Posted on 10/21/2004 10:24:12 PM PDT by crushelits
Unthinkable, say Industry Insiders
There's a Lot of Animosity Toward This Film That Is Very Real,' says One Oscar-Campaign Vet;
but Snub Could Lead to Boycott of Awards
Most Believe 'Fahrenheit' Nomination Tied to the Election
NEW YORK, Oct. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- Despite shattering box-office records and dominating headlines for months, "The Passion of the Christ" and "Fahrenheit 9/11" face real obstacles in the race for an Oscar nomination for best picture. As Senior Writer Sean Smith reports in the current issue of Newsweek, many of the high-placed studio executives, producers, Oscar strategists, publicists and Academy members interviewed think that "Fahrenheit's" chances depend on the results of the presidential election, and all say that a "Passion" best-picture nod is almost unthinkable.
"A lot of older Academy voters, who are largely Jewish, refuse to even see this movie," says one Oscar-campaign vet. "There's a level of animosity toward this film that is very real. When I talk to the members, I hear it over and over and over again." Complicating matters, says one exec, is the sense, fair or not, that Mel Gibson marketed the film as something Hollywood couldn't, or wouldn't, make. "It's a little weird to trash the establishment, and then to come knocking at the establishment's door during awards season."
But if "The Passion" gets shut out, there's a concern that some Christians could protest and -- worst-case scenario -- boycott the Oscars. "The born- agains will come out screaming that it's another case of censorship," says one source. "The whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing about Hollywood will come up again."
Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit" faces an entirely different problem, Smith reports in the October 25 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, October 18). Most insiders believe its fate is inextricably tied to the election -- but they can't agree on whether a Bush or a Kerry win helps Moore the most. If John Kerry wins, 'Fahrenheit' gets nominated," says one exec. "Then it becomes 'the movie that changed the course of American history," and the perception will be that Moore contributed to Bush's loss." Or not. "Its chances are zero if Kerry wins, because then the protest is over and everybody feels better," says another source. And, says one Academy member, "If Kerry loses, it gets nominated as a big 'f--- you' to Bush."
"If Kerry loses, it gets nominated as a big 'f--- you' to Bush."
More like a big 'f--- you' to America.
Actions have consequences.
"The born- agains will come out screaming that it's another case of censorship," says one source. "The whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing about Hollywood will come up again."
Really? Hollywood and Sodom and Gomorrah? I never made the connection before. Amazing.
Pssst - if you don't accept it for an award because of bias against a strongly Christian movie, yes, it IS censorship. And if you accept Michael Moores propaganda mess while cutting out the Passion, well, yes we born agains might end up thinking Hollywood is just a tad biased. And you just might get a boycott on Oscar night.
But the Oscars have already been permanently boycotted by so many people already, and they don't even realize it. I used to watch every single one, but I stopped about 10 years ago. Last year I tried again, but turned it off the moment Billy Crystal started making fun of Bush. I think that was in the first 2 minutes of the broadcast.
Beautiful post!
The Passion of the Christ is truth.
Farenheit 9/11 is fiction.
Bingo!
Amen to that!
Do the ratings on Oscar night matter so much that a Christian boycott is a disaster?
Anyway, IMO The Passion absolutely should be nominated for Best Picture.
Ditto's and AMEN
But wait, I thought that Hollywood was a diverse multicultural society not beholden to one particular group!
Christians would boycott the Academy Awards? Wow! I didn't know we'd ever been invited!
Mel is a mischeivous sort. He could rerelease the Passion of Christ during Lenten season in theatres which would coincide with the Oscars. If he really wanted to stick it to the Oscars he could have a one night showing only or maybe have the tv network premiere ....on Oscar night.
And the acts depicted in Passion changed mankind. What a small little man Moore is.
Amen to that!
Mel needs to pull it from consideration. He doesn't need an award for this. Personally, I think he will get a REWARD for his efforts.
Let's start the boycott now.
If I ever watched the Oscars, it was one time (and, I'm not even sure about that). I guess intentional ignorance is not a noble goal, but I try my best to not even know the winners or even nominees. I'll keep one eye on it this time to monitor the situation with the Passion and F911, but I'll do it half-heartedly.
"Unthinkable, say Industry Insiders
There's a Lot of Animosity Toward This Film That Is Very Real,' says One Oscar-Campaign Vet;
but Snub Could Lead to Boycott of Awards"
Sounds like the perverts in 'Hollywood' are squirming....
Bump
Whatever happened to free speech, even speech you abhor? Oh, I forgot....the 1st Amendment applies only to liberals' speech (snicker). Christians need not apply.
"The Passion" snub is so neat in the way it unmasks the hypocrisy and depravity of Hollywarped liberals.
The same secular Hollyweirdos who went ballistic when "The Passion" became a blockbuster are the self-same individuals who respond to concerns about Follywood's sexually salacious and gratuitously violent output by saying. "It's only a movie (or TV show)."
Hollywarped lefties want us to believe that 24/7 of sexed-up violent TV, movies and music lyrics are not harming kids and not doing irreparable harm to our culture.
