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AND YET KERRY WILL CARRY THE JEWISH VOTE
Neal Nuze ^ | 10/19/04 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 10/19/2004 5:41:28 AM PDT by NotchJohnson

AND YET KERRY WILL CARRY THE JEWISH VOTE

Yasser Arafat supports The Poodle. Arafat wants Bush defeated and Kerry in the White House, this according to several Palestinian leaders. Saeb Erekat, one of Arafat's chief negotiators, told World Net Daily that the Palestinian Authority wants a change in who occupies the White House. Another Arafat confidant said that Arafat thinks Kerry would be better for the Palestinian cause.

Here's the oddity. Even if Arafat were to film campaign commercials for Kerry, and accompany him on the campaign trail, Kerry would still carry the Jewish vote in the United States.

Some things just can't be figured out.

Vote for Kerry if you chose. Just remember who will be figuratively slapping you on the back as you cast that vote. Yasser Arafat, for one. The world's Islamic terrorists, for another. Sorry ... facts is facts.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; arafat; bush; ignorance; jewishvote; jews; kerry
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Let's see, what famous American Jews are supporting Kerry? Jon Stewart, Babs, the list goes on and on. There is a reason why American Jews vote liberal, not that it makes sense.
1 posted on 10/19/2004 5:41:28 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: NotchJohnson

It makes sense--"US Jews to Israel: Drop Dead."


2 posted on 10/19/2004 5:43:46 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: NotchJohnson
American Jews living in Israel overwhelmingly support President Bush. Jews in America overwhelming support Democrats. Why?

Just one of my opinions: Jews in Israel fear Muslims more than Christians.
Jews in America fear Christians more than Muslims.

3 posted on 10/19/2004 5:44:49 AM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not event driven, not fact driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: NotchJohnson

American Jews have a death wish. Any American Jew that votes for John Kerry is signing their own death warrant and the death warrants of all the Jews in Israel!!! End of story.


4 posted on 10/19/2004 5:46:03 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: NotchJohnson

"Arafat wants Bush defeated"

So do Kim Jung Il and the Iranian Regime and Chirac.


5 posted on 10/19/2004 5:46:10 AM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: Mamzelle

Considering that Kerry is a Socialist and that there are a lot of Jews in America that are Socialists, it doesn't sound strange to me, but consider the following.

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/


6 posted on 10/19/2004 5:46:36 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: bayourod

Jews in America = "too smart by half"


7 posted on 10/19/2004 5:46:38 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: NotchJohnson
Don't forget that John Kerry himself has recently "found" his own Jewish heritage.
8 posted on 10/19/2004 5:49:27 AM PDT by gdc61
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To: stockpirate

Well, Israel is largely socialist...why can't they love Israel?


9 posted on 10/19/2004 5:49:36 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: Mamzelle
It makes sense--"US Jews to Israel: Drop Dead."

You are an expert on American Jews? Reagan got 40% - Bush will do better than that. Better to worry about all those stay-at-home Christians who almost lost it for Bush in 2000.

10 posted on 10/19/2004 5:49:37 AM PDT by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: NotchJohnson
Relax, old habits die hard. Baby steps. Bush will do better with the Jewish vote this year than in 2000.
11 posted on 10/19/2004 5:50:06 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Mamzelle
Well, Israel is largely socialist...why can't they love Israel?

Read the news much? Israel is not only not socialist, but it hasn't been for many years. Recently Netanyahu has successfully lowered taxes, cut pensions, and created a much more business oriented capitalistic society in Israel. If that were not so, Israel would not have the booming entrepreneur class that it does.

12 posted on 10/19/2004 5:54:09 AM PDT by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: OldFriend
Jews in america hate america and see the US as the cause for all that's wrong in the world.

Socialists in America hate America and see the US as the cause for all that's wrong in the world. Some of the socialists are Jewish.

I'm willing to paint with a broad brush when discussing socialists (they are all scum) but broad statements about Jews are likely to be inaccurate.

14 posted on 10/19/2004 5:57:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: veronica
Repeat: "US Jews to Israel: Drop Dead."

