Skip to comments.Kerry Military Discharge Deception
Posted on 10/18/2004 11:21:57 AM PDT by kattracks
John Kerry is a thoroughly reprehensible person. When Lynn Cheney commented on Kerry, she said, This is not a good man. she was articulating a truism that sadly was a grossly inadequate means of describing the loathsome presidential wannabe.
I recently got a note from my old Battalion Commander asking if there is any substance to the controversy surrounding Kerrys military discharge. I responded, You damnbetcha! I have previously written about questions surrounding Kerrys discharge (9/10/04 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/9/9/154130.shtml) and the ginned up DD214 (8/23/04 http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/8/23/95437.shtml). The growing conventional wisdom (in military circles) is that Kerry GOT a discharge but it was other than honorable. He subsequently got Clinton to sign the fix in 2001. HOWEVER, the more egregious aspect is his having been subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice when he met with the commies in Paris. THAT was and is chargeable! Reportedly, after the slug told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents, some senior Department of Defense types actually wanted to prosecute him. He was a Naval Reserve officer who had violated an excrement pot full of assorted laws and regulations.
However, the paranoid, dysfunctional Nixon White House allegedly didnt want to fuel the anti-war gang rhetoric and so they made the strategic and tactical error of ignoring the obvious.
The Navy was p.o.-ed too. They yanked Kerrys security clearance when it became axiomatic he was a Naval Reserve officer not to be trusted. One retired agent reportedly observed, Lieutenant Kerry wasnt cleared to know what time it was!
The reason Kerry refuses to sign Standard Form 180 and release ALL his records (over a hundred pages still under wraps), doesnt have jack to do with medal inflation and hyperbolized heroics.
President Bush, former Vice President Gore, Senator McCain and others have authorized release of their records ... Kerry wont!
Kerrys Honorable Discharge some 30 years after his end of service (March 2001) is suspicious because it is so out of the ordinary.
There are five classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. It smells like Kerrys first discharge was probably no better than a General discharge.
It has been suggested (and probably true) that the sandbagged records are loaded with appeal efforts and reports of his having provided aid and comfort to the enemy.
The mainstream co-conspirator/enablers media will not be able to ignore THIS elephant in the living room forever. Oh, they will try .... but if you think Clinton was harassed for sexual improprieties with an intern; get ready for a coordinated Military community Tsunami over Kerrys FULL military record. The Monica mess will compare to a small yellow hole in a Montana snow bank when contrasted with the Kerry conundrum.
- When Kerry went to Paris in the summer of 1970, he claimed it was for his first honeymoon with heiress #1.
- He met with assorted communists to engage in extensive discussions about plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to surrender to Vietnam WHILE HE WAS CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED AS A NAVAL RESERVE OFFICER.
- Kerrys covert lobbying were never reported to the Navy.
- Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
- As a commissioned officer, he was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war.
- Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
- Kerry claimed to be a war criminal on national television. The U.S. Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemy!
The details of Kerrys military record disaster have been floating through cyberspace for a couple of months thanks to A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team.
I called Steve to confirm he had authored the initial litany. You can check out his other efforts at http://www.authentiseal.org Thomas Lipscomb is adding to the compendium in the New York Sun http://www.nysun.com/article/3107.
Lipscomb observed Woodrow Wilson sent former presidential candidate Eugene Debs to prison for even demonstrating for peace negotiations with Germany during World War I.
Ambrose Bierce once observed, The hardest tumble a man can make is to fall over his own bluff. John Kerrys fall is sure to rival Humpty Dumpty.
Thank you for posting this. Geoff does a good job. I wish he was still on KSFO560 (SF CA).
Traction - gaining.
Nationwide TV Scedule for Stolen Honor is at:
Let's spread the word and try to get undecided voters, independents, and receptive Democrats to watch the program.
One thing that has occurred to me that when I left the Navy in '74, because I had a clearence and worked as an EW, I had to sign a paper that said I would not leave the country without informing the DOD (or USN?). I'm sure Kerry had to do the same as he was a CIC watch officer with a TS. Wonder if that is what they got him on.
And yet, many Americans seem to think that he'll make a good president. *shaking head*
"Good grief, he's a traitor AND a convict. He should have been shot, or at the least been given life without parole. This leaves me to believe that Kerry is either THE antichrist, or antichrist Jr. LOL"
John Kerry is the Junior Anti Christ from the state of Taxechusettes.
Grow little fella, grow quickly!
He's out there bringing up Viet Nam again, telling the crowds how he shed blood for his country. I pray that this discharge story really grows some legs.
Bump for later bookmark
sKerry will NEVER release his military records and mrs. sKerry will NEVER release her income tax records. And if by some chance, God forbid, that these two reprensible Bubba & Hill'y remakes take the WH, we can kiss our country down the tubes.
"so anything that they had on Kerry should be available for viewing at least. When you consider the relationship between presidents Putin and Bush, I would imagine that those documents or files could be released rather quickly."
Excellent idea. Anybody read Russian? Putin today endorsed Bush.
IMO should not come from the Bush camp, however. I'm sure there are retired Intel officers/specialists who know Russian. I just saw a write up in a magazine about an officer who knows fluent Russian, which helped him in his assignment in Iraq. But an active duty guy could not do it.
Another possibility is the Stasi files of the former East Germany. They are accessible, but I don't remember what the rules are. I'm trying to remember the present name of the agency which controls access to them.
I certainly hope they are leaked, like the Petagon papers were. Personal privacy is NOT the issue here. We have a RIGHT as voters to understand the full facts of this man's military service. If absurd PC laws (mostly created by Democrtic administrations) are in the way some one needs to VIOLATE them.
I know as conservatives this is not our first instinct, nor should it be. But there does come a time when it becomes the right thing to do to violate bad laws.
I firmly believe this is such a time.
Should Kerry win, and these records have not been made public, they should be at that time. Bush should pardon whoever releases them. At that point it's not a "dirty trick" the campaigns over. It's a simple warning to the American people. See what you have done! Beware.
"There are five classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. It smells like Kerrys first discharge was probably no better than a General discharge."
I would argue that is was worse. I would argue that it was an Other than Honorable discharge at best. The reason is that a General Discharge is automatically upgraded to Honorable in 90 days (at least at present, I assume it was the same then).