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Science turns monkeys into drones - Humans are next, genetic experts say
Ottawa Citizen ^ | October 17, 2004 | Lois Rogers

Posted on 10/18/2004 9:44:16 AM PDT by NYer

LONDON - Scientists have discovered a way of manipulating a gene that turns animals into drones that do not become bored with repetitive tasks. The experiments, conducted on monkeys, are the first to demonstrate that animal behaviour can be permanently changed, turning the subjects from aggressive to "compliant" creatures.

The genes are identical in humans and although the discovery could help to treat depression and other types of mental illness, it will raise images of the Epsilon caste from Aldous Huxley's futuristic novel Brave New World.

The experiments -- detailed in the journal Nature Neuroscience this month -- involved blocking the effect of a gene called D2 in a particular part of the brain. This cut off the link between the rhesus monkeys' motivation and reward.

Instead of speeding up with the approach of a deadline or the prospect of a "treat," the monkeys in the experiment could be made to work just as enthusiastically for long periods. The scientists say the identical technique would apply to humans.

"Most people are motivated to work hard and well only by the expectation of reward, whether it's a paycheque or a word of praise," said Barry Richmond, a government neurobiologist at the U.S. National Institute of Mental Health, who led the project. "We found we could remove that link and create a situation where repetitive, hard work would continue without any reward."

The experiments involved getting rhesus monkeys to operate levers in response to colour changes on screens in front of them. Normally they work hardest and fastest with the fewest mistakes if they think a reward for the "work" is imminent.

However, Mr. Richmond's team found that they could make the monkeys work their hardest and fastest all the time, without any complaint or sign of slacking, just by manipulating D2 so that they forgot about the expectation of reward.

The original purpose of the research was to find ways of treating mental illness, but the technicalities of permanently altering human behaviour by gene manipulation are currently too complex, he said.

However, he and other scientists acknowledge that methods of manipulating human physical and psychological traits are just around the corner, and the technology will emerge first as a lucrative add-on available from in vitro fertilization clinics.

"There's no doubt we will be able to influence behaviour," said Julian Savulescu, a professor of ethics at Oxford University.

"Genetically manipulating people to become slaves is not in their interests, but there are other changes that might be. We have to make choices about what makes a good life for an individual."

In a presentation at a Royal Society meeting titled Designing Babies: What the Future Holds, Yuri Verlinsky, a scientist from the University of Chicago who is at the forefront of embryo manipulation, said: "As infertility customers are investing so much time, money and effort into having a baby, shouldn't they have a healthy one and what is to stop them picka baby for its physical and psychological traits?"

Gregory Stock, author of Redesigning Humans and an ethics specialist from the University of California, agrees.

"I don't think these kind of interventions are exactly round the corner, they are a few years away, but I don't think they are going to be stopped by legislation," he said.


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1 posted on 10/18/2004 9:44:17 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

We already have that. They call it the DNC.


2 posted on 10/18/2004 9:45:02 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the VRWC. --Black Helo crewman. (I operate the Liberal tinfoil hat scanner.)
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“Though it is true that sometimes it is lawful to tolerate a lesser moral evil in order to avoid a greater evil or in order to promote a greater good," it is never lawful, even for the gravest reasons, to do evil that good may come of it (18)—in other words, to intend directly something which of its very nature contradicts the moral order, and which must therefore be judged unworthy of man, even though the intention is to protect or promote the welfare of an individual, of a family or of society in general.”
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3 posted on 10/18/2004 9:46:48 AM PDT by NYer (Where Peter is, there is the Church.)
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"Science turns monkeys into drones - Humans are next, genetic experts say"

don't we have enough democrats?


4 posted on 10/18/2004 9:47:03 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: cpforlife.org; Coleus; Mr. Silverback

Ping!


5 posted on 10/18/2004 9:48:13 AM PDT by NYer (Where Peter is, there is the Church.)
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To: NYer

And why is this even necessary?


6 posted on 10/18/2004 9:48:26 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: NYer
Scientists have discovered a way of manipulating a gene that turns animals into drones that do not become bored with repetitive tasks.

Yeesh. It may well be that we'll see Huxley's "Brave New World" before Orwell's "1984" after all...

7 posted on 10/18/2004 9:51:14 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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I can't believe I'm reading this.

"Genetically manipulating people to become slaves is not in their interests, but there are other changes that might be. We have to make choices about what makes a good life for an individual."

WTF? How about being a whole, unadulterated, human being, flaws and all?

8 posted on 10/18/2004 9:51:24 AM PDT by PurVirgo (Here's a tip: Never weedeat the dog pen with your mouth open.)
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To: NYer

Just what we need. More Democrats.


9 posted on 10/18/2004 9:51:32 AM PDT by RockinRight (John Kerry is the wrong candidate, for the wrong country, at the wrong time)
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To: NYer

BEAUTIFUL! Thank you for posting that - so true!


10 posted on 10/18/2004 9:51:45 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: NYer

I wonder what happened to my post...


11 posted on 10/18/2004 9:52:43 AM PDT by PurVirgo (Here's a tip: Never weedeat the dog pen with your mouth open.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
And why is this even necessary?

Because, even with all our technological advances, the biological brain is still the most sophisticated computer in the world.

12 posted on 10/18/2004 9:52:52 AM PDT by Prime Choice (The Leftists think they can tax us into "prosperity" and regulate us into "liberty.")
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To: NYer

They're so overthinking this. Just turn the task into a videogame.


13 posted on 10/18/2004 9:53:10 AM PDT by jennyp
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To: NYer

R2D2 becomes URD2?


14 posted on 10/18/2004 9:56:22 AM PDT by Old Professer (Fear is the fountain of hostility.)
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To: NYer
it will raise images of the Epsilon caste from Aldous Huxley's futuristic novel Brave New World.

In Brave New World, didn't they create epsilons by administering alcohol to the fetuses?

Ted 'Epsilon' Kennedy

15 posted on 10/18/2004 9:58:01 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (If they couldn't stand up to ...Howard Dean..., how can we expect them to stand up to Al Queda?)
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To: NYer

Was it necessary to post Carville's pic with that post?


16 posted on 10/18/2004 9:58:54 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: NYer

An Epsilon Double Minus Semi-Moron AKA demokrat voter......Remember the Savage......


17 posted on 10/18/2004 10:00:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ask not for whom the Freeper freeps, they freep for thee........)
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To: KarlInOhio

Yes! A little too much alcohol in the bottle and you wound up with a moron!....


18 posted on 10/18/2004 10:02:15 AM PDT by Red Badger (Ask not for whom the Freeper freeps, they freep for thee........)
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To: NYer

Was it necessary to include Carville's pic with your post? Right at lunchtime, too.


19 posted on 10/18/2004 10:02:17 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: PurVirgo
"WTF? How about being a whole, unadulterated, human being, flaws and all?"

Right. And who is the "we" who's going to do the choosing?

Carolyn

20 posted on 10/18/2004 10:03:01 AM PDT by CDHart
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