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Charles Krauthammer: Kerry's False Plan for Peace (Peace = sacrifice Israel)
Town Hall ^ | October 22, 2004 | Charles Krauthammer [Washington Post Writers Group]

Posted on 10/21/2004 10:07:06 PM PDT by quidnunc

The centerpiece of John Kerry's foreign policy is to rebuild our alliances so the world will come to our help, especially in Iraq. He repeats this endlessly because it is the only foreign policy idea he has to offer. The problem for Kerry is that he cannot explain just how he proposes to do this.

The mere appearance of a Europhilic fresh face is unlikely to so thrill the allies that French troops will start marching down the streets of Baghdad. Therefore, you can believe that Kerry is just being cynical in pledging to bring in the allies, knowing that he has no way of doing it. Or you can believe, as I do, that he means it.

He really does want to end America's isolation. And he has an idea how to do it. For understandable reasons, however, he will not explain how on the eve of an election.

Think about it: What do the Europeans and the Arab states endlessly rail about in the Middle East? What (outside Iraq) is the area of most friction with U.S. policy? What single issue most isolates America from the overwhelming majority of countries at the United Nations?

The answer is obvious: Israel.

In what currency, therefore, would we pay the rest of the world in exchange for their support in places like Iraq? The answer is obvious: giving in to them on Israel.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: charleskrauthammer; israel; kerry; kerryforeignpolicy; krauthammer
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1 posted on 10/21/2004 10:07:06 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

Don't let the left silence the POWs!!!

"Stolen Honor "Parties"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1252980/posts


2 posted on 10/21/2004 10:09:19 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (These Commies are ruining our country...........WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE)
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To: quidnunc

You'd think Bush's staunchly pro-Israel stand would garner him more support from Jewish Americans in general, and maybe even some prominent Jewish celebrities. I guess abortion rights trumps all for some.

And by 'some' I mean liberals.


3 posted on 10/21/2004 10:12:44 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: quidnunc

LOL! Looks like Kerry has been reading pat buchanan's BS.


4 posted on 10/21/2004 10:14:27 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: quidnunc
BUSH- Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, South Dakota, North Dakota, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indianapolis, Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, Alaska, Wisconsin, Michigan......

KERRY-California, New York, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii, Illinois, Minnesota, Maine, Vermont, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Delaware, Maryland, DC.

TOSS-UPS- Iowa, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida.


BUSH has 281 electoral votes without winning a toss-up. 270 required for victory.

52 electoral votes are up for grabs while KERRY has 205 in his pocket.


How many states did I get wrong???
5 posted on 10/21/2004 10:14:54 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: quidnunc

I'll declare now that if Kerry is elected, Israel will be finished. Thrown to the wolves in the name of liberalism.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 10:15:50 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: Aetius

I can't explain it, and believe me I've tried. I have yelled and hung up on my parents about this subject. Maybe because they're older and, hell, I don't know, I can't understand or excuse them.


7 posted on 10/21/2004 10:16:59 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: quidnunc; Grampa Dave; dennisw; potlatch; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; devolve; F14 Pilot; freedom44; ...


8 posted on 10/21/2004 10:17:07 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: quidnunc

And of course Taiwan.


9 posted on 10/21/2004 10:17:39 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: quidnunc

I agree that Israel will be thrown to the wolves by the Democrats.


10 posted on 10/21/2004 10:18:50 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: quidnunc

"...envision Chamberlain sitting across the diplomatic table from Satan, a dawning realization crossing his face: he has just traded away his soul for the promise of future negotiations..."


11 posted on 10/21/2004 10:18:59 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Aetius

In the debate Bush made the point that he was unpopular in Europe for standing up for Israel. A good column in National Review discusses Jewish support for Israel. It finishes by noting that if Jews vote for Kerry anyway, it will show future Demcocrats they have no need to support Israel and show Republicans they have nothing to gain by doing so.


12 posted on 10/21/2004 10:19:05 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: quidnunc

Another great one from Krauthammer. I've been refreshing the Washington Post site waiting for the new Krauthammer; looks like Townhall got it first : )

BTW, The Jewish Press has endorsed President Bush, and I personally expect an increase in the Jewish vote for President Bush to around 25%. Not terrific, but enough to take Florida.


