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Our Coming Electoral Train Wrecks
Tech Central Station ^ | 10/22/2004 | William J. Stuntz

Posted on 10/25/2004 6:06:38 PM PDT by farmfriend

Our Coming Electoral Train Wrecks

By William J. Stuntz

Four years ago, Al Gore got half a million more votes than George W. Bush -- about one-half of one percent of the total -- but, thanks to Florida, Bush won the electoral vote. Democrats have been outraged ever since. What would happen if Bush or Kerry were to win the popular vote by three or four million votes -- but still lose in the electoral college? Welcome to the Mother of All Legitimacy Crises. And to the Administration That Cannot Govern.

It could easily happen. Based on the polls reported at www.realpolitics.com, Bush is running well ahead of his 2000 performance in the I-95 corridor. (Michael Barone wrote a wonderful column about this phenomenon a couple of weeks ago.) Kerry will still win Maryland, New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut. But he will win them by smaller margins than Gore did. If Bush improves on his 2000 performance in the South and West -- easily possible, given that a New Englander and not a Tennesseean is heading the Democratic ticket -- he could pile up a margin of a few million votes, and still lose Ohio and Iowa and with them the election.

Democrats would call that poetic justice, and maybe they're right. But it can't be good for the country to have something America has never seen before: two consecutive Presidents who lost the popular vote. One of them by a lot.

We have come closer to this particular train wreck than people think. In 1896, William Jennings Bryan lost the popular vote to William McKinley (Karl Rove's second-favorite President) by more than four percentage points. But a shift of 20,000 voters -- about one-seventh of one percent of the total -- in six states would have given Bryan an electoral-college victory. Woodrow Wilson won the popular vote in 1916 by more than three percentage points, the equivalent of a three-million-plus vote margin today. But if Charles Evans Hughes had persuaded 1,900 more Wilson voters in California -- two-tenths of one percent of that state's vote -- he would have won the White House. In 1948, Harry Truman ran four-and-a-half percentage points ahead of New York Governor Thomas E. Dewey; a comparable margin today would be nearly five million votes. Change 3,600 votes in Ohio and 9,000 in California, and the 1948 election goes to the House of Representatives. Change another 17,000 votes in Illinois, and Dewey wins outright. Each of these changes represented less than half of one percent of the relevant states' votes.

In 1976, it almost happened again. Jimmy Carter beat Gerald Ford by 1.7 million votes nationally, two percent of the total. Change 5,600 votes in Ohio and 7,300 in Mississippi, and Ford is the one walking down Pennsylvania Avenue on January 20, 1977.

Of course, all these near-misses are still misses. Not since 1876 has a candidate won the popular vote by as much as a full percentage point while losing in the electoral college. But that pattern is likely to be broken -- if not this year, then soon. And often.

Consider an important feature of all the elections mentioned above. Neither Bryan nor McKinley knew which six states would decide the White House in 1896. (In case you're wondering, they were West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, North Dakota, Oregon, and California.) Neither Wilson nor Hughes knew that California would decide the contest in 1916, anymore than Truman or Dewey expected their election to turn on Ohio, Illinois, and California. Even in 1976, the art of opinion polling was sufficiently imprecise that neither campaign was likely to guess that Ohio and Mississippi would hold the keys to the kingdom.

That ignorance was good for American democracy. It meant that candidates had to run national campaigns. To be sure, for most of our history Republicans could ignore the South, which regularly rolled up large Democratic majorities. And most years, Democrats could ignore Republican strongholds in New England and the Upper Midwest. (Times have changed; the two parties' geographical bases have switched sides.) But no presidential candidate could afford to focus all his energies on a handful of "battleground states" -- those states existed, but no one could know in advance where they were.

Today, Karl Rove knows. So do Bob Shrum and Mary Beth Cahill. Polling is miles better and more sophisticated than it was even a generation ago, when Gerald Ford almost snuck by Jimmy Carter. Which means that America is not really selecting the President on November 2. Ohioans and Iowans and New Mexicans are. (I may not have the right three states, but you can bet that the campaigns do.) And if one of these two campaigns makes better, more targeted investments in the right two or three states, that campaign will carry the day -- even if millions more Americans vote for the other side.

Two other changes in the political landscape make that scenario likely. As recently as 1960, forty-five percent of the voters cast their ballots in states decided by three points or less. In 2000, the number was fourteen percent. In 1960, Kennedy and Nixon won nine states by fifteen points or more. In 2000, Bush and Gore won twenty-two states (plus the District of Columbia) by margins that large. Safe states, once the exception, are now the rule. Swing states, once common, are few. The second change involves advertising. The rise of cable makes it easy for candidates to speak to small slices of the electorate. Campaigns can focus their attention, time, and money where those things will do the most good -- and write off large chunks of the country. The odds of a Bryan or Dewey winning the election while losing the popular vote by several percentage points are much higher as a consequence.

