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Bush Beats Kerry in IQ Head-to-Head (not surprisingly)
The Times of India ^ | 10/25/04 | LittleSpotBlog

Posted on 10/25/2004 11:20:37 AM PDT by LittleSpotBlog

IQ Test: Bush outshines Kerry CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2004 04:16:38 PM ] Washington: President Bush is not a bozo; in fact, he may be a near-brainiac.

An American researcher has challenged popular belief and water cooler jokes about Bush's cerebral limitations by arguing - on the basis of available records - that he is not only smart but has a higher IQ than his rival John Kerry.

Based on various academic and military school records including his SAT score (1206), conservative columnist Steve Sailer has calculated that Bush's IQ is between 125 and 130.

That would put him in the "very superior intelligence" category and in the 95th percentile, which means only one out of 20 people would score higher.

In comparison, similar (but not same) records and tests suggest John Kerry's IQ is only around 120, says Sailer in a commentary on the conservative blog www.vdare.com.

Sailer looked at school records and tests both men took when there were enrolling into the US military at age 22 and extrapolated the results to arrive his conclusion.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofindia.indiatimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bush; iq; kerry
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I'm really not surprised by this. In fact, isn't it also true that Bush outshone Gore in his academic scores? How do the claims that Bush is stupid gain traction? Let's keep getting the word out that Bush is the best (and smartest) man for the job!
1 posted on 10/25/2004 11:20:39 AM PDT by LittleSpotBlog
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Beacause Bush does not talk in a elitist, condiscending way like Kerry does.


2 posted on 10/25/2004 11:23:24 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: LittleSpotBlog

But you don't understand. Bush has to be stupid. Otherwhise, what good are all the late night jokes?


3 posted on 10/25/2004 11:23:41 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Click my profile page to see my US Election Atlas Presidential Prediction Map!)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

So what does that to my PSAT score of 1212 when I was a junior in HS. ?


4 posted on 10/25/2004 11:23:52 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Flush John 'Fonda' Kerry)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Perhaps his frat boy reputation and party animal history at Yale has convinced people he is not a genius. His SAT scores are good but would not have put him at Yale if not for his lineage. I am voting for Bush but those are facts.


5 posted on 10/25/2004 11:23:58 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: LittleSpotBlog

They gain traction because Mr. Bush is not very eloquent.

While I have great respect for the man, and do believe he's quite intelligent, it's his speaking skills. They suck.

It just gets worse when you compare him to a demagogue/snake oil salesman who's job in life is to say as many pretty words as fast as possible.


6 posted on 10/25/2004 11:24:37 AM PDT by Kidan (www.krashpad.com)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Because when you play poker it is better to be misunderestimated.

Read Reagan's letters. No dummy there, either.

Clinton was the smartest Democrat President since Wilson. Kerry is an underacieving mediocrity.


7 posted on 10/25/2004 11:24:38 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Pointless. Bush could have scored 1500 on his SAT and the libs would have released a story that his daddy pressured the teachers to raise the scores or give him a break on the tests. The rumours that Bush is not so bright stem from the MSM and the LIBs spin machine.


8 posted on 10/25/2004 11:25:06 AM PDT by msp2004
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To: LittleSpotBlog

I outdid them both. I should be president. Maybe I'll write in my own name.


9 posted on 10/25/2004 11:25:56 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Heinz-Kerry: "The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch.")
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To: Kidan
While I have great respect for the man, and do believe he's quite intelligent, it's his speaking skills. They suck.

The same was true for Thomas Jefferson.

Regards, Ivan

10 posted on 10/25/2004 11:26:03 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: ProudVet77

Brainiac!


11 posted on 10/25/2004 11:26:54 AM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Spaniels for Bush....woo...woo...)
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To: LittleSpotBlog
"Kerry has been fascinated by the Presidency since his adolescence."

He's only interested in being in power, and that, my friends, is a dangerous thing for America!

12 posted on 10/25/2004 11:27:17 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: LittleSpotBlog

My DOG beats Kerry in IQ!


13 posted on 10/25/2004 11:28:15 AM PDT by hushpad
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To: Honestfreedom

of course in those days, they gave a lot of weight to prep school/high school grades as well. in any case, it looks like he is an overachiever (he tries harder) and Kerry is an underachiever. i'll take the overachiever every time.


14 posted on 10/25/2004 11:28:32 AM PDT by avital2
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To: LittleSpotBlog
How do the claims that Bush is stupid gain traction?

Because to self-style progessives, anyone who disagrees with them is either stupid, evil, or both.

15 posted on 10/25/2004 11:28:39 AM PDT by kevkrom (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

"Can I get me an IQ Test here"?