13 posted on 10/21/2004 10:19:32 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: PhilDragoo

Hi Phil, it just occurred to me that we ought to publicise the fact that Clinton wants to be Sect. Gen of the U.N. if Kerry gets elected!!

That's enough to scare you silly!


14 posted on 10/21/2004 10:24:38 PM PDT by potlatch (Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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To: quidnunc
Astutely prescient observations.

People who really want to know who Kerry is and what he is at his core understand that above all else he is a globalist.

Someone who seeks to curry favor with the UN understands that sacrificing Israel is THE easiest way to accomplish that.

15 posted on 10/21/2004 10:24:41 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Aetius

There are a few like Ed Koch and Ron Silver. But as Dennis Prager says "I have to break it to many of them (older Jews)that FDR is not on the ballot".


16 posted on 10/21/2004 10:27:20 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: PhilDragoo

Both of these are great.

Aren't you pinging me anymore,when you create good stuff like this? ;)


17 posted on 10/21/2004 10:27:31 PM PDT by FairOpinion (GET OUT THE VOTE. ENSURE A BUSH/CHENEY WIN.)
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To: GeronL

I'd put Michigan in Kerry's column. I didn't see New Mexico on your list but I put than in Kerry's column as well. Then if Bush takes Iowa and Florida (which I think he will) the other toss ups don't matter. I think that adds up to 271.


18 posted on 10/21/2004 10:28:37 PM PDT by bellevuesbest
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To: Lord Nelson

It isn't just Israel that will be thrown to the wolves.

WE ALL will be thrown to the terrorists.

Haven't you heard about feeding a crocodile, so it will eat you last?

After the Islamists would take over the Middle East, they will blackmail the entire world with oil, which is, like it or not, the lifeblood of modern economy.

If Kerry gets elected, we better learn which way is Mecca, so we'll know where to face five times a day.

Just think of how the Taliban ruled.


19 posted on 10/21/2004 10:30:02 PM PDT by FairOpinion (GET OUT THE VOTE. ENSURE A BUSH/CHENEY WIN.)
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To: Honestfreedom

I don't think that the President Bush's support for Israel is the result of a pandering attempt to obtain Jewish votes, as you seem to suggest. I think it is heartfelt and based on his religious and ethical make-up. He believes that it is the right thing to do.

Even if President Bush were supporting Israel in order to obtain votes (which I don't believe is the case), I think that the votes that he would have in mind are those of the evangelical Christians. Common belief is that some 4 million evangelicals stayed home in 2000 rather than vote for President Bush.

Liberal Jews, like all liberals, in many cases have a lifetime (and, indeed, generations of lifetimes)of belief in liberalism as a kind of secular religion. Although I myself am a passionate supporter of Israel, I don't think that you can expect lifetime liberals -- regardless of their religion -- to ignore their life and family commitment to liberalism just because of President Bush's support of Israel. Most American Jews have never visited Israel anyway.

I do think that all liberals who plan to vote for John Kerry are pathetically short-sighted for not supporting President Bush because of his fight in the war on terror. In my opinion, this one issue trumps every other issue, as Mayor Koch has said time and again.

Nonetheless, I do expect President Bush to get Jewish support in the upper 30s. I realize that this is higher than the AJC poll which puts support in the mid-20s, but I think that the poll is based on old data.


20 posted on 10/21/2004 10:30:26 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: bellevuesbest

"I'll declare now that if Kerry is elected, Israel will be finished. Thrown to the wolves in the name of liberalism."

This is why I really and truly believe that Bush will win, because God has always protected Israel, just look at your bible, and Kerry won't protect it, but Bush will.


21 posted on 10/21/2004 10:31:01 PM PDT by LegalEagle61
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To: quidnunc

"peace" = Surrender.

We have a choice fight and win or to surrender and die anyway, or wish we were dead.


