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Posted on 10/25/2004 8:21:45 AM PDT by Another-MA-Conservative

Looking for some guidance and advice from freeper 2nd Amendment fans here. I hope it is not inappropriate to post such threads on FR, but it seems like a good audience for it.

I've never owned a firearm before, but I have at least fired long guns before in the distant past(shotguns and a .22 rifle).

Anyway, I'm looking to exercise my 2nd Amendment rights for the first time in my adult life. I'd like a "beginner" handgun, initially to just get familiar with them and for inexpensive shooting-range practice. My research so far has led me towards .22 rimfire semiauto pistols as a good starting point.

That said, I'm thinking about the Beretta U22 Neos 6.0... any good? It's gotten good reviews in the mags I've read so far and is reasonably priced.

I'm also a little nervous about how to go about getting my feet wet in this - I've never even been in a gun shop before. To my understanding, I have to take a training course in order to get a license, and that it's practically impossible to get a CCW license here in MA. Should I join the NRA? How do I find places to shoot? Most seem to be private sportsmens clubs... what's the deal with these?

So... any advice for a 2nd-Ammendment newbie?


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1 posted on 10/25/2004 8:21:45 AM PDT by Another-MA-Conservative
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Any advice? From us?!?! Hold on.


2 posted on 10/25/2004 8:24:09 AM PDT by stevio (Bush B* Slapped 'im!)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Foreget the handgun, get a double barrel shotgun.

Far more effective for home defense, and skeet is about the most fun shooting "game" I know of.


3 posted on 10/25/2004 8:24:15 AM PDT by Wisconsin
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Both the .22 and Beretta are good choices for starter pistols. It's not too much gun for the beginner. Now, I'm not an expert on firearms courses. I'll let other FReepers guide you through that one.


4 posted on 10/25/2004 8:25:59 AM PDT by writer33 (Try this link: http://www.whiskeycreekpress.com/books/electivedecisions.shtml)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Go to a shooting range and get to know the people there. They can answer most questions you might have and even help you get familiar with various weapons.


5 posted on 10/25/2004 8:26:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Call the NRA and they can supply you with a list of certified trainers in your area. They will be able to supply you with some "hands-on" guidance and training so that you can make an educated decision. Good luck!


6 posted on 10/25/2004 8:26:11 AM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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"I'm thinking about the Beretta U22 Neos"

Get a Walther P22. Smaller, lighter, much more standard in it's configuration, and simply a lot of fun. Master it, and you'll have many of the skills and motor reflexes used with larger calibers.

Highly recommended.

Stay safe,

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

7 posted on 10/25/2004 8:26:25 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Go to this site.



http://www.goal.org/index2.html


8 posted on 10/25/2004 8:26:42 AM PDT by Redcoat LI ("I am the great and powerful Kerry! Look at my medals!")
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Yeah, move out of MA for beginners.


9 posted on 10/25/2004 8:29:14 AM PDT by eastforker (Maybe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure what I said is what I meant_John Kerry)
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To: Wisconsin; Another-MA-Conservative

I agree. Get a shotgun and make sure you get a rear pistol grip for it. Makes it shorter and easier to manage in tight quarters.


10 posted on 10/25/2004 8:30:20 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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You anywhere near Attleboro? Try the American Firearms School. I can't recommend them from personal experience, but I've been meaning to go there for ages. You can rent a gun on the premises. It would be excellent for you to try out some before you make a choice, since good guns aren't cheap.

They also do training and video simulation, if memory serves. Unfortunately, I can't check out the site myself. I'm at work, and it keeps giving me the big red hand ;)

11 posted on 10/25/2004 8:31:21 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: Wisconsin; Another-MA-Conservative

In fact it should look like this when you're done.

http://www.tjgeneralstore.com/tacstar.htm


12 posted on 10/25/2004 8:31:56 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

Go to a gun-shop and ask questions but do not be in a hurry to buy.

Go to a range and talk to them. Most will rent by the hour and provide instruction.

