Posted on 10/24/2004 2:36:17 PM PDT by TapTheSource
WRONG...
A Constitutional Republic... is what we are or supposed to be..
Boy... them RATS really brain washed you're ass.. Probably washed a few other parts as well.. A pure democracy or an unpure one... its all the same MOB RULE..
Damn you have a hard head..
ROSEBUD!..
Now I've gone and done it..
China better learn this lesson. And really, they are fools not to. There is huge buying potential out there if they would just pay the workers talked about in this article enough to enjoy and least some free spending - And that is the lesson of Henry Ford.
Does not the ORIGINAL constitution allow for the people to vote for its congressional leaders? If it does, we have always been a democratic, albeit constitutional, republic. Must you deny our own constitution to hold fast to your monarchist ways?
Those pics are of housing thrown up by the construction workers before they begin work on the building. They tear them down and move them with them to the next site.
Actually, that housing is better - or at least as good - as what they had in the country. Only they are at least getting money now - and saving it.
I watch these houses go up and it reminds me of a friend of mine that use to go around the country building Thrifty Drug stores. He had is pickup truck and his travel trailer. But, he was putting considerably more money in the bank.
"China better learn this lesson. And really, they are fools not to. There is huge buying potential out there if they would just pay the workers talked about in this article enough to enjoy and least some free spending - And that is the lesson of Henry Ford."
I think the Communist Chinese, as Communists, are strictly opposed to the development of a strong middle class. The reasons for this are obvious. A strong middle class could actually challeng their hold on power. Thus, slave labor.
This is written by a bleeding heart reporter who doesn't understand capitalism. China is experiencing prosperity because of their switch to a free market system. This WP article shows a better picture:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48818-2004Sep24.html
Also from http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm
Third world countries have one great advantage: cheap labor. You may read the press whining about 'sweatshop labor', but keep in mind Adam Smith's golden rule of economics: a transaction will only take place if both sides mutually benefit. So, it is obvious that these people working for these companies improved their conditions by working for them, or else they would choose not to work there. Now, as more and more companies move into the area to take advantage of this cheap labor a few things occur. First, the people they are employing have more money then before (if they didn't then why would they take the job?). Second, the new factories requires construction, electricity, and transportation of their exports. Third, foreigners, who are used to high standards of living, must be brought in to supervise the investment and they must be housed and paid. Fourth, the companies have to pay taxes.
All of this translates into more demand for local companies and more spending in the local economy. Also, the new tax revenues are invested into schools, roads and infrastructure. Perhaps some local people are promoted to positions of authority in the foreign investment and they learn new skills. Since the schools are better funded, due to the increasing tax revenues, more students graduate and more go to college. We might also think that kids won't have to start work as young and work as hard as they used to because their parents are making more money - either working for the foreign companies, or from the general cash influx into their normal occupations. But how can this be? 'Sweatshops' and foreign investment = more educated kids working less when they are younger? This is different then the hysteria we often hear.
At any rate, as the population becomes more educated and infrastructure continues to improve, some of the foreign investors might think, "hmmm.. we can do something with a little more skill over here too and pay the people here less then at home!". Then we have a situation similar to India, where jobs open up in software developing, technical assistance, and more advanced manufacturing operations. Eventually, the price of labor has risen so much that the low wage manufacturing centers have to leave the country - people won't work for a price that is profitable to the company. As the 'sweatshop' manufacturing center pulls out of the formerly third world country what does it leave behind? Despair and destitution, or a skilled educated workforce and a humming modern economy? This is how prosperity advances. (246) [check out this great article on this in a Washington Post article on China]
They might be opposed to it but it has already happened. About 250 million of them in that middle class. And they are not complaining.
My monarchist ways ?.... LoL....
Nazi germans voted.. as did they in Iraq with Sadaam..
Actually; NO; only men could vote(in some states) and not all men at that..
The founders knew politically ignorant house wives would bring us to foundering ultimately to become a democracy.. as has been happening since 1913..
Chew on that awhile your Fifeness(Barny)..
"Actually; NO; only men could vote(in some states) and not all men at that.."
True, only male property owners could vote. Not unlike the Roman republic, which selectively allowed certain classes of citizens the vote. That, my dear friend, is limited democracy. Limited by what? The Constitution!
with china and india's populations, they essentially have an infinite supply of cheap labor. there isn't going to be any significant bidding up of wages in countries where starvation is the prime motiviator to make people work.
What a fimiliar story.
"Sounds like America many years ago...and it took some very brave individuals and dangerous acts to get the government to protect the rights of the "working man."
May they have their success too, and I hope that it is less bloody.
Capitalism is a great motivator, even for the governments which are in collusion with the businessmen who feed them from their profits.
No it isn't.. a democracy is defined by centralized government. In OUR republic the states are soverign and the fed is a vassal servant controlled at their whims. In a democracy the states or provinces are the vassals controlled at the feds whims..... like in URP and Canada..
THATS WHY....
Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx
Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin
The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx
When people ask what I have against unrestricted free trade, "China" is what I tell them.
Listen, I love capitalism. There is currently no better economic system on Earth (though it is not perfect), and capitalism provides the most profit/wages for the greatest number of people. Capitalism provides a much needed stimulate, a REASON for people to work harder and smarter than they would under a limited command economy like socialism/communism. There is also far greater degrees of personal liberty inherent in the practice of capitalism than the flawed-at-conceptual-levels socialism.
But all this does not disguise the fact that there are few hard and fast rules in economics. Call me naive, but I believe that sometimes you just have to stand up as a unified nation for what's right, governmental or corporate trade be damned. I believe that certain nations should be placed off limits to the reception of U.S. corporate funds ( and U.S. businesses prohibited from trade with said nations), until such a time as that nation's dictatorial leadership passes away or has changed it's policy/attitudes. There would be three measures for determining such a nation, and China is definitely one of them:
a.) internal policy is brutal; rife with human rights violations (and the genocidal "one-child" policy of forced abortion in China's case).
b.) there is little chance of peaceful regime change without external pressure.
c.) said nation is on record (per members of it's ruling regime) as being hostile to the U.S. Sworn enemies are addressed here.
The proposed "guest worker" program is criminal. Are we to be a slave labor society? If those who employ illegals were fined every day,for every illegal they employ,they would stop employing illegals,and the illegals would stop coming. It's a lie that these are jobs no American would do. If these employers paid their employees a little more,and treated them a little better they would have no difficulty finding legal applicants. Besides,with the proposed "guest worker" plan ALL jobs,where the employer says they can't get enough applicants for what they are offering would be thrown open. Is your job safe,or will your employer decide it's time to make it a minimum wage job,so they can bring in someone from outside of this country?
[ /Sarcasm ]
Reallocating or transferring labor costs is starting to catch up with some US companies; missed deliveries, poor quality and high shipping costs have become a common nightmare.
grilling out and waiting for the next PAYING CUSTOMER OPPORTUNITY
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