16 posted on 10/25/2004 11:28:44 AM PDT by standupfortruth
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Bush got the rep for being 'dumb' from the MSM and the fact that he is a good'ole boy who talks in simple terms.

The dumbest people are often those who try to impress you with their brains and big words.


17 posted on 10/25/2004 11:28:49 AM PDT by najida (There is nothing friendlier than a wet dog, except for maybe a 100 pound wet dog.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog
Yale tightened up entrance requirements later,

Yes. The baby boomers swamped the colleges the year that Bush entered college.

I heard it was tougher to get into a number of colleges (even mine, which shall remain anonymous) because there were so many more applicants that year than in previous years.

18 posted on 10/25/2004 11:29:32 AM PDT by syriacus (VANESSA Kerry would probably say she's glad her father didn't destroy her for stem cell research.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

John Kerry is an empty suit that is given his lines by Soros and Kennedy. That is why he is not interviewing with the press. He can't answer the hard questions on his own.


19 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:17 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Kerry will bring the Big Dig to Washington in the form of Healthcare becasue thats what liberals do)
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To: marvlus
Kerry has been fascinated by the Presidency since his adolescence

...A fascination which will disappear once he reaches adulthood.

20 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:31 AM PDT by Dataman
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To: Kidan

Bush usually doesnt do to well in canned situationd like the State of the Union, but he is a master at speaking to live crowds that react to him, if you ever watch him speak at a rally and then watch him speak to the congress there is a mile of difference.


21 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:36 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog
BUSH: MBA in Business from Harvard, Flew jets, Ran Texas, Now President.

KERRY: 4 months in Vietnam! 4 years of anti-protest lying, lawyer, Gigalo, 20 years in House and Senate with nothin accomplished......BUT LOOK AT THE HAIR!!!! THAT BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL HAIR!!!!


22 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:40 AM PDT by Bommer (“ Bush met the First Lady at a BBQ? That's Love brotha!" - stainlessbanner)
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To: najida
The dumbest people are often those who try to impress you with their brains and big words.

And it's easy to win a debate if you are brazen enough to lie.

23 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:47 AM PDT by syriacus (VANESSA Kerry would probably say she's glad her father didn't destroy her for stem cell research.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Never judge a persons IQ by the way they talk...

Also, IQ varies dramatically in many individuals depending upon what area of intellect you look at... you can have a language IQ above 150 and a math IQ of 100 for instance.
We don't test properly... all areas are lumped together and the score averaged.

I'd say GWB has a language IQ of 100 and a strategery IQ of about 170 ;-)


24 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:50 AM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: LittleSpotBlog
Victor Davis Hanson put it nicely in his October 22 article...

...Thus while Kerry does well in debates, he in some sense does not do well, since Americans feel he is either their smug professor or cranky grandfather, peeved that he had to descend from Olympus to impart knowledge to the less gifted. Somehow most would rather be wrong with Bush than right with Kerry.
... the Democrats nominated two [lawyers] to lead their ticket. Lawyers’ capital is their verbiage, but in wartime talk pales before action; and when a John Edwards hits the campaign trail, his glibness sounds mellifluous for the first minute, aggravating by the second, and unctuous, if not nauseating, the third.
... Quite simply, the Democrats forgot that their candidates must convince voters, not juries, and that good vocabularies and speaking cadences don’t equate to consistent, commonsense toughness in the face of terrorists.

25 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:50 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProudVet77

So what does that to my PSAT score of 1212 when I was a junior in HS. ?
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Oak Hay... so you cheated !!! ;-))


27 posted on 10/25/2004 11:30:53 AM PDT by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: marvlus
Clinton came out of the womb thinking of the presidency.

Not really a good thing.

28 posted on 10/25/2004 11:31:43 AM PDT by demlosers ( ONI: “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”)
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To: LittleSpotBlog
The Myth of George W. Bush’s Stupidity

Regards, Ivan

29 posted on 10/25/2004 11:32:18 AM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: eno_
You believed Clinton when he claimed to be so smart? Are there any numbers to back it?

The best brilliant people I've met have always been down to earth and self-deprecating because they are truly self-confident. Lesser people always mistake it for yokelism because they just don't get it.

30 posted on 10/25/2004 11:33:19 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: LittleSpotBlog
Go to a Mensa meeting. When you leave, you'll be glad that none of those people are likely to be president.

The President must be strong, decisive, and principled. And mentally stable. Bush has all those qualities. As a secondary feature, it's nice if the President is smart. In Bush's case, he is smart -- so that's a plus. But I don't think it's a requirement.

PS As a member of Mensa, I feel I have a right to poke fun at the odd ducks who usually attend Mensa meetings.

