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UN INspectors Found Nothing At Al-Qaqaa ON March 8, 2003

Posted on 10/26/2004 12:31:01 PM PDT by Prince Charles

Copyright 2003 Valley Daily Bulletin
  Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (Ontario, CA)
April 4, 2003 Friday
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Troops encounter unknown chemical items

As the military advances closer to Baghdad, signs of Iraqichemical preparedness are multiplying, although there is still no conclusive evidence Saddam Hussein's regime possesses weapons of mass destruction.

On Friday, troops at a training facility in the westernIraqi desert came across a bottle labeled "tabun" a nerve gas and chemical weapon Iraq is banned from possessing.

Closer to Baghdad, troops at Iraq's largest militaryindustrial complex found nerve agent antidotes, documents describing chemical warfare and a white powder that appeared to be used for explosives.

U.N. weapons inspectors went repeatedly to the vast al QaQaa complex most recently on March 8 but found nothing during spot visits to some of the 1,100 buildings at the site 25 miles south of Baghdad.

Col. John Peabody, engineer brigade commander of the 3rdInfantry Division, said troops found thousands of 2-by-5-inch boxes, each containing three vials of white powder, together with documents written in Arabic that dealt with how to engage in chemical warfare.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; dirtytricks; iaea; iaeagate; iraq; kerrylies; mediabias; napalminthemorning; nytrogate; qaqaagate; rats; un; wot
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To: milwguy

I think what we are getting at is the fact this has been known for over a year.


51 posted on 10/26/2004 12:56:19 PM PDT by jbstrick (This tagline has passed the "Global Test")
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To: Prince Charles
"... I found this gem with a Lexis-Nexis search."

Is it any wonder why the old traditionalist & mainstream news media sued FreeRepublic to keep us from archiving their stories here?

They want to be able to lie and not get caught doing it.

52 posted on 10/26/2004 12:57:29 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Now now. We all know they moved 380 tons of ammo back into the facility after the UN left. Then it was stolen by a caravan of Bedouin.

Or leprechauns.

Via Czechoslovakia.

53 posted on 10/26/2004 1:02:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: Prince Charles
Please forward this to the Associated Press who is reporting such silliness as: Possibility raised that explosives had disappeared before U.S. soldiers secured Al-Qaqaa complex
54 posted on 10/26/2004 1:05:49 PM PDT by standupfortruth
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To: Prince Charles

Someone send this to NBC and Lai Lang Jew.


55 posted on 10/26/2004 1:07:30 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Prince Charles

Excellent find, Send it to Brit Hume of Fox News


56 posted on 10/26/2004 1:07:42 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Prince Charles
Here's a link to an ASSOCIATED PRESS story from April 5, 2003

U.N. weapons inspectors went repeatedly to the vast al Qa Qaa complex - most recently on March 8 - but found nothing during spot visits to some of the 1,100 buildings at the site 25 miles south of Baghdad.
It is pretty much the same story. I wonder if the NY Times is going to deny the Associated Press as a legitimate source?
57 posted on 10/26/2004 1:08:32 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: Prince Charles

Oh man...


58 posted on 10/26/2004 1:08:42 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Praying for President Bush and VP Cheney. Praying for the Favre family.)
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To: Prince Charles; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; blam; SunkenCiv; doug from upland; Howlin; Mo1; MEG33; ..

Dynamite!!!!


59 posted on 10/26/2004 1:09:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Prince Charles

Qa Qaa KerryGate!


60 posted on 10/26/2004 1:09:36 PM PDT by RushCrush (Donate NOW! RNC, Swifties, and John Thune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Saw that. Why the Bush team isn't responding to this is a mystery.


61 posted on 10/26/2004 1:11:05 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Prince Charles

Careful, folks. "Nothing" refers to WMD, not RDX or HMX. The "white powder that appeared to be used for explosives" mentioned in this release could actually be the explosives the Times was talking about.


62 posted on 10/26/2004 1:11:16 PM PDT by Phocion
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We ain't gonna take the lies from the liberals any more

They want a fight ... They got one!


63 posted on 10/26/2004 1:12:58 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: Prince Charles

Check this out:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257780/posts


64 posted on 10/26/2004 1:13:27 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Prince Charles

You are a prince indeed. I knight thee, Sir Prince Charles (is that redundant?). Thou name shall be spoken in kind with the great Buckhead and the honourable Howlin. We giveth all thanks and glory to God, and to one of His most wonderous gifts that humbleth our enemies and aideth our friends -- Lexis-Nexis.


65 posted on 10/26/2004 1:14:33 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Prince Charles; jmstein7; OXENinFLA; Howlin; Mo1; Grampa Dave; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
To the BM (Big media )


66 posted on 10/26/2004 1:15:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Rakkasan1

fyi


67 posted on 10/26/2004 1:16:45 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: StAnDeliver; Buckhead; TankerKC

Where is buckhead and tankerkc?


68 posted on 10/26/2004 1:18:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Prince Charles

The DemonRATS will say that this just states the UN inspectors did not find any CHEMICAL or BIOLOGICAL weapons.

