Skip to comments.Did John Kerry Break State and Federal Law?(vanity)
Posted on 10/22/2004 9:58:01 AM PDT by quack
Only my third thread post,so be gentle.
Did John Kerry break state and federal law during his goose hunt?All of the photos I've seen DO NOT show a "tag" attached to any goose.Ohio state,and therefor federal,law requires that all migratory game birds that you have killed,but are not in posession of,be tagged with pertinent information.John Kerry said he was "Too lazy" to carry his own bird.If that goose did not have a tag,then I submit that Kerry is violation of state and federal law.
Tagging:No person shall give,put,or leave any migratory game birds at any place OR IN THE CUSTODY OF ANOTHER PERSON unless the birds are tagged by the hunter with the following information:(1)the hunters signature;(2)the hunters address;(3)the total number of birds involved,by species;and(4)the dates such birds were killed.No person or business shall receive or have in custody any migratory game birds BELONGING TO ANOTHER PERSON UNLESS SUCH BIRDS ARE PROPERLY TAGGED.
DUAL VIOLATION.Violation of state migratory bird regulations is also a violation of federal regulations.
Yes,it was Canada geese.
How is that legal?
Unless we're being lied to up here.
I'd love to beat the crap out of him for violating a federal law, but I know that is only in my dreams...
Hey magician.Please make yourself disappear from this thread.
A response from someone unable to defend their position.
There is a season for Canada goose hunting.During this time,you are allowed to kill Canada geese.However,all migratory birds are federally protected.From Mourning Doves to Cananda Geese.This means that the federal government sets the dates of these hunts and rules and regulations that hunters must follow.
Actually I fully believe it. I live in Mahoning County, Ohio and Kerry went with Rep. Ted Strickland, who is the (D) rep. for both part of Mahoning and Columbiana and a bunch of other rural counties. The only way Strickland got elected instead of a Republican was because he was a hunter, and a moderate. South of Mahoning is very rural, moral-based areas. Kerry went with Strickland thinking maybe some of his gun-protection voters would take note. Unfortunately this is the way politics works. However, no better than Bush having the press over to watch him cut wood in his back yard.
You don't have to tag farm raised Geese. Look at the thing. it is fat, and has a fat neck. Wild geese aren't fat, and don't have big fat necks. They just flew 2000 miles from the acric for Gods sake. Does that look like a tired exausted goose?Wild geese have thinner, longer necks.
Have you ever saw a goose land in a corn field of standing corn? Pictures speak a thousand words. The trouble is, most people don't hunt, so they don't notice these things.
I do not need to defend anything.You are simply trolling.
This is an old ploy tried by those that want to get their game home without using their tag. I don't hunt geese but if you don't tag your deer immediately and you get caught, you are in for trouble.
Further evidence that you can't defend your position.
Next thing your going to tell me is that there is no such thing as a "victimless crime."
I contend there is.
In the Kerry matter, there were what, 3, 4, 5 people walking out of the field with 1 goose. If indeed Kerry did shoot it and someone else carried it out of the field I see no legitimate reason that a citation of violation should be issued.
Look, you don't have to tag geese or ducks. the limit is 8 common or Canada's a day.
The only time you have to tag wild game is when you transport meat out of the state, then it has to be tagged.
Big game, has to be tagged as soon as you shoot it, or as soon as to drag it out of the bush to your transportation.
The issue was not how many or who was carrying it. It was the question over whether it was properly tagged, a position that you implied was not important. I don't know about your neck of the woods but not properly tagging game is usually an important issue as many try to get their game out by carrying the tag in their pocket thinking they can get the game home and then 'reuse' their tag later. Game Wardens are onto that game and so are judges.
Okay, I got it now.
Same principal as deer hunting.
Then the entire premise of Quack's post is false if that is the case.
Several posts above you said geese don't have to be tagged. Which is it?
There is no such thing as a goose tag, that's why.
If you field clean your geese, you must keep a wing on each bird for identicication purposes. that's the only rule.
Big game tagging is comepletely a different issue. With big game, you must tag the carcass as soon as possible, BEFORE you transport it, the exception being that you are using an atv to get it to transportation.
If you sell the hide, there is a hide tag, if you are shipping meat, there is a meat tag, if you are getting the head mounted, it must have a tag, or the taxidermist can't mount it.
I know, I hunt everything that can be hunted and eaten.
Since I never said that, I have no idea which it is.
Please read the Ohio state law,which I posted a link to.It specifically says that,"No person shall give,put,or leave ANY MIGRATORY GAME BIRDS at any place or IN THE CUSTODY OF ANOTHER PERSON unless the birds are tagged by the hunter with the following information:(1)the hunters signature;(2)the hunters address;(3)the total number of birds involved,by species,and (4)the dates such birds were killed."