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Stolen Honor/Sinclair a Bust
10/22/2004 | steve reeves

Posted on 10/22/2004 5:38:21 PM PDT by kaferhaus

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To: Shaka
This is the way we troll, we troll...we be trollin'!!!

Are you even WATCHING said show in question ???? The poster was right. This show is crap.

51 posted on 10/22/2004 5:55:15 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (W stands for We dont need no stinkin global test)
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To: MizSterious

This sux. What little bit has been about Kerry's service and protests was softball. Parts are very good for Kerry, and they gave Butler way more time than they did for Stolen Honor and it's crew. This is basically a watered down, fair and balanced, puff piece waste of time.


52 posted on 10/22/2004 5:55:23 PM PDT by TheLurkerX (John Kerry: More positions than the Kama Sutra.")
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To: FlJoePa

He is not talking about the documentary. He is talking about what Sinclair has decided to put on TV instead of Stolen Honor. I think that my head is finally going to explode.


53 posted on 10/22/2004 5:55:23 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: FlJoePa

I'm talking about the Sinclair "presentation" that is airing on our local Sinclair station--they only showed about 5 minutes of the actual Stolen Honor video, and the rest is crud.


54 posted on 10/22/2004 5:55:47 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: tirednvirginia

They were never going to show Stolen Honor and never said they were.

I don't understand why anyone on FR, as intelligent as they are, and addicted to facts as we are, has FAILED to get that important FACT


55 posted on 10/22/2004 5:56:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: Just mythoughts

It's fine for what it is; some of you expect Kerry to be drug to the Mall in D.C. and burned at the stake.

Be happy this much got on; it's sure as hell more than anywhere else has run.


56 posted on 10/22/2004 5:56:29 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin

ITS BULLSH*T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


57 posted on 10/22/2004 5:57:31 PM PDT by JessieHelmsJr
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To: Howlin

Howlin are you even watching the show ??? IT SUCKS !!!!!!


58 posted on 10/22/2004 5:57:42 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (W stands for We dont need no stinkin global test)
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To: Shaka; kaferhaus

You know lets not assume this is a troll. Frankly, I agree with the poster.

Heaven forbid an FR agreeing with a newbie!

BTW, welcome aboard.


59 posted on 10/22/2004 5:57:47 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (REALLY REALLY Ticked OFF in the heartland)
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To: UsnDadof8

"This is the way we troll, we troll...we be trollin'!!!"

"Are you even WATCHING said show in question ???? The poster was right. This show is crap."


The janitors are early tonight, think they see a mess and have no clue what is actually being discussed.


60 posted on 10/22/2004 5:58:16 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Libloather

You are incorrect, this person is dead on. The Sinclair produced doc "A POW Story" is very sympathetic to Kerry.

Go reed my posts I am not a troll.


61 posted on 10/22/2004 5:58:29 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Kerretarded

Come Monday, we ALL have to get this documentary (the apparently uncut version) out to everyone we know.

Burn it on DVD's

IM the link to co-workers

E-Mail the link to family

Do anything and everything to put this video in the hands of anyone that wants to put this skinny, vile pig of a man in office.


62 posted on 10/22/2004 5:58:31 PM PDT by FlJoePa (Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.)
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To: UsnDadof8

Yes, I did watch it.

It doesn't suck; it's just not slash and burn.

Try to remember that the rest of the world isn't quite as strident about John Kerry as we are.


63 posted on 10/22/2004 5:58:37 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: UsnDadof8

At least I can erase the tape of this.


64 posted on 10/22/2004 5:58:40 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: Howlin

I'm bashing it too. Give the guy a break--lots of us are disappointed.


65 posted on 10/22/2004 5:58:40 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: snarkytart

reed meant "read"


66 posted on 10/22/2004 5:59:01 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: kaferhaus
I agree.
I though this was about John Kerry's NON-service
"Stolesn Honor" there's nothing here.
No movie. It was supressed.
Sinclair, we are dissapointed.


67 posted on 10/22/2004 5:59:31 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: Howlin
The question was are you watching, or are you just cleaning up a preceived out of place poster???
68 posted on 10/22/2004 5:59:34 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: kaferhaus

Where in blazes do they get those "Vietnam Vets FOR Kerry"?
They're either liars or REMF's who never got even a smell of combat. Sorry 'bout that...


