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A new frontline for Islamic anger . . . . Thailand
The Times ^ | October 28, 2004 | Andrew Drummond

Posted on 10/27/2004 3:46:44 PM PDT by MadIvan

THAILAND faced furious protests from Islamic countries and organisations yesterday as horrific details emerged of the deaths of 78 Muslims in military custody on Monday.

A Muslim separatist group in the south of the country vowed to take revenge on Bangkok with “fire and oil” after Thaksin Shinawatra, the Thai Prime Minister, promised an inquiry but failed to apologise for the excruciatingly painful way in which anti-government demonstrators died at the hands of Thai authorities.

Six people were killed on Monday during clashes with security forces in the southern Narathiwat province apparently sparked by the arrests of six Muslims suspected of stealing weapons. More than 1,300 other demonstrators were summarily arrested and transported in army trucks to a barracks further north in Pattani.

Before being loaded five deep into the vehicles, the demonstrators had their shirts torn from their backs and were made to lie down in the scorching heat for several hours.

Khunying Pornthip Rojanasunant, deputy director of Thailand’s Forensic Science Institute, said the 78 victims died from a mixture of suffocation and heat stroke during five hours in the trucks. But bones also appeared to have been broken as the demonstrators were forced into the vehicles. Two or three of the victims were said to have suffered broken necks.

Mr Thaksin, who recently tried to acquire Liverpool and Fulham Football Clubs, said: “There were some mistakes. The army did not have enough trucks to transport them so they had to pile them up on top of each other and they died. We are sorry they met an untimely death.”

The day before he had blamed the deaths on religious fasting during Ramadan. “They just collapsed because they were in a weak physical condition. Anti-riot forces did not touch them. They did not kill any protesters,” he insisted.

Some were “repeat offenders who had instigated many protests in the past,” he added, while others were under the influence of drugs. “If we’re soft, they’ll think we are caving in. I won’t have it.”

The Prime Minister was condemned inside and outside Thailand. Bangkok’s Nation newspaper stated: “Thaksin may not have been directly responsible for them being crammed into military trucks like pigs headed for slaughterhouses, but the troops’ demonstration of hatred and disregard for humanitarianism simply reflected how the country is being governed. How the Government handled the aftermath is equally scandalous. No words of apology. No explanation from top government officials.”

Pictures of the victims were shown on the website of al-Jazeera, the Arabic satellite television station, and threatened to inflame Islamic sentiment around the world. Al-Jazeera quoted a spokesman for Thailand’s southern separatist Pattani United Liberation Organisation promising vengeance. “We pledge before Allah that from now on the infidel will suffer sleepless nights. Their capital will be burned down. The property they have robbed from us will be totally destroyed and their lives will face the consequences of the sins they have committed.”

Thailand’s stock market fell by 3 per cent over fear of retaliation. Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, the Prime Minister of neighbouring Malaysia, warned Mr Thaksin that “in the month of Ramadan incidents of this nature can bring a lot of unhappiness and create anger”.

Iran called the killings unacceptable. Washington joined the calls for a full investigation. The Thai authorities were “responsible for the humane treatment of prisoners,” a State Department spokesman said.

Four per cent of Thailand’s 63 million people are Muslim.

THE STRUGGLE FOR INDEPENDENCE

# In 1902 the Sultanate of Pattani was annexed by Thailand. The Muslim and Malay population launched separatist movements to end rule by Buddhist Thailand

# Muslims dominate the extreme South of Thailand where it borders on Malaysia

# Muslims now comprise 4 per cent of the Thai population, approximately 2.5 million

# In the 1980s the area was relatively peaceful but poor governance of Southern Thailand increased social discontent through the 1990s

# At least 8 militant groups support the struggle for independence and are mostly based around the coastal town of Pattani

# In 2000 authorities responded to separatist action in the south with military force, killing Saarli Taloh-Meyah, leader of the Pattani United Liberation Organisation

# In 2003 Thai police broke up a cell of the Islamic militant group Jemaah Islamiyah and foiled a plot to bomb embassies in the country

# More than 400 have been killed in clashes between Muslims and the Thai authorities since January

# On 5 January 2004 the Prime Minister declared martial law in the most affected southern provinces — Narathiwat, Pattani and Yala


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; southeastasia; thailand
To Thailand:


Welcome to the party, pal!

