Skip to comments.Bush Beats Kerry in IQ Head-to-Head (not surprisingly)
Posted on 10/25/2004 11:20:37 AM PDT by LittleSpotBlog
IQ Test: Bush outshines Kerry CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2004 04:16:38 PM ] Washington: President Bush is not a bozo; in fact, he may be a near-brainiac.
An American researcher has challenged popular belief and water cooler jokes about Bush's cerebral limitations by arguing - on the basis of available records - that he is not only smart but has a higher IQ than his rival John Kerry.
Based on various academic and military school records including his SAT score (1206), conservative columnist Steve Sailer has calculated that Bush's IQ is between 125 and 130.
That would put him in the "very superior intelligence" category and in the 95th percentile, which means only one out of 20 people would score higher.
In comparison, similar (but not same) records and tests suggest John Kerry's IQ is only around 120, says Sailer in a commentary on the conservative blog www.vdare.com.
Sailer looked at school records and tests both men took when there were enrolling into the US military at age 22 and extrapolated the results to arrive his conclusion.
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Beacause Bush does not talk in a elitist, condiscending way like Kerry does.
But you don't understand. Bush has to be stupid. Otherwhise, what good are all the late night jokes?
So what does that to my PSAT score of 1212 when I was a junior in HS. ?
Perhaps his frat boy reputation and party animal history at Yale has convinced people he is not a genius. His SAT scores are good but would not have put him at Yale if not for his lineage. I am voting for Bush but those are facts.
They gain traction because Mr. Bush is not very eloquent.
While I have great respect for the man, and do believe he's quite intelligent, it's his speaking skills. They suck.
It just gets worse when you compare him to a demagogue/snake oil salesman who's job in life is to say as many pretty words as fast as possible.
Because when you play poker it is better to be misunderestimated.
Read Reagan's letters. No dummy there, either.
Clinton was the smartest Democrat President since Wilson. Kerry is an underacieving mediocrity.
Pointless. Bush could have scored 1500 on his SAT and the libs would have released a story that his daddy pressured the teachers to raise the scores or give him a break on the tests. The rumours that Bush is not so bright stem from the MSM and the LIBs spin machine.
I outdid them both. I should be president. Maybe I'll write in my own name.
The same was true for Thomas Jefferson.
He's only interested in being in power, and that, my friends, is a dangerous thing for America!
My DOG beats Kerry in IQ!
of course in those days, they gave a lot of weight to prep school/high school grades as well. in any case, it looks like he is an overachiever (he tries harder) and Kerry is an underachiever. i'll take the overachiever every time.
Because to self-style progessives, anyone who disagrees with them is either stupid, evil, or both.
"Can I get me an IQ Test here"?
Bush got the rep for being 'dumb' from the MSM and the fact that he is a good'ole boy who talks in simple terms.
The dumbest people are often those who try to impress you with their brains and big words.
Yes. The baby boomers swamped the colleges the year that Bush entered college.
I heard it was tougher to get into a number of colleges (even mine, which shall remain anonymous) because there were so many more applicants that year than in previous years.
John Kerry is an empty suit that is given his lines by Soros and Kennedy. That is why he is not interviewing with the press. He can't answer the hard questions on his own.
...A fascination which will disappear once he reaches adulthood.
Bush usually doesnt do to well in canned situationd like the State of the Union, but he is a master at speaking to live crowds that react to him, if you ever watch him speak at a rally and then watch him speak to the congress there is a mile of difference.
KERRY: 4 months in Vietnam! 4 years of anti-protest lying, lawyer, Gigalo, 20 years in House and Senate with nothin accomplished......BUT LOOK AT THE HAIR!!!! THAT BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL HAIR!!!!
And it's easy to win a debate if you are brazen enough to lie.
Never judge a persons IQ by the way they talk...
Also, IQ varies dramatically in many individuals depending upon what area of intellect you look at... you can have a language IQ above 150 and a math IQ of 100 for instance.
We don't test properly... all areas are lumped together and the score averaged.
I'd say GWB has a language IQ of 100 and a strategery IQ of about 170 ;-)
...Thus while Kerry does well in debates, he in some sense does not do well, since Americans feel he is either their smug professor or cranky grandfather, peeved that he had to descend from Olympus to impart knowledge to the less gifted. Somehow most would rather be wrong with Bush than right with Kerry.
... the Democrats nominated two [lawyers] to lead their ticket. Lawyers capital is their verbiage, but in wartime talk pales before action; and when a John Edwards hits the campaign trail, his glibness sounds mellifluous for the first minute, aggravating by the second, and unctuous, if not nauseating, the third.
... Quite simply, the Democrats forgot that their candidates must convince voters, not juries, and that good vocabularies and speaking cadences dont equate to consistent, commonsense toughness in the face of terrorists.
So what does that to my PSAT score of 1212 when I was a junior in HS. ?
Oak Hay... so you cheated !!! ;-))
Not really a good thing.
The best brilliant people I've met have always been down to earth and self-deprecating because they are truly self-confident. Lesser people always mistake it for yokelism because they just don't get it.
The President must be strong, decisive, and principled. And mentally stable. Bush has all those qualities. As a secondary feature, it's nice if the President is smart. In Bush's case, he is smart -- so that's a plus. But I don't think it's a requirement.
PS As a member of Mensa, I feel I have a right to poke fun at the odd ducks who usually attend Mensa meetings.
Perhaps. That seems to happen pretty often. College applications ask about the parents.
You could see him, during the debates, searching to recover the necessary lines from his script.
Just my observation: I think Clinton has a very high IQ and is simultaneously an underachiever. Read the Dick Morris book to see what I mean.
Teenagers mistake sophistication for maturity.
Some people don't get beyond that "teenage" stage.
Gee, I scored 1210 on my SAT. Am I smarter than Kerry, too? Woo hoo!
It makes you a weisenheimer?
Welcome to FreeRepublic.
What's the name of Morris' book? I'm an voracious reader but am still hip deep in books to read.
"I outdid them both. I should be president. Maybe I'll write in my own name."
Me too, at least based on SAT scores and IQ tests.
I'll be your Veep.
My son has a higher IQ than either. He's in the 98th percentile.
I don't really think IQ plays much in being president.
I think the president should be sharp, but he has to be a leader and that is not measured by intelligence.
I personally think that someone with an average IQ and lots of drive and a winning personality can be president. I think it also takes lots of common sense.
I've known lots of smart people, and most of them I wouldn't want as president.
The Space Shuttle has three exhaust nozzles.
Do I win?
uh, thanks for your input.
why are you against "facists"? is it your face?
"While I have great respect for the man, and do believe he's quite intelligent, it's his speaking skills. They suck."
I kind of get a kick out of the way W can chop up the English language at times. Kerry's blah blah drone would put a rooster to sleep at the crack of dawn.
I won't ask for numbers because I believe I have a feel for it already....it is that big.
We have live one here
That's true, though Jefferson was occasionally prone to eloquent outbursts when he wasn't stuttering in his usual nasally paleo-Redneck accent.
Alexander Hamilton was the man who could hold a crowd spellbound even if they showed up not expecting to like what he had to say.