They've forgotten Israel and Jerusalem. They are ASHAMED of Israel and Jersalem. If you want to say, "not all US Jews", well, fine. Just MOST of them, almost all of them. There are very few conservative Jews who care about the fate of Israel. Israel is an embarrassment to them--the fate of Israel attracts the attention of those icky evangelicals. They bring about the terror of the unfashionable "Zionist" label. Not our kind, dearie.

Sit down with some zip codes of prominent synagogues and do searches on fundrace.org and newsmeat.com. You're going to find donations to Kerry.

Heck, I was sure shocked when I did these searches around a Charleston, SC synagogue (the oldest Jewish community in the US, I believe, in one of the most conservative states in the US)...and found donations to Fritz Hollings...goes to show, if you're a Democrat, you can say any awful thing you want and do any awful thing you want and still get Jewish support. Hollings was the gov in 1961 when the Confed flag was placed on the state capitol.

But I'll be happy to feast on kosher crow if things turn out differently. One can always hope and pray against reasonable evidence.

15 posted on 10/19/2004 5:58:29 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: NotchJohnson

Of course Arafat means no Jewish nor Christian children.

16 posted on 10/19/2004 6:05:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: gdc61
Don't forget that John Kerry himself has recently "found" his own Jewish heritage

Did he find that in Cambodia?

17 posted on 10/19/2004 6:07:04 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Grampa Dave

Is that a real picture or a photoshop?


18 posted on 10/19/2004 6:11:26 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired; PhilDragoo

Ask Phil Dragoo.

It is an older picture of both of them.


19 posted on 10/19/2004 6:13:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Mamzelle
They've forgotten Israel and Jerusalem. They are ASHAMED of Israel and Jersalem.

You don't know jack about American Jews. Jews support Israel overwhelmngly. Stick to what you know, frenchie.

20 posted on 10/19/2004 6:22:31 AM PDT by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"Socialists in America hate America and see the US as the cause for all that's wrong in the world. Some of the socialists are Jewish"

Good job pointing out the flawed syllogism. The syllogism police rock! :)


21 posted on 10/19/2004 6:25:07 AM PDT by fizziwig
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To: NotchJohnson

Neal, here is a little hint: they are Jews in the sense that Ted Kennedy is a Roman Catholic. They have familial ties to the faith, but they really don't believe, hence the support for Kerry.


22 posted on 10/19/2004 6:26:35 AM PDT by Meldrim
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To: veronica
US Jews to Israel: Drop Dead.

I know what I see on the donor lists. If you want to show some surge of support for those who support Israel--you can always post it. Mostly I see claims that appear in opinion pieces, but no real data. Short of that, I sorta doubt that Jews who donate to Kerry are going to vote for Bush.

23 posted on 10/19/2004 6:31:04 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: gdc61
Four clicks on google and anyone can learn that Kerry is half German Jewish. His father was 100% a German Jew. So many German Jews have made such important and lasting contributions to American Culture. They dominate the entertainment industry and have made historic advances in the American and Russian space programs.

Eurabian media institutions must be covering up the Kere (the name adopted by his grandfather Cohen) heritage since most of Eurabis is violently anti-semitic.

24 posted on 10/19/2004 6:31:40 AM PDT by i.l.e. (is lurking enough ? ......We have a Progressive Press)
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To: NotchJohnson

As I've said before, the jews in America would rather be in control of the wrong party, than be foot soldiers in the right one.


25 posted on 10/19/2004 6:35:24 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: NotchJohnson
I think there is a difference between nationality and faith! Not all Jews...Babs etc...are of the Jewish Faith. Secular votes for skerry should come as no surprise from any Nationality but I honestly don't understand how ANY freedom loving American could vote for skerry when you see endorsements like Arafat's.
26 posted on 10/19/2004 6:35:51 AM PDT by Woogit
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To: bayourod
American Jews living in Israel overwhelmingly support President Bush. Jews in America overwhelming support Democrats. Why?

Historical demographic voting patterns are extremely difficult to change. American Jews vote Democrat largely because their parents did. That is changing, albeit very gradually. BTW, this effect applies to the black vote as well.

Look for the Jewish vote to gradually shift to the GOP over the next decade, as it bcomes increasingly clear who supports a war against radical Islam and who doesn't.

27 posted on 10/19/2004 6:38:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Mamzelle

Did you know that not all Jews in NAZI Germany were locked up? Some worked with the NAZI's to further the Socialist agenda.