Yet these same depraved lefties believe----with the religious fervor of a Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15 sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.
They can't have it both ways.
"Whatever happened to free speech, even speech you abhor? Oh, I forgot....the 1st Amendment applies only to liberals' speech (snicker). Christians need not apply.
"The Passion" snub is so neat in the way it unmasks the hypocrisy and depravity of Hollywarped liberals.
The same secular Hollyweirdos who went ballistic when "The Passion" became a blockbuster are the self-same individuals who respond to concerns about Follywood's sexually salacious and gratuitously violent output by saying. "It's only a movie (or TV show)."
Hollywarped lefties want us to believe that 24/7 of sexed-up violent TV, movies and music lyrics are not harming kids and not doing irreparable harm to our culture.
Yet these same depraved lefties believe----with the religious fervor of a Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15 sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.
They can't have it both ways."
24 posted on 10/22/2004 2:13:16 AM PDT by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
BUMP!!!
I HATE these people, pure and simple.....
The Passion of Christ, the politics, and the nominations aside, can anyone with half a brain even stand to watch 5 minutes of that drivel. It's a gathering of half-witted, self important, self absorbed, overly pampered, and over paid lemmings how honestly believe what they do is socially redeeming. Just listening to their idiotic thank you speeches is nauseating.
IMO, Kerry's biggest mistake, to date, was his negative comments on the blockbuster Passion movie. Kerry said that he was "unsure" about it (Reuters, "Democrat Kerry Urges Caution on 'Passion,' 26 February 2004, by Patricia Wilson). "I don't know," Kerry said when asked if he would see the Mel Gibson film Christians flocked to see.
As a presidential candidate, Kerry's comments are loaded with meaning for the future of America. Kerry's ill-conceived remarks are an unspoken message to believers that Kerry will strengthen secularists power over believers. Kerry's comments are an elitist attack on believers.
Kerry praised foul-mouthed Whoppi Goldberg and went to Hollywood for votes and donations. It's clear Kerry, Hollyweirdos and Dumbocrats are in league against believers, and stand for everything Christians abhor: They worship abortion, the homosexual agenda, and the stripping away of every Christian symbol in America.
By bashing The Passion, Kerry is pandering to Hollywood secularists. In return, Kerry assures religious-hating Hollywood that a Kerry presidency will strengthen Hollywood's chokehold on American culture.
Candidates igonore Christians concerns at their peril. Kerry's comments and his positions on social issues must reach every Christian pastor, church, and group in America. These are the things Christian voters should talk about:
(1) Kerry's comments about The Passion have effectively disqualified him from holding the highest office in Christian America.
(2) Transparently anti-religious candidates do not deserve Christian votes.
(3) Candidates carrying Bibles and going to church (the Clintons) but who vote against everything Christians believe in will not fool Christians.
(4) Protecting the unborn, the sacredness of marriage, and restoring Christian symbols in American culture are very important matters believers want addressed.
Kerry kneels in obeisance to the small cadre of Hollywarped Christian haters who despise everything Christians stand for.
The future of America depends on putting into office the candidate who supports a Christian-based culture.
I've seen the film and the Oscar (considering the source) is unworthy of it. In the unlikely event that one is offered, Gibson should refuse it.
I thought that F 9-11 had been pulled from Oscar consideration?
BUMP
If Kerry wins we will have a lot more to worry about than what picture wins a stupid oscar.
Then the putrid old moldy bigots shouldn't be "Academy voters", huh?
I'm sure it will be nominated, because the controversy would help Oscar ratings. Then the Spielbergs could start bashing it all over again.
Withdraw from the list, and let the ceremony sink into the ratings swamp.
I know how to triangulate this--if they snub the Passion in the noms, boycott them. If they nominate it, petition Gibson to withdraw it from the running.
I love a lose-lose when it's the raving liberals doing the losing.
Hard to believe Passion was envisioned as just an art house film that never was supposed to make any money.
that's ok hollywood...keep alienating mainstream pocketbooks.
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For people's info...once a film has been submitted and nominated you can't withdraw it. Gibson can refuse to accept the award if its given as has been done by other Oscar recipients (George C. Scott for Patton, Marlon Brando for The Godfather)
I guess he was too busy helping his protegee make that Kerry movie for the DN Convention.
So you have to submit the movie for it to be considered? Well, then, Gibson should not submit "The Passion" ... cast not thy pearls before swine.
This is really sad.
Jesus died for them, too.
I thought the Sodom and Ghmorrah thing never went away.
Who cares about awards? Something that's given to you by a bunch of leftwingers isn't worth having anyway. All that matters is which movies did the best at the box office. Jim
This would be great if true but a lot of junk does great box office and many good films don't get a wide enough release to have a chance. The Mel Gibson film is an example of risk taking that paid off but its an exception more then the rule. Sad but true.
What you said. I have no idea what's won best picture, actor, actress, etc. for years. I see what I want to see. I can't believe that H'wood thinks religious Christians boycotting the Oscars would make any difference. It's kind of like surfers boycotting Nebraska.
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