69 posted on 10/22/2004 5:59:41 PM PDT by landman7 (Old 1SG)
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To: kaferhaus

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....a big disappointment.


70 posted on 10/22/2004 5:59:44 PM PDT by MassachusettsConservative
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To: infidel29

I was very disappointed in it. They did not show any of Stolen Honor (maybe 10 seconds). It is very obvious that Sinlcair backed down big time. The Kerry people spun his anti-war actions to the point where it looked like he did nothing wrong. It was a joke.


71 posted on 10/22/2004 6:00:00 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: snarkytart

Tes, FR helps lower my blood pressure!


72 posted on 10/22/2004 6:00:08 PM PDT by gramho12 (Got wood?)
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To: MizSterious

They're not EVER going to show a program that would be detrimental enough for us, Miz. Never.


73 posted on 10/22/2004 6:00:22 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: kaferhaus
If Sinclair would have aired the video in its entirety without editorial doctoring, and then allowed the Kerry camp to respond, that would have been one thing. But apparently I was right -- even though I was hoping I wasn't, and even though I got slammed here for saying it. Dammit, I was right. Sinclair is apparently a bunch of linguini-spined cowards who decided to chop up the documentary and insert so much cognitive dissonance as to make it useless. Shame on them! SHAME! In the mean time, there are plenty of links around here on FR to the UNCUT and unadulterated version of the video where you can see for yourself. Pass it around to your liberal friends. It's a damn good video.
74 posted on 10/22/2004 6:00:24 PM PDT by Cooltouch
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To: cinnathepoet

thanks for the welcome, I'm not a "newbie", just don't post.


75 posted on 10/22/2004 6:00:56 PM PDT by kaferhaus
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To: sionnsar

Thanks for the welcome


76 posted on 10/22/2004 6:01:45 PM PDT by kaferhaus
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To: Just mythoughts

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?


77 posted on 10/22/2004 6:01:50 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: mn-bush-man

The production sucks. The interviews look edited to eliminate any pauses and seem unnatural. Worse, the interviews seemed to have been taped with the assumption they would be in response to a showing of Stolen Honor, when in fact they aren't.

News Central overpromised and under delivered. They allowed themselves to become the news, and failed to produce an interesting program.

While I can respect their attempt to be fair and balanced, they looked like scared little girlie men producing a high school news show.

Won't take these guys seriously again.


78 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:04 PM PDT by rwilson99 (I am a South Park Republican)
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To: Howlin; ruralgal
There appears to be some confusion. The Sinclair presentation is NOT Stolen Honor but instead a hit piece that gives more than equal time to Kerry's buddies, including the filmmaker that is suing Sinclair. There is a 200+ thread on how we were sandbagged by Sinclair here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1253980/posts?

I watched PhiKapMom's download of Stolen Honor and it is very moving and a compelling adjustment of Kerry. Don't confuse the two.
79 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:10 PM PDT by CedarDave (Viet Nam Vet, USN Coastal Div. 13, Cat Lo, USCG patrol boat, 1968: No atrocities on my watch!)
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To: kaferhaus

Total crap. It's finally over, and it ended with a plea by Sinclair to have viewers contact the FCC and let them know that Sinclair is within their rights.

They called it a POW story, and they barely referenced the POW matter with John Kerry, or at all.

Total letdown, total piece of sh*t. Sinclair should have just canceled it and let people think Kerry derailed it. Instead, they apparently diluted it to the point where they can defend doing it in the first place.


80 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:12 PM PDT by TheLurkerX (John Kerry: More positions than the Kama Sutra.")
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To: MizSterious

Sinclair is asking people to contact the FFC about their right to run this show. At least if any of the cases get to a judge, the left won't have a leg to stand on as the show was so weak. I see many of the complaints getting dropped before court.


81 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:48 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: kaferhaus
We've waited 2 weeks for this??

What a disappointment.
When they were critiquing the Pres. military record and the fact that some of the records are missing, Why didn't they point out that Kerry has refused to sign the 180 form to release his??
82 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:52 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Howlin

Thank you, a voice of sanity......

Sheesh.


