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To: FredZarguna
Frankly, I had no problem taking the LP pledge that "One must never initiate the aggressive use of force," but it appears that too many L(l)ibertarians have forgotten that when Ayn Rand laid down that law, it had two parts to it, the second of which is, "and when aggressive force is used against one, he must never fail to respond."


Ayn Rand on the use of force:

"Dictatorship nations are outlaws. Any free nation had the right to invade Nazi Germany and, today, has the right to invade Soviet Russia, Cuba or any other slave pen. Whether a free nation chooses to do so or not is a matter of its own self-interest, not of respect for the non-existent "rights" of gang rulers. It is not a free nation's duty to liberate other nations at the price of self-sacrifice, but a free nation has the right to do it, when and if it so chooses."

"A slave nation has no national rights, but the individual rights of its citizens remain valid, even if unrecognized, and the conqueror has no right to violate them. Therefore, the invasion of an enslaved country is morally justified only when and if the conquerors establish a free social system, that is, a system based on the recognition of individual rights."

'Collectivized "Rights"', June 1963, The Virtue of Selfishness.

119 posted on 10/24/2004 2:00:43 PM PDT by Skylab
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To: Skylab
Ayn Rand on the use of force:

"Dictatorship nations are outlaws. Any free nation had the right to invade Nazi Germany and, today, has the right to invade Soviet Russia, Cuba or any other slave pen. Whether a free nation chooses to do so or not is a matter of its own self-interest, not of respect for the non-existent "rights" of gang rulers. It is not a free nation's duty to liberate other nations at the price of self-sacrifice, but a free nation has the right to do it, when and if it so chooses."

"A slave nation has no national rights, but the individual rights of its citizens remain valid, even if unrecognized, and the conqueror has no right to violate them. Therefore, the invasion of an enslaved country is morally justified only when and if the conquerors establish a free social system, that is, a system based on the recognition of individual rights."

Who'd have thunk it? GWB is a Randian... :)

193 posted on 10/25/2004 10:29:34 AM PDT by kevkrom (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too.)
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