This report does raise the question as to why the UN weapons inspectors did not check on the status of the HDX/RDX they now allege was there a few months before.


69 posted on 10/26/2004 1:22:57 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: Prince Charles

BTTT


70 posted on 10/26/2004 1:23:16 PM PDT by EdReform (Have you seen FAHRENHYPE 9/11? - www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240926/posts)
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To: Mo1

Exactly!


71 posted on 10/26/2004 1:23:42 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: All

***this article does NOT disprove the NYT story***

However, this one does:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1257780/posts

Why? This Lexis-Nexis find is in the context of WMD's and not finding WMD's specifically. The linked article there talks about weapons in the context of WMD's and explosives in general. And, the 3rd found white powder, not the stuff supposedly missing.

The linked article is a legit find and supports NBC's piece from last night.

Send it to various news orgs.


72 posted on 10/26/2004 1:28:00 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

To late ...


73 posted on 10/26/2004 1:28:20 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: michigander
Col. John Peabody, engineer brigade commander of the 3rd Infantry Division, said troops found thousands of five-centimetre by 12-centimetre boxes, each containing three vials of white powder, together with documents written in Arabic that dealt with how to engage in chemical warfare. A senior U.S. official familiar with initial testing said the powder was believed to be explosives. The finding would be consistent with the plant's stated production capabilities in the field of basic raw materials for explosives and propellants.

I believe you are right...but I don't see how thousands of tiny bxes add up to 380 tons. Nor does it prove it were still there April 10.

74 posted on 10/26/2004 1:34:00 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: lugsoul
Finding "nothing" would seem to indicate that they didn't find what they were looking for, i.e. WMD. Multiple other reports state that the seals on the bunkers containing the high explosives were still in place at the time of this inspection. In other words, this article doesn't establish that the explosives weren't there in March 2003, and various others say they were.

I have to agree. In fact, it would have been news if the seals had been broken and the explosives missing at that point.

75 posted on 10/26/2004 1:37:40 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 ("Don't bother giving me liberty: I'll take it for myself, thanks.")
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To: Phocion

'Careful, folks. "Nothing" refers to WMD, not RDX or HMX. The "white powder that appeared to be used for explosives" mentioned in this release could actually be the explosives the Times was talking about.'

Ok, riddle me this. We're talking 380 TONS OF EXPLOSIVES

When IAEA said 'NOTHING', how could they have meant nothing at all and NOT mention 380 TONS of explosives?

Besides all that. After the site was taken and "secured" by the army, no chance in hell anybody could just come by and take 380 TONS of explosives from there! That's totally impossible even by the standards of those who tell stories about Ali Baba and the 40 thieves.


76 posted on 10/26/2004 1:39:48 PM PDT by concan
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To: Mo1

Do the arithmetic.


77 posted on 10/26/2004 1:40:34 PM PDT by Fred Fighter (Don't trust me! Read for yourself.)
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To: concan

Um... I think that's the point. The site wasn't "secured."


78 posted on 10/26/2004 1:42:35 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Prince Charles
Lexis-Nexis Prince Charles gem bump
79 posted on 10/26/2004 1:43:12 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Fred Fighter
Somebody please tell the Pentagon...
80 posted on 10/26/2004 1:44:06 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Cold Heat

ping


81 posted on 10/26/2004 1:45:56 PM PDT by rennatdm
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To: lugsoul

The site was secured means: The military didn't leave anything behind that could have been used by the enemies. You think for a minute that any officer would have given the orders to leave this compound unattended, knowing that there would be 380 TONS of stockpiled explosives? They didn't find any of that stuff - period end of story. The NBC reporter said that or her lack of reporting that means they didn't find anything.


82 posted on 10/26/2004 1:47:43 PM PDT by concan
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To: lugsoul

The site was secured means: The military didn't leave anything behind that could have been used by the enemies. You think for a minute that any officer would have given the orders to leave this compound unattended, knowing that there would be 380 TONS of stockpiled explosives? They didn't find any of that stuff - period end of story. The NBC reporter said that or her lack of reporting that means they didn't find anything.


83 posted on 10/26/2004 1:47:51 PM PDT by concan
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To: xkaydet65
The white powder story is from FOX 18 months ago and nothing ever came of it.I'd think if the white powder was WMD we might have heard about it before this.

I agree that the context indicates that "nothing" in this story refers to WMD, not what they had sealed and tagged. However, the "white powder" was determined to be run of the mill explosives and was not the 380 tons of HMX and RDX that is the centerpiece of this attack on President Bush. When our troops arrived, the 380 tons was missing.

84 posted on 10/26/2004 1:48:02 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Prince Charles; All
From last night's NBC story, the place wasn't "empty" when our troops arrived. They found *conventional* weapons but not the 380 tons of highgrade explosives that this latest hit on President Bush is based on.

