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LIBERTARIAN PARTY FOUNDER ENDORSES BUSH
AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL LIBERTARIANS | 10-24-2004 | Dr. John Hospers

Posted on 10/24/2004 10:37:30 AM PDT by Y2Krap

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To: Axenolith

The guy you replied to wrote down the wrong email addy. Look at post 28 and he has it written down right.


101 posted on 10/24/2004 1:13:46 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: bahblahbah
Where did you get this letter? I've already started posting it elsewhere and I don't want it to end up being phony. * * * * * * * * * PUBLISHED HERE FIRST TODAY via JOHN HOSPERS. Rest assured, it is authentic.

You can contact him: johnjhospers@aol.com

102 posted on 10/24/2004 1:21:27 PM PDT by Y2Krap (JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT (Cue Music: "Uppa U.S."))
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To: bahblahbah

Got it.


103 posted on 10/24/2004 1:22:27 PM PDT by Axenolith (This space for rent.)
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To: Y2Krap
"New" voters for UA...

The Amish

The 4 million evangelicals that stayed home last time?

and now the Libertarians!

Is it possible America is waking up to just how crucial this election is? Pray hard. And Pray for "The Man'

He has the biggest bullseye of anyone in the world on him - he knows it - and yet, think of the bravery it takes to go out there day after day - state after state - rally after rally!

Right now he's all that stands between us/US and freedom...it's as simple as that

The dark side is desparate - they will stop at nothing to rule = they know this is their last shot...for decades...certainly for any of them.

104 posted on 10/24/2004 1:25:14 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: My2Cents
I feel vindicated.

Me too.

105 posted on 10/24/2004 1:25:45 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Y2Krap
"There are already numerous stories of brownshirt types committing violence against Republican campaign headquarters all over the country, and Democrat thugs harassing Republican voters at the polls. Yet not a word about it from the Kerry campaign. Expect this dangerous trend to increase dramatically with a Kerry win, ignored and tacitly accepted by the liberal-left mainstream media. This is ominous sign of worse things to come."

BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP

106 posted on 10/24/2004 1:27:04 PM PDT by Skooz (Any nation that would elect John Kerry as it's president has forfeited it's right to exist.)
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To: unspun
FReepers: get this out to your libertarian friends.*****

to ALL your friends - it's equally powerful to let others know that if the Libertarians have come this far - it REALLY is crucial WE ALL VOTE *****

His letter should be "required reading" before anyone can vote - LOL

107 posted on 10/24/2004 1:28:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Uncle Vlad
we are in a Cold Civil War with the Democrat party**************

Wow! in a nutshell!

108 posted on 10/24/2004 1:31:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: maine-iac7
I think you're on to something. We're praying not only that the 4 million evangelicals will get out to vote this time, but that another million will feel "moved" by the Spirit to do their civic duty.

And add to these factors you've identified, a doubling of Bush's support among blacks (tripling among evangelical blacks), an improvement in Bush's support among women and hispanics, and I don't think this election is going to be as close as the polls indicate. There are going to be a lot of jaw-dropped pundits on election night.

109 posted on 10/24/2004 1:32:16 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: Uncle Vlad
I hope that with the new election cycle which starts immediately on Nov. 3rd, the GOP becomes more responsibly libertarian.
110 posted on 10/24/2004 1:34:37 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: tenuredprof
Plenty of us libertarians are supporting Bush. As far as I know, most or all of the prominent Randians are on board as well. In other words, all of us who have a grain of common sense -- and John Hospers has enough common sense to sustain an entire university philosophy department singlehandedly -- are supporting W this year. There will be time enough for libertarians to argue with conservatives about drug legalization, etc. AFTER we have first rescued civilization from the evils threatening it from without (Islamofascism) and within (the modern Democratic Party and its media wing). Even we fanatics have priorities.*********

great post

111 posted on 10/24/2004 1:46:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Virginia-American
I too, have been an LP activist in the past, and I'll be voting for Dubya.

I'd be interested to learn how the number of registered Libertarians has changed since 9/11/01.

