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The Oscars: Giving Best-Picture Nod to 'The Passion of the Christ is Almost...
prnewswire.com ^ | Oct. 17, 2004 | NewsWeek

Posted on 10/21/2004 10:24:12 PM PDT by crushelits

Unthinkable, say Industry Insiders

There's a Lot of Animosity Toward This Film That Is Very Real,' says One Oscar-Campaign Vet;


but Snub Could Lead to Boycott of Awards

Most Believe 'Fahrenheit' Nomination Tied to the Election

NEW YORK, Oct. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- Despite shattering box-office records and dominating headlines for months, "The Passion of the Christ" and "Fahrenheit 9/11" face real obstacles in the race for an Oscar nomination for best picture. As Senior Writer Sean Smith reports in the current issue of Newsweek, many of the high-placed studio executives, producers, Oscar strategists, publicists and Academy members interviewed think that "Fahrenheit's" chances depend on the results of the presidential election, and all say that a "Passion" best-picture nod is almost unthinkable.

"A lot of older Academy voters, who are largely Jewish, refuse to even see this movie," says one Oscar-campaign vet. "There's a level of animosity toward this film that is very real. When I talk to the members, I hear it over and over and over again." Complicating matters, says one exec, is the sense, fair or not, that Mel Gibson marketed the film as something Hollywood couldn't, or wouldn't, make. "It's a little weird to trash the establishment, and then to come knocking at the establishment's door during awards season."

But if "The Passion" gets shut out, there's a concern that some Christians could protest and -- worst-case scenario -- boycott the Oscars. "The born- agains will come out screaming that it's another case of censorship," says one source. "The whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing about Hollywood will come up again."

Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit" faces an entirely different problem, Smith reports in the October 25 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, October 18). Most insiders believe its fate is inextricably tied to the election -- but they can't agree on whether a Bush or a Kerry win helps Moore the most. If John Kerry wins, 'Fahrenheit' gets nominated," says one exec. "Then it becomes 'the movie that changed the course of American history," and the perception will be that Moore contributed to Bush's loss." Or not. "Its chances are zero if Kerry wins, because then the protest is over and everybody feels better," says another source. And, says one Academy member, "If Kerry loses, it gets nominated as a big 'f--- you' to Bush."



TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bestpicture; passionofthechrist; theoscars; thepassion

1 posted on 10/21/2004 10:24:13 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: crushelits

"If Kerry loses, it gets nominated as a big 'f--- you' to Bush."

More like a big 'f--- you' to America.


2 posted on 10/21/2004 10:27:48 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: crushelits

Actions have consequences.


3 posted on 10/21/2004 10:28:37 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: crushelits
Jesus doesn't need anything from Hollywood. When he absolutely stuns mankind by transforming this world (on the expressway to destruction) into His Edenic Kingdom, it is going to make the best ending to a Hollywood movie look like a small child's picture book. And he already got his reward, eternal redemption of fallen man through His atonement on the cross, and the eternal title of King of kings, and Lord of lords.
4 posted on 10/21/2004 10:32:36 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Proverbs 10:30 The righteous shall never be removed: but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.)
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To: crushelits
If John Kerry wins, 'Fahrenheit' gets nominated," says one exec. "Then it becomes 'the movie that changed the course of American history," and the perception will be that Moore contributed to Bush's loss." Or not. "Its chances are zero if Kerry wins, because then the protest is over and everybody feels better," says another source. And, says one Academy member, "If Kerry loses, it gets nominated as a big 'f--- you' to Bush."

The first guy is right. If Kerry wins, it gets nominated (and wins) as a reward to Moore. I honestly don't know what happens if Bush wins. I'm leaning towards nominated and wins, as a big, petulant swipe at the electorate. I would think that scenario is guaranteed, but it depends on if Hollywood actually blames Moore for Kerry's loss. I don't think they will. They shouldn't. Moore has turned out to be pretty irrelevant. Kerry's just a real dud of a candidate.
5 posted on 10/21/2004 10:33:33 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: crushelits

"The born- agains will come out screaming that it's another case of censorship," says one source. "The whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing about Hollywood will come up again."

Really? Hollywood and Sodom and Gomorrah? I never made the connection before. Amazing.

