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The Mystery of Capital Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else
Institute for Liberty and Democracy ^ | 2000 | Hernando de Soto

Posted on 10/22/2004 9:13:28 AM PDT by ckilmer

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1 posted on 10/22/2004 9:13:29 AM PDT by ckilmer
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Just read another good book on this. Simply put, capitalism requires the confidence of investors in the rule of law and also in the inherent fairness of individuals.

Christianities maxim of treating others as you would be treated was no small part of making capitalism work.


2 posted on 10/22/2004 9:20:15 AM PDT by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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To: ckilmer

Does this guy think Japan, Hong Kong, and Taiwan are the west?


3 posted on 10/22/2004 9:21:42 AM PDT by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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no but I think these countries have found ways to capitalize their property--in just the same way as the west.


4 posted on 10/22/2004 9:23:30 AM PDT by ckilmer
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"no but I think these countries have found ways to capitalize their property--in just the same way as the west."

Then he should have titled his book, The Mystery of Capital Why Capitalism Triumphs Some Places and Fails Some Places


5 posted on 10/22/2004 9:26:18 AM PDT by Max Combined (I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine...)
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To: ckilmer
De Soto should stick to exploration. Capitalism does work everywhere, to the degree it's implemented. Japan, Singapore, even China are all enjoying its effects.

The main issues are how much capitalism does a country have, and in what direction are they moving in (towards more capitalism, or more socialism). We're still the best, but we've got to quick moving Left.
6 posted on 10/22/2004 9:30:55 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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quick=quit


7 posted on 10/22/2004 9:31:13 AM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: SampleMan

"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest."


8 posted on 10/22/2004 9:31:50 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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Foreign investment is, of course, a very good thing. The more of it, the better.

Well you can sure tell that this was written in Y2K.
Since Dubya took office in 2001, Foreign Direct Investment in the U.S. has drasticly plummeted by 80%.

9 posted on 10/22/2004 9:35:53 AM PDT by Willie Green (Hawkins/Tonnelson in 2004!!!)
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I think there are two factors. One is the rule of law and the sanctity of contracts.

The other is Christianity or, where it has sufficient numbers, Judaism. Christianity and Judaism instill the ideas of freedom, fundamental equality, justice, private ownership, and decent consideration for others.

Some of these principles are found in other cultures. The Chinese, for instance, have traditionally been businessmen. But they have always had to cope with the whims of emperors or warlords. They have no traditional sense of inalienable rights or inalienable freedom.

Japanese, Chinese, and others from different backgrounds than ours have proved their ability to make capitalism work to a degree, but its not yet clear whether they will be able to establish societies that will not, in the end, crush the entrepreneurial spirit of innovation or confiscate the goods that capitalists have earned.


10 posted on 10/22/2004 9:36:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Willie Green

much of that has to do with the implosion on wall st. from 2000-2002


11 posted on 10/22/2004 9:39:38 AM PDT by ckilmer
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the point that de soto is making is not that other countries are less entreprenurial but rather that they have no capital. the second point he makes is that they have no capital because they have not capitalized their assets.


12 posted on 10/22/2004 9:41:57 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

I require this book for my western civ class at the U.


13 posted on 10/22/2004 9:42:26 AM PDT by LS
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Suggested chapter Hernando: "The Mystery of Why in the Hell Latin American Countries Remains So Damn Corrupt and Why that Encourages Black Market Economics."


14 posted on 10/22/2004 9:55:01 AM PDT by gipper81 (Hey! When's the October surprise coming???)
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I think it fair to say that its hard to figure stuff out.

de soto's working on it.

I like his thinking much better than than the stupid communist professors I had in college decades ago.


15 posted on 10/22/2004 10:08:40 AM PDT by ckilmer
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much of that has to do with the implosion on wall st. from 2000-2002

No, "Direct Foreign Investment" specifically excludes portfolio investments in the stock market. It is more reflective of ownership control of specific businesses, and capital investment in the plant and equipment to operate them. Examples would be when a foreign company purchases a business directly from a domestic company, whether it is a factory or a shopping mall. It is NOT the stock market.

16 posted on 10/22/2004 10:41:08 AM PDT by Willie Green (Hawkins/Tonnelson in 2004!!!)
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come to think of it-- didn't china pass the
US in direct foreign investment a couple years ago?


17 posted on 10/22/2004 10:48:27 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

ping as the DOW falls


18 posted on 10/22/2004 10:55:59 AM PDT by y2k_free_radical (m)
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didn't china pass the US in direct foreign investment a couple years ago?

Yes, it was reported just last month that they surpassed us in 2003.
China overtakes United States as top destination for foreign investment

Perhaps "overtake" isn't quite the right word.
While their FDI may have increased 1.5% last year,
ours got flushed down the crapper by 53%.

19 posted on 10/22/2004 11:44:35 AM PDT by Willie Green (Hawkins/Tonnelson in 2004!!!)
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To: Publius Valerius

"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest."

I concur, and in Christianity, their own interest is served by giving others a fair shake.

Who would give the butcher, brewer, or baker money to expand, if they suspected they were going to be cheated out of any profits?


20 posted on 10/22/2004 12:49:17 PM PDT by SampleMan ("Yes I am drunk, very drunk. But you madam are ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober." WSC)
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