NBC BLOWS A HOLE IN NY TIMES' EXPLOSIVES STORY (KERRY SPOT)

NBC News: Miklaszewski: “April 10, 2003, only three weeks into the war, NBC News was embedded with troops from the Army's 101st Airborne as they temporarily take over the Al Qakaa weapons installation south of Baghdad. But these troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing. The U.S. troops did find large stockpiles of more conventional weapons, but no HMX or RDX, so powerful less than a pound brought down Pan Am 103 in 1988, and can be used to trigger a nuclear weapon. In a letter this month, the Iraqi interim government told the International Atomic Energy Agency the high explosives were lost to theft and looting due to lack of security. Critics claim there were simply not enough U.S. troops to guard hundreds of weapons stockpiles, weapons now being used by insurgents and terrorists to wage a guerrilla war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 10/25/04)

85 posted on 10/26/2004 1:51:07 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: The KG9 Kid

"Is it any wonder why the old traditionalist & mainstream news media sued FreeRepublic to keep us from archiving their stories here?

They want to be able to lie and not get caught doing it."

Excellent point -


86 posted on 10/26/2004 1:52:25 PM PDT by M. Peach (eschew obfuscation)
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To: Rutles4Ever

"Then it was stolen by a carvan of Bedouin"

It was brought to the Syrian border as a wedding present. Very large wedding party, you understand. Lots of guests, too.


87 posted on 10/26/2004 1:53:36 PM PDT by VRWCer (All things work together for good to them that love God. - Romans 8:28)
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To: milwguy
The white powder is the high explosive that the NYT is so up in arms about.

The "white powder" was not the 380 tons of HMX and RDX.

88 posted on 10/26/2004 1:53:49 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Prince Charles

Bump for later read. Thanks!


89 posted on 10/26/2004 1:56:29 PM PDT by Lady In Blue (On Election Day,President Bush: "WIN ONE FOR THE GIPPER!")
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To: Phocion
"Nothing" refers to WMD,

I agree

not RDX or HMX. The "white powder that appeared to be used for explosives" mentioned in this release could actually be the explosives the Times was talking about.

I don't agree. The "white powder" was tested and found to be an explosive, but it was not the tagged by the UN material, nor was it identified as HMC or RDX. As Jim Mik reported, our troops with the embedded reporters reported finding large caches of conventional weapons (the white powder falls into that category) but not the 380 tons of HMX or RDX.

90 posted on 10/26/2004 1:57:45 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

The substance in the "tiny boxes" was not identified as the HMX or RDX at issue.


91 posted on 10/26/2004 1:59:38 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Red Badger

This is excellent. NYT reporters don't even come close to doing their professional jobs, when the Freepers can find this stuff on Lexis.


92 posted on 10/26/2004 2:00:23 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: cyncooper; Prince Charles

The March 2003 inspectors visit is being reported today at least on MSNBC that the RDX or HMX seals were still there, seals not broken.


93 posted on 10/26/2004 2:01:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: cyncooper

And even the conventional explosives would not have been left behind w/o either destroying them or taking them in. It's totally unbelievable that the "white powder" would have been tested and identified and then just neglected. just a bunch of balloni.

The real question here is, what happened with 380 Tons of highly explosive material when even the UN couldn't find it shortly before the army got there????


94 posted on 10/26/2004 2:01:49 PM PDT by concan
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To: Fred Fighter

I'd respond but looks like you got yourself BANNED


95 posted on 10/26/2004 2:03:19 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: Prince Charles
I just heard VP Cheney blast Kerry over this story. That the weapons were NOT there when Our troops arrived and he talked about the 400,000 tons that they did find and are destroying. And the best part of this was, I am listening to CBS Radio...
96 posted on 10/26/2004 2:05:05 PM PDT by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: concan
Jeez, have you even read the reporting on this? The NBC reporter, who was with the 101st - NOT the 1st US troops to arrive at the site and leave shortly thereafter - noted a "vast amount" of explosive material "lying around." They left to go to Baghdad the next day. And did not conduct an extensive search of the area.

So, they did find stuff. You got any evidence that they didn't leave it unattended?

97 posted on 10/26/2004 2:05:10 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Prince Charles
Site Meter

They just haven't learned WHEN TO SAY WHEN. Mega Bump: http://kmclive.com.

98 posted on 10/26/2004 2:07:13 PM PDT by KMC1
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To: TexKat

That doesn't make sense to me.

The UN claims to have found "nothing" on March 25th 2003 during a spot visit to the site. "Nothing" referring to WMD as in ABC weapons (we can assume that, or not?).

But remembers that the seals on HMX and RDX were still intact and didn't mention the stockpile of 380 Tons of that material any further?

This whole story stinks!

The UN was bribed by Saddam with 'oil for food' and the UN wasn't supposed to find anything.

Of course there were WMD in Iraq before April 2003. All major intelligence agencies from Moscow, Berlin, Paris to Washington knew this! Of course we couldn't find anything once we invaded the country because Saddam had ample time to get this stuff out of the country, sell it to Al Kaida or whoever was knocking at his doors during those last final hours. Saddam knew his time had come and he was a desperate guy. Saddam himself or parts of his regime were in the cahoots with Al Kaida.


99 posted on 10/26/2004 2:09:52 PM PDT by concan
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To: lugsoul

Where does it say that the NBC reporter identified the stuff as explosives?


100 posted on 10/26/2004 2:12:40 PM PDT by concan
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