31 posted on 10/25/2004 11:33:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Honestfreedom
His SAT scores are good but would not have put him at Yale if not for his lineage.

Perhaps. That seems to happen pretty often. College applications ask about the parents.

32 posted on 10/25/2004 11:34:41 AM PDT by syriacus (VANESSA Kerry would probably say she's glad her father didn't destroy her for stem cell research.)
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To: tomnbeverly

You could see him, during the debates, searching to recover the necessary lines from his script.


33 posted on 10/25/2004 11:35:06 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Lady Jag

Just my observation: I think Clinton has a very high IQ and is simultaneously an underachiever. Read the Dick Morris book to see what I mean.


34 posted on 10/25/2004 11:35:25 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: standupfortruth
"Can I get me an IQ Test here"? Sure! This is not a trick question and has been around forever and has a non-humorous answer. What's the connection between space shuttle and a horse's ass?
35 posted on 10/25/2004 11:37:19 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: Lady Jag
The best brilliant people I've met have always been down to earth and self-deprecating because they are truly self-confident. Lesser people always mistake it for yokelism because they just don't get it.

Teenagers mistake sophistication for maturity.

Some people don't get beyond that "teenage" stage.

36 posted on 10/25/2004 11:37:32 AM PDT by syriacus (VANESSA Kerry would probably say she's glad her father didn't destroy her for stem cell research.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Gee, I scored 1210 on my SAT. Am I smarter than Kerry, too? Woo hoo!


37 posted on 10/25/2004 11:38:17 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: LiberalagainstFacistB
<Yawn> Is it really so slow over at DonkeyUrine.com that you signed up just to post this?
38 posted on 10/25/2004 11:38:41 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Ronald Reagan belongs to the ages now, but we preferred it when he belonged to us.)
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To: ProudVet77
So what does that (do) to my PSAT score of 1212 when I was a junior in HS. ?

It makes you a weisenheimer?

39 posted on 10/25/2004 11:38:53 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: LiberalagainstFacistB

Welcome to FreeRepublic.


40 posted on 10/25/2004 11:38:59 AM PDT by syriacus (VANESSA Kerry would probably say she's glad her father didn't destroy her for stem cell research.)
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To: eno_

What's the name of Morris' book? I'm an voracious reader but am still hip deep in books to read.


41 posted on 10/25/2004 11:39:20 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: Fresh Wind

"I outdid them both. I should be president. Maybe I'll write in my own name."


Me too, at least based on SAT scores and IQ tests.

I'll be your Veep.


42 posted on 10/25/2004 11:39:21 AM PDT by Blzbba (John Kerry is a jackass.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

My son has a higher IQ than either. He's in the 98th percentile.

I don't really think IQ plays much in being president.

I think the president should be sharp, but he has to be a leader and that is not measured by intelligence.

I personally think that someone with an average IQ and lots of drive and a winning personality can be president. I think it also takes lots of common sense.

I've known lots of smart people, and most of them I wouldn't want as president.


43 posted on 10/25/2004 11:40:52 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Lady Jag
What's the connection between space shuttle and a horse's ass?

The Space Shuttle has three exhaust nozzles.

Do I win?

44 posted on 10/25/2004 11:41:01 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Thereza-Heinz-DiazDeBovar-Greenberg-Wang-"O"'Kerry: PROOF that even the Rich can marry a failure.)
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To: LiberalagainstFacistB

uh, thanks for your input.

why are you against "facists"? is it your face?


45 posted on 10/25/2004 11:41:50 AM PDT by kallisti
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To: MadIvan

"While I have great respect for the man, and do believe he's quite intelligent, it's his speaking skills. They suck."

I kind of get a kick out of the way W can chop up the English language at times. Kerry's blah blah drone would put a rooster to sleep at the crack of dawn.


46 posted on 10/25/2004 11:42:46 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: syriacus
Some people don't get beyond that "teenage" stage.

I won't ask for numbers because I believe I have a feel for it already....it is that big.

47 posted on 10/25/2004 11:43:13 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: LiberalagainstFacistB; Admin Moderator

We have live one here


48 posted on 10/25/2004 11:43:24 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: Gorzaloon
I said connection, not difference.

RANHH!! Wrong!!

49 posted on 10/25/2004 11:44:19 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: MadIvan
"... The same was true for Thomas Jefferson."

That's true, though Jefferson was occasionally prone to eloquent outbursts when he wasn't stuttering in his usual nasally paleo-Redneck accent.

Alexander Hamilton was the man who could hold a crowd spellbound even if they showed up not expecting to like what he had to say.

50 posted on 10/25/2004 11:44:40 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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