28 posted on 10/19/2004 6:40:29 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Woogit

Blood is thicker than water. Four clicks on Google will show that Kere ( his grandfathers chosen new name) is half German Jewish and that no amount of religosity can change his DNA. Once a chosen race....


29 posted on 10/19/2004 6:43:27 AM PDT by i.l.e. (is lurking enough ? ...Get a Progressive Press)
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To: Cincinatus

In Israel the old Zionist-Labor movement of Russian and East European derivation has lost most of its drive. Nevertheless, America's Jewish Left, dominated by families who also trace there history to immigrants from Russia and Eastern Europe, continues to adhere to an atheist-Marxist agenda that ruled Israel until Begin came along.

Observers note History repeating itself: A new generatioon of "Red Diaper Babies" has appeared on campus and is determined to maintain the leftward course of American Jewish politics.


30 posted on 10/19/2004 6:49:35 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: NotchJohnson
As an American Jew living in New York and I can explain quite simply. Jews have a tendency to be liberal simply because historically liberalism has preached toleration. It has been a defense mechanism against what they perceived as the greater threat. Israelis on the other hand live in a different environment where they can not afford to not be proactive. Inactivity against your enemy for Israeli's would mean death.

U.S. Jews on the other hand do not understand this threat and believe that the U.S. will protect Israel from any aggression should Israel accommodate the Arabs. Unfortunately, the U.S. Jews are terribly mistaken, because once that dog is invited in the house, he is not leaving. He will be doing everything in his power to drive you out, and the U.S. will be powerless to do anything about it because you invited him in.

The biggest mistake the U.S. Jews make is that antisemitism is spreading rapidly everywhere - even here in the U.S. We feel safe here in the U.S. and believe "it will never happen again", but this laisez-faire attitude will get us killed in the long-run.

There are only some 14 million Jews in the entire world and we do hold a disproportionate amount of power based on our numbers. This has been necessary in order to insure our survival. But it also takes great balance because misuse of that power can also be devastating to the Jewish people. As a result of this power there are a large number of people who use this information to slander the Jews. What they do not realize is that while the Jews have a disproportionate amount of power, if you pay attention you will notice it is not used aggressively. On the other hand it is primarily used to help other minority groups and to buy a seat at the table with the real power holder in the western world - the Protestants.

Unfortunately for the Jews who vote Democratic they are in for a rude awakening in the years to come as the Democratic Party emerges as the anti-Israel party. It is already happening and these U.S. Jews will have to come to decide whether they are Jewish or Democrat.

On the conservative side, we have to understand that our biggest ally in the U.S. wants to see us die on their behalf after their second coming. We all lie with dogs.

31 posted on 10/19/2004 6:57:15 AM PDT by NYCRebublican (We all lie with Dogs.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
32 posted on 10/19/2004 7:12:19 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: Mamzelle
Heck, I was sure shocked when I did these searches around a Charleston, SC synagogue (the oldest Jewish community in the US, I believe, in one of the most conservative states in the US)...and found donations to Fritz Hollings...goes to show, if you're a Democrat, you can say any awful thing you want and do any awful thing you want and still get Jewish support. Hollings was the gov in 1961 when the Confed flag was placed on the state capitol.

Why would Jews, in Charleston of all places, object to the Confederate flag flying over the state capitol? Are you somehow under the misaprehension that southern Jews supported the north? The only Jewish military cemetary in the world outside of Israel is in Virginia. Charleston could have established one as well.

33 posted on 10/19/2004 7:17:08 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: NotchJohnson

Some things just can't be figured out......

It's actually pretty simple.

It's easier for American jews to stay in the DNC Ghetto than summon up the mental energy required to leave.


34 posted on 10/19/2004 7:21:25 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: SJackson
Charleston already has the oldest Jewish cemetary in the country--worth a visit. Fritz Hollings isn't known just for his activities during his governorship, for which he's never been called to account, but for his recent comments about Bush and the Jews--which would have gotten him slapped for an antisemite if he were not in the Democrat corner. No less than Inez Tennenbaum's husband (Jewish, though Inez is not) had to come out and provide Fritz with cover after his most recent episode. Always willing to help...

