Posted on 10/25/2004 6:36:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
I am not in the mood to look up anything this morning. So this is just my memory at work. All of these past looting statements are taken out of context. IIRC, these statements were in regard to the looting of museums that took place after the invasion of Bagdad.
This harping must be seen in the background of DNC-supported terrorism.
Partial list of Terrorist Weapons - Found in Iraq:
* A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service
that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.
* A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials
working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.
* Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home,
one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.
* New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF),
and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.
* Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in
resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).
* A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission
that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.
* Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles,
a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists
have said they were told to conceal from the UN.
* Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km -
well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed
Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.
Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology
related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles,
and other prohibited military equipment.
Still missing based on the UNSCOM report to the UN Security Council in January 1999,
when the UN inspectors left Iraq in 1998, they had been unable to account for:
up to 360 tons of bulk chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tons of VX nerve agent;
up to 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals, including approximately 300 tons which,
in the Iraqi chemical warfare program, were unique to the production of VX;
growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce
over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admitted to UN inspectors to having manufactured);
over 30,000 special munitions for delivery of chemical and biological agents;
20 al-Hussein missles with a range of 650 km, in violation
of UN Security Council Resolution 687 (Iraq had told UNSCOM that it filled these warheads with anthrax and botulinum);
2,850 tons of mustard gas, 210 tons of tabun, and 795 tons of sarin and cyclosarin;
development of the Al-Samoud short-range missle (which had the capability to fly beyond the 150 km allowed by UN resolutions)
=========== Documents linking Atta, Saddam, Nidal, bin Ladin ===========
Handwritten letter dated Feb. 19, 1998 linking bin Laden and Saddam Hussein
discussing arrival of a secret envoy sent by bin Laden to Iraq.
The signature beneath the letter is a codename, "MDA" - the Mukhabarat.
========= Chemical Warhead found in Kirkuk =============
Chemical warhead found at an Iraqi air base, marked with a green band,
the symbol for chemical weaponry. Trace amounts of a nerve agent were found
at two spots along the ~meter-long warhead. These amounts are consistent with
leakage from the chemically armed weapon. A 13-foot missile was found next to it.
========= Halabja =========
children, previously playing in Halabja
Victims of Saddams' WMD in March 1988.
That argument only works for the Dems: "its old news". Republicans are held to different standards. What could be older news than Bush's National Guard service - and look how long that was on the front pages again. This story will moves the polls this week - just watch.
Unfortunately, it again points to the fact that we didn't put enough troops in country after the takeover.
They can be used to "detonate nuclear weapons"
If there's a terrorist with nukes in mind, I doubt his most pressing problem is finding common conventional explosives.
It would not be surprising if the explosives were SOLD by corrupt UN members or they were bribed to look the other way.
Also missing was a case of red pushbotton switches, which can be used to detonate nuclear weapons.
The October surprise is that Kerry is still on his feet and polling in the 40's. Still no sight of his medical records, his military records, or his running mate's qualifications to stand a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Sit on it, Joe. Bush/Rove will take this and stick it up your backside, probably by the end of the day tomorrow.
1) The weapons could end up or have already ended up in the hands of a terrorist group;
2) The explosives might be used against our troops on the ground; and
3) The explosives could be used to carry out a deadly attack against America or our allies.
NEW REVELATION: Failure To Secure Iraqi Explosives May Mean that Powerful Explosives are in Hands of Terrorists
The sheer illogic of this is extraordinary. The argument by the MSM and Demos to date has been: 1) There were no WMDs or weapons in Iraq, 2) there was no imminent threat to the US, and 3) There was no terrorist connection between Iraq and terrorists.
Now they are saying: 1) There are weapons, 2) they pose an imminent threat to the US, and 3) they are linked to terrorists. Perhaps someone can explain this to me.
In addition... what would have been the case if we had never invaded?? Answer: the terrorists would have these explosives and a lot of other stuff too.
As other posters have observed, this essentially proves Bush's argument that there were WMDs and other weapons. It also proves an imminent threat. It also proves a terrorist connection.
Darn, you beat me by a few minutes. Nice post. Could't agree more.
It's called the rope-a-dope. Let Kerry and the media spout off for a day or 2 and then hit them hard with the facts. Or perhaps, I'm off in fantasy land. We will see.
This strikes me as a pretty feeble October surprise.
Next, I suppose they will bring up the theft of priceless historical works of art from the Baghdad Museum. That was all Bush's fault too.
I'll do my best. I'm beginning to understand DemoCrap, but my translation may be a bit strained:
There were no WMD's in Iraq before the war.
There was no imminent threat to the US before the war.
There was no link to terrorists before the war.
Because of the war, all three of these things are now present.
Democrat translation: We were safer with Saddam in power because he kept these things from happening, i.e. he was our ally.
Its not to difficult to imagine how they can believe Saddam was an ally when they believe that France is an ally.
I hope so.
My brother lives in Tennessee and is a Vietnam vet. He voted early for George Bush even though he has trouble even walking around in the grocery store. He has a doctor appt. on the 26th and said he does not want to possibly be admitted to a hospital and unable to vote. He called me to announce he made sure he voted.
The Kerry camp had these letters ready pretty quickly, hm?
I suspect they and the NYT were working together on this story.
Otherwise, would they have been so prepared to release their responses?
bless his heart!!....you give him a hug for me...and thank him for his service to our country...
There were no WMD's in Iraq before the war....
Because of the war, all three of these things are now present. ...
I'm impressed!! Nice argument, particularly since I know you don't believe it and are just trying to state the putative Demo position. However:
There were no WMDs before the war, but they suddenly appeared after the war and after we destroyed their infrastructure?
I don't think so. Their argument still doesn't work. I agree with a previous poster that surmised that this was a leak by Rove to sucker in the Demos for a "one - two punch". Let the Demos confirm the WMDs, the imminent threat, and the terrorist connection. Even the NYT walked into it with the "set off nuclear bombs" comment. Once the Demos have agreed to that, their entire criticism of the war in Iraq evaporates.
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