Pssst - if you don't accept it for an award because of bias against a strongly Christian movie, yes, it IS censorship. And if you accept Michael Moores propaganda mess while cutting out the Passion, well, yes we born agains might end up thinking Hollywood is just a tad biased. And you just might get a boycott on Oscar night.

But the Oscars have already been permanently boycotted by so many people already, and they don't even realize it. I used to watch every single one, but I stopped about 10 years ago. Last year I tried again, but turned it off the moment Billy Crystal started making fun of Bush. I think that was in the first 2 minutes of the broadcast.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 10:33:40 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Beautiful post!


7 posted on 10/21/2004 10:37:41 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: crushelits

The Passion of the Christ is truth.

Farenheit 9/11 is fiction.


8 posted on 10/21/2004 10:40:10 PM PDT by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!)
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To: Spanaway Lori

Bingo!


9 posted on 10/21/2004 10:41:26 PM PDT by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Amen to that!


10 posted on 10/21/2004 10:43:49 PM PDT by rotundusmaximus
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To: crushelits
If "The Passion" gets shut out, there's a concern that some Christians could protest and -- worst-case scenario -- boycott the Oscars.

Do the ratings on Oscar night matter so much that a Christian boycott is a disaster?

Anyway, IMO The Passion absolutely should be nominated for Best Picture.

12 posted on 10/21/2004 10:52:45 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Ditto's and AMEN


13 posted on 10/21/2004 11:09:47 PM PDT by Duaine (Peace is our profession....)
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To: crushelits
""A lot of older Academy voters, who are largely Jewish, refuse to even see this movie,"

But wait, I thought that Hollywood was a diverse multicultural society not beholden to one particular group!

14 posted on 10/21/2004 11:17:58 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: crushelits

Christians would boycott the Academy Awards? Wow! I didn't know we'd ever been invited!


15 posted on 10/21/2004 11:19:26 PM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: DB

Mel is a mischeivous sort. He could rerelease the Passion of Christ during Lenten season in theatres which would coincide with the Oscars. If he really wanted to stick it to the Oscars he could have a one night showing only or maybe have the tv network premiere ....on Oscar night.


16 posted on 10/21/2004 11:24:27 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Rastus
If John Kerry wins, 'Fahrenheit' gets nominated," says one exec. "Then it becomes 'the movie that changed the course of American history,"

And the acts depicted in Passion changed mankind. What a small little man Moore is.

17 posted on 10/21/2004 11:25:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Rastus

Amen to that!


18 posted on 10/22/2004 12:04:19 AM PDT by broadway
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To: Prince Caspian

Mel needs to pull it from consideration. He doesn't need an award for this. Personally, I think he will get a REWARD for his efforts.


19 posted on 10/22/2004 12:11:39 AM PDT by des
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To: crushelits

Let's start the boycott now.


20 posted on 10/22/2004 12:18:29 AM PDT by canis major (this space for rent)
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To: canis major

If I ever watched the Oscars, it was one time (and, I'm not even sure about that). I guess intentional ignorance is not a noble goal, but I try my best to not even know the winners or even nominees. I'll keep one eye on it this time to monitor the situation with the Passion and F911, but I'll do it half-heartedly.


21 posted on 10/22/2004 12:25:17 AM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: Liz

"Unthinkable, say Industry Insiders

There's a Lot of Animosity Toward This Film That Is Very Real,' says One Oscar-Campaign Vet;

but Snub Could Lead to Boycott of Awards"


Sounds like the perverts in 'Hollywood' are squirming....


22 posted on 10/22/2004 12:25:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: crushelits

Bump


23 posted on 10/22/2004 1:10:41 AM PDT by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: Just mythoughts

Whatever happened to free speech, even speech you abhor? Oh, I forgot....the 1st Amendment applies only to liberals' speech (snicker). Christians need not apply.


"The Passion" snub is so neat in the way it unmasks the hypocrisy and depravity of Hollywarped liberals.

The same secular Hollyweirdos who went ballistic when "The Passion" became a blockbuster are the self-same individuals who respond to concerns about Follywood's sexually salacious and gratuitously violent output by saying. "It's only a movie (or TV show)."

