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Jimmy Carter: American Revolution Was 'Unnecessary'
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Posted on 10/20/2004 10:18:10 AM PDT by lnbchip

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To: atomicpossum
WORST EX-PRESIDENT EVER TOO
101 posted on 10/20/2004 11:51:54 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax
WORST EX-PRESIDENT EVER TOO

Yeah, but I hear he's a helluva drywall subcontractor.

102 posted on 10/20/2004 11:52:54 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: atomicpossum

LOL


103 posted on 10/20/2004 11:54:26 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: freepertoo

Oh! You naughty, naughty, FReeper!!! (snort!)


104 posted on 10/20/2004 11:54:46 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The demeaning of America's morale... Why can't people see it's "an inside job?")
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To: lnbchip
THE killer rabbit:

http://www.narsil.org/politics/carter/killer_rabbit.html

105 posted on 10/20/2004 11:55:40 AM PDT by Sloth ("Rather is TV's real-life Ted Baxter, without Baxter's quiet dignity." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Aquinasfan

You are not sure if WWI, Korea, and Vietnam were bloodier than the Iraq War? You need your head examined.


106 posted on 10/20/2004 11:57:27 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Serb5150

107 posted on 10/20/2004 12:00:00 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Reagan Man

Jimmuh Carter proves once again why he's an idiot.

Carter has no sense of history and human nature, nor does he understand the first thing about politics. Nuff said.

My thoughts exactly.

Jimmy,
Please fade away gracefully. Making an ass of yourself reflects poorly on the US. Your partisanship has infected your brain's thinking centers. Seek help immediately, ... and quietly.


108 posted on 10/20/2004 12:11:05 PM PDT by playball0
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To: Phantom Lord
You are not sure if WWI, Korea, and Vietnam were bloodier than the Iraq War?

No, the Revolutionary War. I'm not sure that the Korean War and the Vietnam War were bloodier than the Revolutionary War as a percentage of the population.

109 posted on 10/20/2004 12:13:07 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: WoodstockCat
Jimm'ity makes me ill. And he has been on TV etc so much lately!

BUT.... after GW wins Jimm'ity and Lurch will fade away as a bad memory....oh no ....I just remembered there will probably be months of "Bush stole the election" and law suits...unless GW wins by a large margin.

Every time I hear Jimm'ity I have to ask God to forgive me for what I am thinking...not even Clinton has that effect on me. I literally thought the other day when I heard him on TV , "I wish he would just drop dead".
110 posted on 10/20/2004 12:13:16 PM PDT by free_life (A)
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To: WoodstockCat
Jimm'ity makes me ill. And he has been on TV etc so much lately!

BUT.... after GW wins Jimm'ity and Lurch will fade away as a bad memory....oh no ....I just remembered there will probably be months of "Bush stole the election" and law suits...unless GW wins by a large margin.

Every time I hear Jimm'ity I have to ask God to forgive me for what I am thinking...not even Clinton has that effect on me. I literally thought the other day when I heard him on TV , "I wish he would just drop dead".
111 posted on 10/20/2004 12:13:18 PM PDT by free_life (A)
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To: lnbchip

He REALLY means that"HE"is UNNECESSARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!


112 posted on 10/20/2004 12:15:16 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: lnbchip

The more he speaks, the more ignorant he shows himself to be. I can just hear him now, telling the founding fathers that they got it all wrong. Should've listened to him, by golly!


113 posted on 10/20/2004 12:15:33 PM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: lnbchip

You can shut up now, peanuts-for-brains!! You already have the Nobel Peace Prize!


114 posted on 10/20/2004 12:18:59 PM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: AnAmericanMother

So I have you to blame for waiting in those odd day even day gas lines when I was eight years old.(Just Kidding) He did make my mind up early though, my parents were always praising Reagan during the 80 election.


115 posted on 10/20/2004 12:42:00 PM PDT by weshess (Vegetarian is an Indian word for lousy hunter)
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To: lnbchip

Maybe Carter has Alzheimers. Either that or he's insane. He's talking like he has lost control of his faculties.


116 posted on 10/20/2004 12:45:03 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: lnbchip

Are there words to describe this idiot? It turns out he is not only the worst president, but also the dumbest.


117 posted on 10/20/2004 12:47:02 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: lnbchip

I thought he said the Civil War was unnecessary.


118 posted on 10/20/2004 12:47:53 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: lnbchip
Had the British Parliament been a little more sensitive to the colonials' really legitimate complaints and requests the war could have been avoided completely, and of course now we would have been a free country now as is Canada and India and Australia, having gotten our independence in a nonviolent way.

The vocabulary of "sensitivity" is very Jimmy Carter and late 20th century, but haven't a lot of scholars and writers expressed just this very opinion? If you believe that unjustified British actions caused the war, what's wrong with saying that different actions on the part of the British government could have avoided it?

119 posted on 10/20/2004 12:49:14 PM PDT by x ("Most quarrels are inevitable at the time; incredible afterwards." E. M. Forster)
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To: lnbchip

So according to Carter, there probably were prominent Parliamentarians over in London saying, "We just need to give the colonists more time"


120 posted on 10/20/2004 12:59:01 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: lnbchip
Note to Jimmy: Canada did not begin to gain independence until 1867. Australia did not receive partial independence as a commonwealth until 1901. India did not gain independence until 1947, and all the Indians who were killed by the British would hardly describe their deaths as "nonviolent."

Would any of them have received independence if one group of colonies had not stood up and shown the world what freedom and courage could be?

Shalom.