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 10/27/2004 3:46:44 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; lightingguy; EggsAckley; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/27/2004 3:47:11 PM PDT by MadIvan (Gothic. Freaky. Conservative. - http://www.rightgoths.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Fire and oil? They haven't looked at oil prices lately. I'm betting its fire and hummis instead.


3 posted on 10/27/2004 3:50:08 PM PDT by RtWngr
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To: MadIvan
Just a thought. Is there any country in this world that has a sizable Muslim/Islam population that doesn't have a problem?
4 posted on 10/27/2004 3:51:08 PM PDT by rocksblues (Sorry John, we remember and will never forget your treason!)
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To: MadIvan

"...failed to apologise for the excruciatingly painful way in which anti-government demonstrators died at the hands of Thai authorities..."

And beheading at the hands of subhuman Muslim pigshit filth, isn't excruciatingly painful?

Either way, they're dead via horror. Tit for tat, Islamic trash! Checkmate, scumbags.


5 posted on 10/27/2004 4:03:47 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: rocksblues

No.


6 posted on 10/27/2004 4:04:59 PM PDT by twntaipan (Question: Just how many OTHER SeeBS stories were frauds?)
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To: rocksblues

Indonesia's been pretty quiet lately (most of their separatist movements are Christian or secular)... but who knows?


7 posted on 10/27/2004 4:12:08 PM PDT by Bulldog96
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To: Bulldog96

They brought it upon themselves. For some reason I'm not upset about this.


8 posted on 10/27/2004 4:41:12 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (TooDamTall1@yahoo.com - BUSH / CHENEY / 2004 !)
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I hope Thailand kills them all. These are nothing but terrorists. I happened to be visiting Thailand when they killed several hundred in an uprising in the south. The muslims had been beheading buhddist monks, terrorizing communities, policemen, shutting down schools etc. Good riddance, and I don't care how miserably they died, they deserved it, and I hope Thaksin kills some more.


9 posted on 10/27/2004 4:47:30 PM PDT by michaelbfree
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To: michaelbfree

Agreed and I don't think there is any need for an apology for the way these terrorists died. If they didn't want to die that way, they should have stayed peaceful and lawabiding. If they can't do that in Thailand, Thailand has no obligation to treat them gently. These are murdering thugs.


10 posted on 10/27/2004 5:12:32 PM PDT by Judith Anne (The last time Kerry said "Reporting for duty!" he betrayed his comrades, his flag, and his country.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Right On!!!! It's time to feed AlQaeda filth and their Sancho Panzas at AlJazeera to ravenous hogs!


11 posted on 10/27/2004 5:27:28 PM PDT by Pragmatist (Our Federal Union: Esto Perpetua!)
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To: MadIvan

No leashes; no panties; no problem.

Now if they had been humiliated, rather than just killed, I might be upset with this.

Might be, but probably not..


12 posted on 10/27/2004 6:15:09 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: MadIvan

Yippe Khei Yeah.


13 posted on 10/27/2004 6:21:12 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Chani

for later consumption


14 posted on 10/28/2004 5:19:35 PM PDT by Chani
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To: MadIvan
"Malaysia's former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has urged Bangkok to consider giving autonomy to southern Thailand's Muslim Malay majority."

Right ....Mohammad Mahathir suggesting that Thailand just hand over a good sized chunk of their country to the frothing Islamic murderers . In your dreams pal !
The time is coming when the separatist Moslems from the South pull off some huge atrocity in some area other than the South and the vast millions of Thais will rise up and wholesale slaughter mass amounts of Moslems in retaliation. Tens of thousands of
'poor downtrodden moslems' will then stream across the Malay border creating a new humanitarian crisis . One of their own incitement. Mahathir should retire into his next lifetime and Thailand should issue an ultimatum to it's moslems that they should either calm down and get along with other Thais or think about moving on....
15 posted on 10/29/2004 1:08:34 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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