Hollywarped lefties want us to believe that 24/7 of sexed-up violent TV, movies and music lyrics are not harming kids and not doing irreparable harm to our culture.

Yet these same depraved lefties believe----with the religious fervor of a Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15 sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.

They can't have it both ways.


24 posted on 10/22/2004 2:13:16 AM PDT by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: Liz

"Whatever happened to free speech, even speech you abhor? Oh, I forgot....the 1st Amendment applies only to liberals' speech (snicker). Christians need not apply.


"The Passion" snub is so neat in the way it unmasks the hypocrisy and depravity of Hollywarped liberals.

The same secular Hollyweirdos who went ballistic when "The Passion" became a blockbuster are the self-same individuals who respond to concerns about Follywood's sexually salacious and gratuitously violent output by saying. "It's only a movie (or TV show)."

Hollywarped lefties want us to believe that 24/7 of sexed-up violent TV, movies and music lyrics are not harming kids and not doing irreparable harm to our culture.

Yet these same depraved lefties believe----with the religious fervor of a Tammy Faye Baker---- that a single 15 sec commercial will compel tens of millions of Americans into thousands of stores to buy billions of dollars worth of soap, soup, breakfast cereal and cars.

They can't have it both ways."


24 posted on 10/22/2004 2:13:16 AM PDT by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)



BUMP!!!


25 posted on 10/22/2004 2:14:52 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: crushelits
Do Christian still watch the Academy awards? Not in this home.
26 posted on 10/22/2004 2:15:35 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: crushelits

I HATE these people, pure and simple.....


27 posted on 10/22/2004 2:16:26 AM PDT by cherry
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To: crushelits

The Passion of Christ, the politics, and the nominations aside, can anyone with half a brain even stand to watch 5 minutes of that drivel. It's a gathering of half-witted, self important, self absorbed, overly pampered, and over paid lemmings how honestly believe what they do is socially redeeming. Just listening to their idiotic thank you speeches is nauseating.


28 posted on 10/22/2004 2:18:34 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: crushelits
Boycott a spectacle made up of marxists using the tools of capitalism to wage war against the very same economic system by which they became wealthy.....beyond reason!!!.
29 posted on 10/22/2004 2:37:29 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Kerry and Follywood.....perfect together.

IMO, Kerry's biggest mistake, to date, was his negative comments on the blockbuster Passion movie. Kerry said that he was "unsure" about it (Reuters, "Democrat Kerry Urges Caution on 'Passion,' 26 February 2004, by Patricia Wilson). "I don't know," Kerry said when asked if he would see the Mel Gibson film Christians flocked to see.

As a presidential candidate, Kerry's comments are loaded with meaning for the future of America. Kerry's ill-conceived remarks are an unspoken message to believers that Kerry will strengthen secularists power over believers. Kerry's comments are an elitist attack on believers.

Kerry praised foul-mouthed Whoppi Goldberg and went to Hollywood for votes and donations. It's clear Kerry, Hollyweirdos and Dumbocrats are in league against believers, and stand for everything Christians abhor: They worship abortion, the homosexual agenda, and the stripping away of every Christian symbol in America.

By bashing The Passion, Kerry is pandering to Hollywood secularists. In return, Kerry assures religious-hating Hollywood that a Kerry presidency will strengthen Hollywood's chokehold on American culture.

Candidates igonore Christians concerns at their peril. Kerry's comments and his positions on social issues must reach every Christian pastor, church, and group in America. These are the things Christian voters should talk about:

(1) Kerry's comments about The Passion have effectively disqualified him from holding the highest office in Christian America.

(2) Transparently anti-religious candidates do not deserve Christian votes.

(3) Candidates carrying Bibles and going to church (the Clintons) but who vote against everything Christians believe in will not fool Christians.

(4) Protecting the unborn, the sacredness of marriage, and restoring Christian symbols in American culture are very important matters believers want addressed.

Kerry kneels in obeisance to the small cadre of Hollywarped Christian haters who despise everything Christians stand for.

The future of America depends on putting into office the candidate who supports a Christian-based culture.

30 posted on 10/22/2004 2:55:40 AM PDT by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

I've seen the film and the Oscar (considering the source) is unworthy of it. In the unlikely event that one is offered, Gibson should refuse it.