121 posted on 10/20/2004 1:01:23 PM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: lsee
When he shakes his head, I bet it rattles....

No, but if he shakes it fast enough you can hear a whistle.

Shalom.

122 posted on 10/20/2004 1:03:36 PM PDT by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: x

Two preemptive caveats: first I think the big gaffe here is Carter neglecting to include the Civil War in his analysis.

Second, the Revolutionary War was both a good and VITAL thing when it comes to the promotion of liberty and representative government throughout the word (reference Reagan's various "city on a hill" speeches and comments).

In regards to Carter's take on the Revolution being unnecessary, had Parliament been more accomidating to the colonists, he has a good point. I recently read Caleb Carr's essay "William Pitt the Elder and the Avoidance of the American Revolution," in the book "What Ifs? of American History: Eminent Historians Imagine What Might Have Been" and found it to be a compelling case of what might have been ... IF a series of admittedly unlikely (in some cases HIGHLY unlikely) events had either occured, or not occured.


123 posted on 10/20/2004 1:10:50 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Reagan Man

It is amazing isn't it? How can this man, who can talk with authority about nuclear engineering be so lacking in common sense, and basic knowledge of the political process? I remember when I was a kid, I was so proud to have a Georgian in The White House. Now, I am ashamed that he and I hail from the same state. What a complete idiot. What I suspected then is true now. He's the biggest (female anatomy description) ever to reside at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.


124 posted on 10/20/2004 1:22:30 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: kellynla

it's called ( ORALFOOTILITIS )


125 posted on 10/20/2004 1:28:18 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
OMG, I am so ashamed.

I actually voted for this man in '76. I was young and stupid (I had JUST reached voting age, first election I ever voted in), I was away at college so I was out of touch, and he was going to carry Georgia regardless of whether I voted for him or not (by over 500,000 votes), but the mere thought of my idiocy makes me turn hot and cold all over and swear under my breath.

Mea maxima culpa, y'all. I had no idea what I was doing.

Well, I'll require a pecan pie if I'm to forgive you. Mea culpas don't go to good with ice cream. :^)

PS...I doubt you were ever "stupid", just uninformed.

126 posted on 10/20/2004 1:30:08 PM PDT by jla
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To: lnbchip

Run away! Run away!

127 posted on 10/20/2004 1:33:45 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Please God...deliver us from "President Kerry!")
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To: jla

Well I was uninformed for sure, but I think most 18 year olds are pretty stupid. :-D


128 posted on 10/20/2004 1:45:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: lnbchip

Hard to believe our country survived him being President for 4 years. Incredible.


129 posted on 10/20/2004 1:47:03 PM PDT by Clump
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To: lnbchip

Who let Jimma out of his white room again?

I'm starting to think that Jimma is a work of fiction, but you just can't make this stuff up.


130 posted on 10/20/2004 1:51:03 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: lnbchip
As far as our bloodiest war, um, the War Between the States, and WWII come to mind. Lets see, the war could have been avoided if the Brits were more reasonable. Well, no kidding. What a genius. But they weren't reasonable so we went to war. That's like saying WWII could have been avoided if only Hitler had been more reasonable. Really, how profound. Nothing is more important to Jimmy Carter than avoiding war, nothing. Nothing is worth fighting for. Not even our Liberty, he says right here he would prefer the Crown of England was still our sovereign and we were its subjects, just like our cousins up North. Giving up the most important quality of America, unique in the history of the world.

Here is the American gift to the world that Jimmy Carter would deny to all mankind...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

I hate this guy more than he hates America.

131 posted on 10/20/2004 1:55:54 PM PDT by znix
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To: lnbchip
I think another parallel is that in some ways the Revolutionary War could have been avoided. It was an unnecessary war.

Are you sure that he REALLY said that? It's just plain stupid. Maybe he is suffering from some sort of dementia, whether caused by depression, drug side effects, vascular problems, or Alzheimer's. Or maybe he is just letting bad ideology go to his head.

The American Revolution provided the example for nearly all later democratic revolutions, for good (e.g., Serbia, Greece) or for ill (e.g., France). It also provided the impetus for Britain itself to implement democratic reforms (e.g., the abolition of debtor's prisons, due process in the courts). Witnout our revolution, neither Canada nor India would be free, nor would much of anyplace else.

134 posted on 10/20/2004 2:07:15 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kerry is an empty suit, and Soros is his puppet-master!)
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To: lnbchip

"Jimmy Carter: American Revolution Was 'Unnecessary'"

Why didn't he say something when it happend? I mean, he is that old...right?


135 posted on 10/20/2004 2:11:12 PM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: dfwgator

yeah jerry ford was nixon's insurance against impeachment. Didn't work cause demorats would rather wipe out the country rather than take a chance on losing power.


137 posted on 10/20/2004 2:28:03 PM PDT by donmeaker (Why did the Romans cross the road? To keep the slaves from revolting again.)
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To: lnbchip

Carter says that if only Adam hadn't taken that bite, we'd still be living in paradise.

What an idiot.


138 posted on 10/20/2004 2:37:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: freepertoo
It's an argument that doesn't hold water because the founders obviously considered every option before taking the course of action they did. If this had been an option, I'm sure they'd have tried it (and, in fact, negotiations HAD been tried).

I would say so. Each of their lives were at stake once they declared war.

139 posted on 10/20/2004 2:59:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Ptaz

Bugs Bunny quote - seemed appropriate for the victim of the "killer rabbit" attack...


140 posted on 10/21/2004 9:31:14 AM PDT by talleyman (Kriminals for Kerry - Why use a gun to steal when you can use a Democrat?)
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