22 posted on 10/21/2004 10:31:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion (GET OUT THE VOTE. ENSURE A BUSH/CHENEY WIN.)
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To: quidnunc

"He [kerry] really does want to end America's isolation."

we are not isolated, in fact we are the best connected country in the world. who is he talking about being isolated from, god? aliens from outer space? non-heinz ketchup users?

this is the most rediculous statement i have read all day


23 posted on 10/21/2004 10:32:27 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: bellevuesbest

DARN. I think my numbers were off, I was giving Florida to Bush when it supposed to have been a toss-up


24 posted on 10/21/2004 10:32:52 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: bellevuesbest
MICHIGAN

BUSH-47, Kerry-43, Nader-1, undecided-9

I give it to Bush.

25 posted on 10/21/2004 10:33:58 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: bellevuesbest

I messed up the numbers.
BUSH- 259 EV's. KERRY- 205 EV's, 79 EV's up for grabs.




Iowa (7)
New Hampshire (4)

Pennsylvania (21)

Ohio (20)

Florida (27)


If Bush wins any of the Penn, Ohio, Fla, he wins. If he gets Iowa and NH he wins.


26 posted on 10/21/2004 10:38:26 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: Piranha

I never said, and never meant to imply, that President Bush's support for Israel is a political trick to get Jewish votes. I assume it is sincere and in conformity with his overall policies and beliefs. However, the point remains that if his strong support of Israel does not gain him Jewish votes then future Republican politicians would properly conclude that supporting Israel will not gain them Jewish votes. You are probably correct that evangelical Christians are a stronger force of support for Israel than the largely liberal American Jewish population.


27 posted on 10/21/2004 10:41:47 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: quidnunc

Charles Krauthammer - THE man in American Political Discourse.


28 posted on 10/21/2004 10:43:29 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: FairOpinion

Your preaching to the choir. The crocodile quote is from Churchill. In fact those that will feed others come close to being collobarators, which are worthy of far worse than our Islamist enemies IMHO.


29 posted on 10/21/2004 10:49:47 PM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: potlatch



SLICE & DICE       CUT & RUN  
PRE-EMPTOR?    RESPONDER?

















DO YOU PAY ONLY 12½% FED INCOME TAXES?

                   
30 posted on 10/21/2004 10:58:08 PM PDT by devolve ( -HEINZ-KERRY - LIFESTYLES Of The RICH & FLAMING! - http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html --)
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To: txzman

In the effort to beat Kerry and the Left, building coaltions is the key, and as such I welcome the input of Krauthammer, especially in his devestating rebuke of Edwards disgraceful comments about people getting out wheelchairs if Kerry wins. Generally speaking, I agree with Krauthammer.

But I'll never forget his slander of people who think fondly of the Confederate flag as 'racist, redneck, yahoos' that he made after Dean spoke of going after their votes. There were at least two huge problems with that libel -- 1. It accepts the Leftwing notion that there is only one valid view of the Confederate flag; and that is of an inherently racist symbol and that anyone who displays one is a racist. This is of course garbage, and indicative of a malicioius ignorance. 2. Krauthammer was insulting the people most likely to actually vote for his preferred party - the GOP - and the people who are probably dying most disproportionately - rural whites - in the war in Iraq that he so eagerly supported.

So my feelings on the guy are mixed, but I welcome his efforts to beat Kerry.


31 posted on 10/21/2004 10:59:41 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Stellar Dendrite
There coming to get the Jewish. This makes since Kerry is an internationalist. This would be perfect alignment for France......Hell, I'm not Jewish and it ticks me off. Understand this, if Kerry does this or a version of it...count me as just spectator in the bloodshed to follow sad as it may be but many supporters of GWB will not be able to sway them we'll be watching Kerry turn Iraq into a modern Vietnam..Our poor boys and girls.Wrong War wrong time wrong place..how long after a Kerry Win would the Sarges start to hear..: When we going home sarge"? America wants us out. The news the Media will be playing not to long after a Kerry win will be baby death stories to push us out quicker. Think not? then roll the dice and just see. If the Jewish people cannot see they may have their only ally in the world leadership in GWB. Out of office and unable to help them... Then they can take their chances with Barbra Streisand coming to their defense. Or perhaps the faculty of Duke? Columbia? The city of San Fran? No well maybe not....Damn guess you better warm your Nukes up Israel, You'll need em. I hope you join us and GWB we've cetainly earned your trust.
32 posted on 10/21/2004 11:01:07 PM PDT by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: quidnunc

All American Jews wake up, without Bush, there will be no Israel.