Find a buddy or two that are into pistols but be aware that they may have personal biases.

You will hear a lot about the 22 not being a defense gun but you did not say that was your goal.

OTOH, I started my wife off with a 357 Ruger GP loaded with 38's. You can get reasonably priced 38's although not as cheap as 22s.

Check out Ruger 22s. They are lots of fun.


13 posted on 10/25/2004 8:32:27 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: Another-MA-Conservative

I like my Baretta 9mm Mini cougar, but it's a pain to reassemble. My husband's full-size Baretta is nicer.


14 posted on 10/25/2004 8:35:09 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Wisconsin
Foreget the handgun, get a double barrel shotgun

I disagree emphatically. For someone just getting into shooting, a shotgun is the worst possible introduction due to its intimidating recoil.

It's much better to develop good skills with a minimum of flinch and fear, then move into larger firearms such as the double-barrel shotgun.

When I teach complete newcomers, I use the .22 pistol exclusively.

15 posted on 10/25/2004 8:35:21 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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I learned handgunning with an old .38 special double action revolver. Safer and less complex that an auto. Has real knockdown, and can be shot relatively cheaply with remanufactured low power wadcutter loads. If you're stuck on a .22, I'd still consider a revolver.


16 posted on 10/25/2004 8:36:08 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Support John Kerry......... Ho Chi Minh would.)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative; WildTurkey
Yep Ruger Mark II. Like this. Fun and affordable.


17 posted on 10/25/2004 8:38:03 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance, bigotry, envy, and gluttony are a few floor joists in the democratic platform.)
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To: Another-MA-Conservative
Take a concealed weapons course in your state. They will teach you all about the laws in your state, even if you don't want to get a permit. Then go to a gun range and take a safety course.

IMHO - Pistol newbies are best served with revolvers -- either a 22 LR or 38 special S&W would be my recommendation. If you want an auto to shoot for life, get a 1911 -- to get started buy the 22LR conversion kit. You only need one 1911 and it will last a lifetime.

If you want a rifle, a 22LR lever action is a good starting point. Shotgun, a Remington 870 pump will do all you need with a shotgun.

I'm cheap ^_^ --- be safe.

18 posted on 10/25/2004 8:38:29 AM PDT by snooker
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I'd like a "beginner" handgun, initially to just get familiar with them and for inexpensive shooting-range practice. My research so far has led me towards .22 rimfire semiauto pistols as a good starting point.

Yes, they are. I agree.

That said, I'm thinking about the Beretta U22 Neos 6.0... any good? It's gotten good reviews in the mags I've read so far and is reasonably priced.

I don't know; I have no experience with it. I have a P22, and it's worked well for me.

I'm also a little nervous about how to go about getting my feet wet in this - I've never even been in a gun shop before. To my understanding, I have to take a training course in order to get a license, and that it's practically impossible to get a CCW license here in MA. Should I join the NRA? How do I find places to shoot? Most seem to be private sportsmens clubs... what's the deal with these?

Well, I can't comment on the legal situation. Definitely join the NRA, no matter what. They maintain a list of firearms-friendly attorneys as well as clubs and ranges. They also sponsor training courses, which I heartily recommend. In fact, I recommend that you take the Basic Pisol course before you do anything else.

19 posted on 10/25/2004 8:39:02 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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Speaking as a former USMC rifle & pistol coach, range record-setter and current gun owner, I'd concur with your choice of the .22 for a first caliber pistol and would add a proviso not to over-spend (you'll gain opinions as you gain practice & will soon want a different, more personally suitable pistol). For home defense there's really no doubt but what a short-barreled shotgun or (my choice) a .45 Colt Automatic Pistol is most preferred. Every burglar on the planet knows the sound of those rounds ramming home to the chamber, and 9 out of 10 turns tail. And never forget: that pistol is ALWAYS LOADED.

Parsiphal


20 posted on 10/25/2004 8:40:13 AM PDT by Parsiphal
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