Jews did indeed own slaves, but did not do it very comfortably in the Old South. Not nearly as comfortably as did the gens libre du coleur.

35 posted on 10/19/2004 7:22:47 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: veronica

I was talking to a childhood friend of mine the other day who is jewish and not totaly secular but she also works in the entertainment Industry, any ways she asked me who I was voting for and I said of course GW and she said
Are you crazy! I said OKAY you are voting for Kerry WHY? and she told me because many at her work the Sony Studio lot say that he is just like his dad who kissed up to the ARABS for oil and caused many of the problems Israeli's have endured?

I said huh? But I can't discount what she said because my own mother feels the same way, many seem to dislike GW's dad and maybe are taking it out on him...

I'm still voting GW


36 posted on 10/19/2004 7:22:53 AM PDT by missyme
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To: veronica
Better to worry about all those stay-at-home Christians who almost lost it for Bush in 2000

You gettum girl!

37 posted on 10/19/2004 7:26:05 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NYCRebublican
On the conservative side, we have to understand that our biggest ally in the U.S. wants to see us die on their behalf after their second coming

Not sure I understand what you are saying here, can you explain further?

38 posted on 10/19/2004 7:32:17 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NYCRebublican

Thanks for the well thought out post. The word toleration refers to putting up with something. That is why tolerance is a sham. I tolerate my nieghbors weiner dog takinga dump on my lawn. Does Israel plan on accomodating Arabs? What do you mean by accomodation? I think the post below is right. I am Catholic in name adn in practice. So many Catholics (ie Kerry, Kennedy) use the name and it is a shame that some of the most prominent "Catholics" go against everything the Pope says.


39 posted on 10/19/2004 8:08:17 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: NotchJohnson

Easily explained - John Edwards. I've been working in personal injury firms for the past 20+ years and large malpractice cases are the lawyers' bread and butter. Most Jewish professionals tend to be lawyers. I often wondered how some of my past bosses would vote - their conscience (Israel) or their pocketbook. No shock there.


40 posted on 10/19/2004 8:12:05 AM PDT by Right in Wisconsin
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To: NotchJohnson

This is suicidal.


41 posted on 10/19/2004 8:13:31 AM PDT by desherwood7
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To: SJackson

I would like to be on it. Please & Thank you.


42 posted on 10/19/2004 8:15:29 AM PDT by desherwood7
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To: SittinYonder

How can he say he is Cathoilic while also being Jewish?


43 posted on 10/19/2004 8:21:13 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: SJackson; veronica
From this thread alone:

American Jews have a death wish.

Jews in america hate america and see the US as the cause for all that's wrong in the world.

the jews in America would rather be in control of the wrong party, than be foot soldiers in the right one.

Did you know that not all Jews in NAZI Germany were locked up? Some worked with the NAZI's to further the Socialist agenda.

It's easier for American jews to stay in the DNC Ghetto than summon up the mental energy required to leave.

With sentiments like this, why wouldn't Jews feel welcome in the Republican Party? </sarcasm>

44 posted on 10/19/2004 8:22:23 AM PDT by malakhi
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To: NotchJohnson

I guess I'm confused. I thought Catholic alter boys were all Jewish.
(/s)


45 posted on 10/19/2004 8:30:45 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: malakhi
With sentiments like this, why wouldn't Jews feel welcome in the Republican Party?

If someone's wavering, you're right, they'd stay at home and vote for the Dem.

46 posted on 10/19/2004 8:32:11 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: NotchJohnson
And yet Kerry will carry the Muslim vote.

And yet Kerry will carry the black vote.

And yet Kerry will carry the Hispanic vote.

And yet Kerry will carry the gay vote.

And yet Kerry will carry the elderly vote.

And yet Kerry will carry the union vote.

And yet Kerry will carry the female vote.

47 posted on 10/19/2004 8:36:10 AM PDT by stockstrader
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To: nuconvert
"Arafat wants Bush defeated"

People want ice water in hell, too!

48 posted on 10/19/2004 8:41:05 AM PDT by SlightOfTongue
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To: malakhi
My favorite response
49 posted on 10/19/2004 8:49:59 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: SJackson

That is awesome! Link saved for future reference. :o)


50 posted on 10/19/2004 8:55:13 AM PDT by malakhi
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