were murdered. The early 1990's murders, in a Chicago suburb, went unsolved for years until a female told police an ex-boyfriend admitted to being involved. CBS interviewed three daughters of the murdered couple to discuss their roller-coaster of emotions. The father was a huge McGovern/Kennedy liberal supporter. One daughter is now in politics in Wisconsin if memory serves me correctly. When asked about the death penalty in this case, each said they were still opposed to it.

[MassRepublicanFlyersFan]

Your terminology of "extremely liberal idiot" is redundant (I say jokingly). This seems to be a common theme in these cases.

[jordan8]

The vast majority, virtually all, of Watts' victims were white. It's clear that, particularly in his later sprees, he was hunting white women. Did CBS forget to mention that fact? Did they forget to bring up the possibility of hate crimes? It's part and parcel of the institutionalized anti-white racism that has seen the media ignore (which is to say consciously lie about and sponsor) racist violence against whites since the late 50s, especially the pandemic of racist rape. Virtually all interracial rape has white women and girls as victims, everybody in America understands that, the only places you'll never see that fact mentioned is in the mainstream media and the government. Have you ever seen a news report on the phenomena? A condemning TV drama? A Congressional investigation followed by special hate crimes laws to address the situation? The way the establishment handles interracial violence helps build the Coral Eugene Watts of this world.

Here is the story of Watts. Note how he beat the system time and time again.