That isn't good for American democracy. We've always known that the Electoral College allows minority presidents. But today, it virtually guarantees them. Over time, as polling and communication become more precise, candidates' electoral vote totals will correlate less and less with the nationwide popular vote. We could have a string of seemingly illegitimate presidencies.

Plainly, the machinery is broken and needs fixing. The Electoral College could still serve a useful role -- with two changes. First, get rid of the electors: human electors are a disaster waiting to happen, an invitation to bribery, fraud, or simple stupidity. Just give each candidate the number of electoral votes he earns on election day. Second, make each state do what Nebraska and Maine do: give one vote to the winning candidate in each congressional district, and two votes to the candidate who wins the state. It's not perfect, but it's a pretty good way to make sure that Presidents have broad, geographically diverse support without having the election turn on one or two states. It would work even better if the Supreme Court -- where are activist judges when you need them? -- would ban partisan gerrymandering, so we could have more close districts.

America was lucky to escape Presidents Bryan, Hughes, and Dewey. But our luck is running out. We need to change the system, and soon.

In the meantime, I'm rooting for a landslide.

William J. Stuntz is a Professor at Harvard Law School.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cliffhangers; elections; electoralcollege; electoralvote; historypreselections
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I was going to make www.realpolitics.com a link but it takes you to www.amerika.com, an air america radio site. Boo Hiss.
1 posted on 10/25/2004 6:06:38 PM PDT by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend

I love these people who think they know better than the founders how the constitution should be today. Leave it alone, it saved us from Gore and so it must be OK. General elections can be like the Jerry Springer show and people sometimes are as dumb as bricks, the Electoral college was instituted to save us from ourselves. This is a liberal ploy because they know their stick isn't selling as well anymore.


2 posted on 10/25/2004 6:11:02 PM PDT by DSBull (Liberal logic: the most mutually exclusive words in the universe!)
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To: farmfriend

The reputable analysis (according to Dick Morris) is that one can not win the EV by any plausible scenario with a PV deficit of more thn 0.7%.


3 posted on 10/25/2004 6:11:29 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: farmfriend

The House would object to a close state and change the vote. Also, electors would be forced to change their vote, potentially even before that.


4 posted on 10/25/2004 6:11:57 PM PDT by MichaelTN04
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To: farmfriend

it's www.realclearpolitics.com.


5 posted on 10/25/2004 6:14:17 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Beelzebubba

I do agree with removing the "human electors" portion and making the electoral vote automatic, but that's it.


6 posted on 10/25/2004 6:14:54 PM PDT by Tacos
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To: farmfriend

Without the electoral college, Los Angeles, San Fransisco, NYC and other blue metropolises would decide the election for all.


7 posted on 10/25/2004 6:15:55 PM PDT by umgud (Donate monthly, don't be a Freeploader)
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To: farmfriend

Don't let ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, NBC
give the election to Kerry like they did Gore

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1255413/posts


8 posted on 10/25/2004 6:16:03 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: farmfriend
I'm guessing the place you probably meant to go to is:
www.realCLEARpolitics.com
9 posted on 10/25/2004 6:16:44 PM PDT by DefCon
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To: farmfriend

There are too many problems with the voting systems for this to be feasible. The electoral college, while not ideal, localizes and isolates vote fraud while giving the states most similar to the country at large a larger say.


10 posted on 10/25/2004 6:17:51 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: farmfriend

Bzzztt!! Wrong!!

Then gerrymandering congressional districts becomes even more important than it is. Then redistricting battles every ten years would make the current battles look like picnics.

Really, really bad idea.


11 posted on 10/25/2004 6:19:30 PM PDT by sitetest (Why does everyone get so uptight about toasted heretics??)
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To: farmfriend

You could write this article almost every election. The fact that it COULD have happened in 1896, 1916, 1948 and 1976 (and presumably 1960 and some other close elections) seems to indicate that this is a fairly common possibility.

I'm not sure I like all these articles that claim that every time the Electoral College is at odds with the popular vote, Democracy is imperiled. The United States is SUPPOSED to be a collection of sovereign governments. The Electoral College was DESIGNED to INFREQUENTLY choose the President. It was a compromise from a more parliamentarian way of choosing an executive.

One could just as easily argue that every time the President is not the same party as the Speaker Of The House that democracy is thwarted.


12 posted on 10/25/2004 6:20:17 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (How do you ask a goose to be the last goose to die for the Kerry campaign?)
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To: farmfriend
Second, make each state do what Nebraska and Maine do: give one vote to the winning candidate in each congressional district, and two votes to the candidate who wins the state.

I recall that someone did this analysis for the 2000 election finding that the result of the electoral college was pretty close to the current system. Of course with the 2000 election you would have Bush v. Gore on a national scale as the candidates tried to pick up electoral votes district by district.

13 posted on 10/25/2004 6:21:34 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: farmfriend
What would happen if Bush or Kerry were to win the popular vote by three or four million votes -- but still lose in the electoral college?

Then the Electoral College as a fraud containment device will have worked.