112 posted on 10/24/2004 1:47:18 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh/Loves John Kerry so vote him in!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
LIBERTARIAN PARTY FOUNDER ENDORSES BUSH

Jefferson passed on years ago too, shortly after he wrote the essential principle of libertarianism:

"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another."
113 posted on 10/24/2004 1:49:33 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: My2Cents
and I don't think this election is going to be as close as the polls indicate. There are going to be a lot of jaw-dropped pundits on election night*********

So Let it be said, So let it be done...,/\

114 posted on 10/24/2004 1:50:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Copernicus
"I endorse and will cast my vote for Mr. Badnarik"

Mr. Badnarik position (and therefore I assume the LP's position) on corporations, is the fundamental premise of a corporation, that it is viewed by the law as an individual, and stockholders are exempted from liability of the corporation's actions, should be ended.

This is immensely idotic. Note, this is not about holding CEOs or boards of director's liable, this is about holding stockholders liable. He suggests a new industry, stockholder portfolio liability insurance, could be created to address the problem.

This, in one fell swoop, would crater the stock markets.

The end of LLCs would destroy many small businesses.

It would create a new kind of lawsuit: The reverse class action, where, instead of a class suing an individual, and individual could sue a class.

Could you imagine the poor rank and file Enron employees with their worthless stock in their 401k's being sued? In Badnarik's world, as Enron was bankrupt, those suing Enron could go after the homes and savings of the former employees.

This seems completely counter to the concept of the Libertarian Party, which in Badnarik view, must be about the liberty to sue.

Here are Badnarik's own words:

"Stockholders are owners, and should be liable for the consequences of that ownership like any other owners. I have no doubt that the market will come up with "portfolio insurance" to protect the stockholders from ruinous claims, but that in itself will provide a market check on unrestrained, unaccountable growth -- companies which act irresponsibly will find that their stockholders can't buy, or have to pay unreasonably high, insurance premiums, and therefore aren't interested in having the stock."

Of course, in Badnarik's world, I wonder who insures the stockholders of the portfolio insurance companies?

115 posted on 10/24/2004 1:53:34 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Y2Krap

As a Libertarian who is currently registered as a Republican and voting for Bush, I say...

...Thank God we can count on that extra .01 percent of the vote!

;-)


116 posted on 10/24/2004 1:53:58 PM PDT by freestyle
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To: tpaine
That's a great saying. Too bad that some self-avowed anarcho-Libertarians claim that casting a vote is participating in violence.
117 posted on 10/24/2004 1:54:52 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Y2Krap

Listen I was just challenged for this letter when I posted it. Should have read all the comments first. Lot's have asked for the source. Are you going to fess up or not? We want and need the source!


118 posted on 10/24/2004 2:00:17 PM PDT by bjctwicearound (twicearound)
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To: FredZarguna
Frankly, I had no problem taking the LP pledge that "One must never initiate the aggressive use of force," but it appears that too many L(l)ibertarians have forgotten that when Ayn Rand laid down that law, it had two parts to it, the second of which is, "and when aggressive force is used against one, he must never fail to respond."


Ayn Rand on the use of force:

"Dictatorship nations are outlaws. Any free nation had the right to invade Nazi Germany and, today, has the right to invade Soviet Russia, Cuba or any other slave pen. Whether a free nation chooses to do so or not is a matter of its own self-interest, not of respect for the non-existent "rights" of gang rulers. It is not a free nation's duty to liberate other nations at the price of self-sacrifice, but a free nation has the right to do it, when and if it so chooses."

"A slave nation has no national rights, but the individual rights of its citizens remain valid, even if unrecognized, and the conqueror has no right to violate them. Therefore, the invasion of an enslaved country is morally justified only when and if the conquerors establish a free social system, that is, a system based on the recognition of individual rights."

'Collectivized "Rights"', June 1963, The Virtue of Selfishness.

119 posted on 10/24/2004 2:00:43 PM PDT by Skylab
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To: Virginia-American
>>I think he'd be a great Canadian Prime Minister.

Ah, there we differ. I think Canada would make a great batch of US territories.

120 posted on 10/24/2004 2:05:33 PM PDT by Graymatter (Reload Bush/Cheney 2004)
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