31 posted on 10/22/2004 3:37:09 AM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: crushelits

I thought that F 9-11 had been pulled from Oscar consideration?


32 posted on 10/22/2004 3:41:23 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Liz

BUMP


33 posted on 10/22/2004 3:45:44 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: crushelits

If Kerry wins we will have a lot more to worry about than what picture wins a stupid oscar.


34 posted on 10/22/2004 3:58:40 AM PDT by isrul
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To: crushelits
"A lot of older Academy voters, who are largely Jewish, refuse to even see this movie,"

Then the putrid old moldy bigots shouldn't be "Academy voters", huh?

35 posted on 10/22/2004 4:06:15 AM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect John Kerry as it's president has forfeited it's right to exist.)
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To: crushelits
If it gets the nomination, we should appeal to Gibson to withdraw it from the list.

I'm sure it will be nominated, because the controversy would help Oscar ratings. Then the Spielbergs could start bashing it all over again.

Withdraw from the list, and let the ceremony sink into the ratings swamp.

36 posted on 10/22/2004 5:22:43 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: crushelits
BTW--when do we know whether or not the Passion has been snubbed?

I know how to triangulate this--if they snub the Passion in the noms, boycott them. If they nominate it, petition Gibson to withdraw it from the running.

I love a lose-lose when it's the raving liberals doing the losing.

37 posted on 10/22/2004 5:26:57 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: Mamzelle
I'm sure it will be nominated, because the controversy would help Oscar ratings. Then the Spielbergs could start bashing it all over again. Spielberg hasn't bashed it at all even though he was asked about it.
38 posted on 11/10/2004 11:39:07 AM PST by Borges
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To: Mamzelle

Hard to believe Passion was envisioned as just an art house film that never was supposed to make any money.


39 posted on 11/10/2004 11:44:48 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: crushelits

that's ok hollywood...keep alienating mainstream pocketbooks.

www.pabaah.com

join us


40 posted on 11/10/2004 11:48:08 AM PST by Jon Alvarez
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To: Mamzelle

For people's info...once a film has been submitted and nominated you can't withdraw it. Gibson can refuse to accept the award if its given as has been done by other Oscar recipients (George C. Scott for Patton, Marlon Brando for The Godfather)


41 posted on 11/10/2004 12:09:42 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

I guess he was too busy helping his protegee make that Kerry movie for the DN Convention.


42 posted on 11/10/2004 1:46:40 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: Borges

So you have to submit the movie for it to be considered? Well, then, Gibson should not submit "The Passion" ... cast not thy pearls before swine.


43 posted on 11/10/2004 1:47:36 PM PST by Mamzelle (Nov 3--Psalm One...Blessed is the man...!)
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To: crushelits
"A lot of older Academy voters, who are largely Jewish, refuse to even see this movie," says one Oscar-campaign vet.

This is really sad.

Jesus died for them, too.

44 posted on 11/10/2004 1:51:48 PM PST by Gritty ("As long as Democrats stay on the wrong side of the gunsíníGod issues they will decline-Mark Steyn)
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To: crushelits

I thought the Sodom and Ghmorrah thing never went away.


45 posted on 11/10/2004 1:53:21 PM PST by najida (I shop for my fillet mignon at Walmart.)
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To: crushelits

Who cares about awards? Something that's given to you by a bunch of leftwingers isn't worth having anyway. All that matters is which movies did the best at the box office. Jim


46 posted on 11/10/2004 1:56:47 PM PST by jimfrommaine
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To: jimfrommaine

This would be great if true but a lot of junk does great box office and many good films don't get a wide enough release to have a chance. The Mel Gibson film is an example of risk taking that paid off but its an exception more then the rule. Sad but true.


47 posted on 11/10/2004 2:36:37 PM PST by Borges
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To: jimfrommaine

What you said. I have no idea what's won best picture, actor, actress, etc. for years. I see what I want to see. I can't believe that H'wood thinks religious Christians boycotting the Oscars would make any difference. It's kind of like surfers boycotting Nebraska.


48 posted on 11/10/2004 2:52:21 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Four more years)
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