33 posted on 10/21/2004 11:01:48 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Hugin

Yes, I momentarily forgot them.

I saw the producer/director of Airplane and Naked Gun on O'Reilly, a guy named Zucker, backing Bush last night because of Israel. He's not a household name like Spielberg, but he did make my favorite comedy of all time in Airplane.


34 posted on 10/21/2004 11:02:57 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: quidnunc

And the American Jews still vote Democrat.


35 posted on 10/21/2004 11:58:34 PM PDT by no dems (NICE GUYS FINISH LAST !!! GET RADICAL.)
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To: quidnunc; All
It's in the Houston Chronicle too.

Kerry's speaking code language for abandoning Israel

36 posted on 10/22/2004 12:16:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: quidnunc

bttt


37 posted on 10/22/2004 2:33:17 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: PhilDragoo
No child left alive, indeed.

I think that Rush has said that sticking the U.N. to us is the only thing that Kerry has been consistent with in his campaign. I think that's right.


38 posted on 10/22/2004 3:17:25 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Aetius

Jackie Mason supports Bush.


39 posted on 10/22/2004 3:52:46 AM PDT by gogogodzilla
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To: Piranha
re: Common belief is that some 4 million evangelicals stayed home in 2000 rather than vote for President Bush.)))

Mostly I've read that here, and find the assertion hard to accept.

40 posted on 10/22/2004 5:15:30 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: television is just wrong
re: All American Jews wake up, without Bush, there will be no Israel.)))

What if the demise of Israel is exactly what the US Jews (mostly liberal) want?

41 posted on 10/22/2004 5:17:27 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: quidnunc; Lando Lincoln; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...

Charles Krauthammer:

...He [Kerry] really does want to end America's isolation. And he has an idea how to do it. For understandable reasons, however, he will not explain how on the eve of an election.

Think about it: What do the Europeans and the Arab states endlessly rail about in the Middle East? What (outside Iraq) is the area of most friction with U.S. policy? What single issue most isolates America from the overwhelming majority of countries at the United Nations?

The answer is obvious: Israel.

In what currency, therefore, would we pay the rest of the world in exchange for their support in places like Iraq? The answer is obvious: giving in to them on Israel...



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42 posted on 10/22/2004 5:31:54 AM PDT by Tolik
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43 posted on 10/22/2004 5:51:26 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: quidnunc

it will not just be Israel....Israel is the canary in the coal mine,next europe,then the U.S.


44 posted on 10/22/2004 8:25:53 AM PDT by rang1995
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To: quidnunc

Prophecy will be fulfilled. I am convinced that
America has been blessed due to our unwavering support for Israel. I pray that we never turn our back or walk away from Israel, but it will happen. The world will turn it's full attention to the elimination of Israel and God has warned that the country will not be eliminated. Those countries who turn against the nation of Israel will receive the full wrath of God. May we continue to stand on her side regardless of world opinion.


45 posted on 10/22/2004 8:45:26 AM PDT by blteague
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To: Aetius

I honestly wonder how supportive American Jews are of Israel. Doesn't it make sense that those who strongly support the right of Israel to exist have already relocated there?


46 posted on 10/22/2004 9:13:55 AM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: GeronL
How many states did I get wrong???

Has Michigan actually flipped that convincingly to Bush?

47 posted on 10/22/2004 9:15:20 AM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Mamzelle

I think you are right. They not only want the destruction of Israel, but the U.S. itself.


48 posted on 10/22/2004 9:17:12 AM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Hugin

Ed Koch has been stellar.


49 posted on 10/22/2004 9:17:17 AM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: BCrago66

Dear BCrago66.

By "the Jewish press," specifically whom do you mean?

Is the support of the Jewish press monolithic?


Thanks,


sitetest


50 posted on 10/22/2004 9:18:32 AM PDT by sitetest (Why does everyone get so uptight about toasted heretics??)
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