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[Mortikhi]

ping

[struwwelpeter]

I'm not an expert, I just cut and paste like everyone else here ;-)

Here are Anna Politkovskaya's latest ruminations on Putin and terrorism, if you're interested. This paragraph sort of stands out:

But we did it once, we can disentangle ourselves again. Naturally, I do not want a revolution - I cannot wish this on my nation or on myself. Revolutions do not turn out very well here. But it is also impossible to agree to a political winter which would grip Russia for several decades. I still want to live some more. I would like for my children to live in freedom, and that my grandchildren would be born free.

[Calpernia]

>>>I'm not an expert, I just cut and paste like everyone else here ;-)

Not so :) Here, you are a 'resident expert'. This is a compliment. No you are not expected to have all the answers. But you have excellent insight and perception for where we (ok, me) lack :)

This cute quote you have on your profile?

"Russia is the only country where the past is unpredictable."

The US has fallen victim to this too. I am a victim of the NEA (thank you Kennedy) public school system. History has been edited :(

[TapTheSource]

"Here are Anna Politkovskaya's latest ruminations on Putin and terrorism, if you're interested."

Fascinating link. If have any more on the subject, feel free to post it on this thread.

[struwwelpeter]

Here is her review of Fahrenheit-911, in which she writes on Putin/Bush similarites at length:

Stop. Englishmen are ardent in their mass anti-Americanism - that's why they laugh so hard in the cinema, seeing picture after picture from Bush's life. But what if you just flew in from Russia?

If you just flew in, it's not very funny. The military-political parallels are already too obvious. From words to deeds. From all these "pissing on them" and "to call up the army" as a means for this pissing - to the thousands of victims caused by the "anti-terror war." One and a half hours with the English, gathered in the film auditorium to laugh at Bush, and you increasingly realize that Moore's film was modelled on us. The deeper that the director immerses himself in Bush's twisting of anti-Islamic hysteria throughout the world, with his so-called the "coalition of the willing", the less our thoughts are strictly about Bush and company, and more about our own (president).

Moore certainly doesn't show us that Bush wanted September 11th to happen... But... it came at just the right time. On the eve of September 11th, Bush wasn't legitimate in the eyes of Americans (he received less than a majority of the votes in the elections, and even that was revealed only in Florida where the governor is Bush's brother). Bush's pride is hurt - and Bush needed something like this urgently, something to prove his strength and support his legitimacy. What would this be? War.

And war came to Bush at just the right time.

But how was it with us (in Russia)? Yeltsin appointed his successor, they showed him off to the nation, and he seemed a shadowy person - lacking charisma, lacking ideas, lacking a an explicit record of service to the people. This "Russian Bush" is also unprecedented, semi-selected, with a flawed legitimacy, strategically weak, with strange advisers who come from who knows where, accidental... Where could we go from here without war?

And war came to Putin. At just the right time.

[struwwelpeter]

Another article from Anya's newspaper, with regards to the tedious Khodorkovskiy/Yukos/Dresdner Bank affair:

The attack on Yukos it seems is similar to the cannon shot from the Aurora, and the sale of its greatest asset, Yuganskneftegaz (or more likely, its transfer from one hand of the government to the other), is like the storming of the Winter Palace. People afterwards found themselves waking up in a different country.

There is not just a virtual democracy in our country, but a virtual free market as well. After Yugansk, it is now possible to do anything, even to foreigners. Focus your attention on this - DKW was not simply thrown away, but cynically used and later brushed off. Yes, they made their report, now we will just do it our way.

So, it seems that the western journalists were correct: the Yugansk story is the regime's existential choice. A choice for a closed and opaque economic policy, for something like a subsistence economy with only one milk cow in the form of the gas monopoly.

If this is this case, then the West will treat us like a milk cow. It is likely that Russia will now face many long years of integrating with international business, either through the WTO, or the European Union. Our investment rating, which not too long ago caused such national euphoria, is nothing more than a derivative of the petroleum situation. No businessman will pay attention to this rating, knowing that he can be cast off, or in general simply used like toilet paper.

The end of the Yukos affair, judging from everything, is now at the point of no return. The West will cease to trust the Kremlin's economic policies, and this trust is needed in the long run. To build a mere 'economy of the pipeline', as in Venezuela, no free market is needed. All that is needed is to manage the labor battalions.

[Cindy]

Thank you for the ping Calpernia.

[TapTheSource]

Ping

[Calpernia]

See Peter's link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1252938/posts?page=25#25

[FreedomCalls]

I'll read it later.

[TapTheSource]

Thanks.

[hosepipe]

The russian gov't IS the russian mafia..

[TapTheSource]

"The russian gov't IS the russian mafia.."

Now there is a very profound and insightful thought!!! Looks like someone's catching on ;o)

[struwwelpeter]

This is turning into The Plot to Hijack TapTheSource's Thread.

[TapTheSource]

"This is turning into The Plot to Hijack TapTheSource's Thread."

OK by me. Any and all new info. on any related subject is always welcome...keeps me from stagnating.

[Calpernia]

Not really. I have an odd notion in my head I've not sufficiently be able to shake. I, for some reason, think Putin is an US allie. Regardless as to whether it is for timing convenience.

But I welcome and lend you credit on interpretation.

[struwwelpeter]

Okay, let's really go off on a tangent here ;-)

From a completely unrelated article, but perhaps it explains a bit about those glorious days of Yeltsin-land, when the FSU's KGB/FSB was seducing our government agents.

(In 1991) The 'united and powerful' Soviet Union was already breathing funeral incense, and given an official order to die with the signing of the Belovezhskiy agreement. Belovezh' was preceded the putsch in Moscow, which discredited central authority and returned it to the hands of democratic politicians and the bureaucracy. Political instinct now became the nation's basic instinct. The populace infected itself with politics, and a 'childhood disease' known as town-hall democracy became epidemic. Specialists in the field of psychiatry speculate that such upheavals often lead to a psychopathic society, and mental health problems in many people. Given these conditions, it is possible to introduce any idea whatsoever into the subconscious of the populace.

[TapTheSource]

"In 1991) The 'united and powerful' Soviet Union was already breathing funeral incense, and given an official order to die with the signing of the Belovezhskiy agreement."

Sounds like the author realizes that the death of Soviet Communism was a top down affair. The question remains: why would the Communists sign their own death warrant? I have my own ideas, but I'm curious to find out where you (and sources such as your post above) come down on the subject.

[struwwelpeter]

I, for some reason, think Putin is an US ally.

Putin is a realist. Ascendent militant Islam is not in Russia's short, mid, or long-term interest. Perhaps he identifies with Bush better than Kerry, since a Kerry presidency would be Clinton-redux, with many of the same players. Russians will never forget how Clinton went after Yugoslavia based on a hoax, or how he manipulated Yeltsin.

I suppose you could say they are allies, like France and Germany, though a little more important since they have more resources. France and Germany also saw fit to outfit Saddam and China, but even they aren't crazy enough to help the ayatollahs to go atomic.

With regards to North Korea, it remains to be seen what side he'll come down on.

That said, during these perilous times in Russia, Putin is probably the best man for the job. One can nit-pick him, as you can Bush, but there are really no good choices to run either country right now, other than Putin and Bush.

Putin will continue to place Russian interests ahead of US ones, as he should. When these interests temporarily coincide with ours, yippee. When they don't, vse ravno.

“Nations have no permanent friends and no permanent enemies. Only permanent interests.” - Benjamin Disraeli.

[Fiddlstix]

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