83 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:54 PM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: MEG33

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1253812/posts
STOLEN HONOR: WATCH IT FREE ONLINE

(repeated for effect)


84 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:57 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Howlin
Uh oh, spill on aisle 2, better hurry...
85 posted on 10/22/2004 6:02:59 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Kerry has plenty to worry about. The full 42 minutes of Stolen Honor is very damning. Follow the links posted here and watch THAT instead.


86 posted on 10/22/2004 6:03:09 PM PDT by standupfortruth
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To: airborne

Nice graphic, but not warranted...

Likely I've been voting republican longer than you've been breathing on your own.


87 posted on 10/22/2004 6:03:10 PM PDT by kaferhaus
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To: kaferhaus
I'm not a "newbie"

Are you aware we can see your join date?

88 posted on 10/22/2004 6:03:27 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Shaka; sissyjane

Troll?

Lots of long time freepers share this guy's opinion.


89 posted on 10/22/2004 6:03:49 PM PDT by sharktrager (The masses will trade liberty for a more quiet life.)
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To: Howlin

It does too suck.


90 posted on 10/22/2004 6:03:52 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.)
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To: FlJoePa

AGREED. I smell CIVIL WAR soon! Now I turn on Hannity and AIDS and I have to listen to AIDS try to discuss politics seriously. He is on with Ferraro.


91 posted on 10/22/2004 6:04:11 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: kaferhaus

DISAPPOINTED, that's all I can say.


92 posted on 10/22/2004 6:04:12 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: kaferhaus
Very whitebread. Over the top in trying to appear fair and balanced, and thus, by presenting both sides of the story, have ended up cancelling each of them out.

Like kissin' your sister.

93 posted on 10/22/2004 6:04:16 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: CedarDave

adjustment = indictment

(Spell check strikes again!)


94 posted on 10/22/2004 6:04:20 PM PDT by CedarDave (Viet Nam Vet, USN Coastal Div. 13, Cat Lo, USCG patrol boat, 1968: No atrocities on my watch!)
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To: Just mythoughts

No doubt. Heaven forbid you should have a new registered date. It's like a pretty blond chick walking through the projects at night - you just know that trouble's comin'.


95 posted on 10/22/2004 6:04:25 PM PDT by UsnDadof8 (W stands for We dont need no stinkin global test)
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To: CedarDave

I never thought it was going to be Stolen Honor in total.


96 posted on 10/22/2004 6:04:27 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: kaferhaus
Completely concur. These guys have gone so far out of their way to try to appear 'fair' that they covered Dan Rather's apology without talking one whit about the fraudulent documents that led to it. They let a Kerry supporter get away with co-opting the complaints of the POW's by saying "we are against the lies our government told, too" when the POW's were against Kerry's lies and nobody else's. They are making this whole thing look like a petty schoolyard argument instead of portraying the legitimate complaints of the POWs against Kerry's traitorous anti-American activities that those POWs believe it to be. This was pure white-bread, boredom-inducing pap. They snowed us all.

I suppose there are a lot of folks who saw the whole "Stolen Honor" that are confusing that film with what happened tonight. I firmly believe Kerry's actions were traitorous and contributed to both personal pain and suffering for POW's and other Vietnam Vets, as well as professional and enduring damage to our nations armed forces as a whole.

I also firmly believe Sinclair screwed the pooch in telling either that story or today's story of the attempts to quash the First Ammendment rights related to the stories of those involved and Sinclair's own right to tell those stories. In short, they caved in and produced pure crap and got huge ratings in return (I don't doubt).

They did more for Kerry tonight than any of Kerry's 'band of brothers' lies ever did. Sinclair validated the lies tonight.

97 posted on 10/22/2004 6:05:34 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: Se7eN

Very disappointed in it. A total waste of time. Very poorly represented.


98 posted on 10/22/2004 6:05:39 PM PDT by BonneBlue
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To: EllaMinnow

It's out there is my point.


99 posted on 10/22/2004 6:05:48 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin

"Yes, I did watch it.
It doesn't suck; it's just not slash and burn.
Try to remember that the rest of the world isn't quite as strident about John Kerry as we are."

You are right.... but I am still pouting :-(
The slash and burn ( that I wanted ) probably would have turned off the people who are still confused.
Perhaps its better to 'plant a seed' of doubt about kerry and hope to hell it germinates REALLY fast.



100 posted on 10/22/2004 6:05:49 PM PDT by Thinkin
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