-PJ

14 posted on 10/25/2004 6:22:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: farmfriend

Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment and I'd go along with assigning electors by district.


15 posted on 10/25/2004 6:22:31 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: farmfriend
...Democrats would call that poetic justice, and maybe they're right. But it can't be good for the country to have something America has never seen before: two consecutive Presidents who lost the popular vote. One of them by a lot...

I think the good professor forgot that clinton also was opposed by a majority of the American citizens.

16 posted on 10/25/2004 6:23:06 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: farmfriend

Legitimacy crisis? Sure hope Shyster Stuntz doesn't teach Constitutional Law.


17 posted on 10/25/2004 6:25:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: farmfriend
All this hand wringing over the electoral college misses the point of it.

I was discussing this subject with a Russian a few days ago and she said, "I really wish we had the electoral voting like the U.S. because all the elections are governed by the voters in Moscow. They do not know or care what we want in Kazakhstan or anywhere else..(paraphrased)"

18 posted on 10/25/2004 6:25:43 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: farmfriend
What would happen if Bush or Kerry were to win the popular vote by three or four million votes -- but still lose in the electoral college?

Nothing. Although I'm a Bush partisan, should Kerry wins the EC but lose the "popular vote" (which is meaningless) by 3 or 4 (or 25!) million, I will say Congratulations President Kerry and may your four years be successful and prosperous ones.

Why, what would the author's reaction be?

But it can't be good for the country to have something America has never seen before: two consecutive Presidents who lost the popular vote. One of them by a lot.

I think it's perfectly fine for the country to abide by its Constitution. The possibility of having a President lose the "popular vote" only comes about because our two parties are so close and compete so fiercely for the marginal voter. This is what one would expect in a winner-take-all system that is functioning properly.

Electoral-college victories based on 60-40 or more "popular vote" splits wouldn't necessarily bode well for our country. It would mean something was wrong if one or the other party started racking up a 60-40 or more coalition.

Even in 1976, the art of opinion polling was sufficiently imprecise that neither campaign was likely to guess that Ohio and Mississippi would hold the keys to the kingdom. That ignorance was good for American democracy. It meant that candidates had to run national campaigns.

Hmm. I'm not so sure why that's so "good". Consider the current situation, candidates are able to identify a handful of states whose populations are close to 50-50. So they focus on those states' concerns. What's wrong with that? It seems to me that this provides incentives for people who live in one-party states to stop being so monolithic. No candidate will care about California or Texas so long as they vote monolithically. This suppresses the power of the single-minded blocs in those states. Isn't that a good thing?

We all understand this logic when it's applied to black voters, don't we? That blacks have suffered by voting such knee-jerk Democrat tickets every election? Well, same thing here. If states want to be power players they need to moderate and move away from extreme loyalty to one party or the other. Seems healthy to me.

That isn't good for American democracy. We've always known that the Electoral College allows minority presidents. But today, it virtually guarantees them. Over time, as polling and communication become more precise, candidates' electoral vote totals will correlate less and less with the nationwide popular vote. We could have a string of seemingly illegitimate presidencies.

Virtually no sentence written here is true. It's good for American "democracy" (I prefer "democratic republicanism"). The EC doesn't "virtually guarantee" minority presidents at all. The EV totals will not correlate "less and less" with popular vote (decorrelation has a limit). And no minority president is "illegitimate", and what does "seemingly" mean? Seemingly to whom? Not me.

First, get rid of the electors: human electors are a disaster waiting to happen, an invitation to bribery, fraud, or simple stupidity. Just give each candidate the number of electoral votes he earns on election day.

I'm ok with this.

Second, make each state do what Nebraska and Maine do: give one vote to the winning candidate in each congressional district, and two votes to the candidate who wins the state.

AFAIK any state may do this if they want. Few states want, for understandable power-politics reasons. To force them to, I guess, would require a Constitutional amendment. Sorry no.

It's not perfect, but it's a pretty good way to make sure that Presidents have broad, geographically diverse support without having the election turn on one or two states.

No, it's a good way to incentivize Presidents to focus all their energies on population centers. "New York, Chicago and LA areas" do not constitute a broad, geographically diverse support base.

It would work even better if the Supreme Court -- where are activist judges when you need them? -- would ban partisan gerrymandering, so we could have more close districts.

Gerrymandering is bad and all but that's a different issue.

America was lucky to escape Presidents Bryan, Hughes, and Dewey.

??? I don't get this part. What reason has the author to think those guys would have been all that bad compared to their opponents?

In the meantime, I'm rooting for a landslide.

Well ok we agree on something. :-)

19 posted on 10/25/2004 6:25:44 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: umgud

"Without the electoral college, Los Angeles, San Fransisco, NYC and other blue metropolises would decide the election for all."


You betcha...that would be the end of this nation.


20 posted on 10/25/2004 6:27:19 PM PDT by eleni121 (Islam arose as an ideological movement against Rome/Byzantium...nothing has changed)
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