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ABC News - IAEA Says only 3 tons of high explosives left at Al QaQuaa when last checked
ABC World News Tonight | 10/27/2004 | Martha Radditz

Posted on 10/27/2004 4:18:45 PM PDT by hadrian

I looked to see if anyone else had posted this - I apologize if I missed it - about 8 minutes into ABC World News Tonight, Martha Radditz ended up her report on the missing explosives with words to this effect:

Peter, late breaking information from IAEA is that when they last inspected the Al QAQaa facility in (January? March?) 2003, there were not 180 tons of high explosives, but only 3 tons.

She did qualify that I think by stating a particular type of high explosive - either MX(?) or the other of the two types, but whatever it was, sounds like there might have been a lot less left to be "missing" at any time the US forces could have been there.


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Sorry I don't have an exact transcript - and I don't think I was hearing things - but it really struck me as relevant.
1 posted on 10/27/2004 4:18:46 PM PDT by hadrian
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To: hadrian



October Surprise???

How about an OCTOBER DUD YOU CLOWNS!!! MUAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHA

Bush by 320 EV!!! It's all over for Kerry/DNC/MSM.


2 posted on 10/27/2004 4:20:33 PM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: hadrian; All
Let me get this straight. The NYT issues a bogus story on missing explosives. Kerry then makes it a key part of his campaign. Then the NYT reports on the new theme of Kerry's campaign. Then Kerry makes an ad touting the NYT story.
 
Here's a fast grab of all the links & relevant commentary I have so far:
 
 Kerry is running with "missing explosives" lie for his final push
 
  Deqonstruqting Qaqaagate, take 2
 
  PLN Exclusive - IAEA Not Contrite, US Admin “livid" Over Apparent Effort To Influence US Election
 
 Soldier At Al Qa Qaa Coming On Hannity Radio Show
 
  NY Times Flashback: Paper Reported Saddam Transferred High Explosives
 
 Bush addresses CBS / NYT / Kerry October (explosives) surprise in PA
 
 The media plays 'trick or treat'  The media are too busy repackaging old Iraq news in an October offensive against President George W. Bush's reelection to investigate truly startling evidence unearthed this week that the Communist Party may have been directing John Kerry's anti-war activities in the early 1970s
 
  Feb. 2003 UN Report: Saddam Moving Explosives From Al-Qaqaa
 
 Urgent Warning on Iraqi Cache Issued in 1995
 
  Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!
 
 CBS eyed '60 Minutes' Bush bombshell
 
 NYTrogate, Tora Bora, Put Kerry Back In His Element: Slamming the Military
 
Media Shamelessly Shilling for Kerry and Kerry Brazenly Lying
 
 
Invitation to a Defrauding (links CBS's 2003 article : U.S. Searches 'Suspicious' Iraqi Site
 
 Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!
 
Media Watchdog: 'October Surprise' Blows Up in Faces of NY Times, CBS News
 
 Kerry Ad Promoting LIES about Missing Explosives Is LIVE 
 
 Be prepared [call to action on Kerry ad based on explosive lies]
 I've read the Kerry ad. It may be built on deceptions and half truths but it's an effective ad and it will require not rebutting but refutation.
 President Bush needs to make a statement; have a press conference - something straight from the President himself and NOW. . .stop the lies. . .stop the misinformation. . .stop the Kerry camp in it's tracks. . .NOW; by stepping up and out. . .taking advantage of his position as President so speak directly to the people. He should have a 'fireside' everynight. . .or Press conference every day. . .
 NBC Video vs. Kerry Campaign Video... ~4:41pm~ EST
SEEMS INCREDIBLE THAT NEARLY 24 HOURS AFTER NYTIMES STORY IS BLOWN AWAY - JOHN KERRY CONTINUES TO USE IT ON THE TRAIL: The Daily Recycler has done everyone in the blogosphere a tremendous service by editing together Kerry's specific statements and the actual truth from NBC News. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE (1:27), LISTEN HERE TO THE 3 HOUR EXPOSE we did on air today.
 
 **CALLING ALL 101st AIRBORNE MEMBERS, AIRTIME TO TELL YOUR STORY**
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT [10/26 05:23 PM] --
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257884/posts
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT
 
 Toronto Star continues to lead with false weapons report
 
 Hanoi Kerry attacks 101st Airborne in "Ammogate" smear ad.
 
 
 60 MINS PLANNED BUSH MISSING EXPLOSIVES STORY FOR ELECTION EVE  "Do they have something else to spring on us on Thursday? That's supposed to be the time to have the maximum impact on the election...that's when the DUI story was released in 2000."
 Question seems to be IS THIS THEIR BEST SHOT?? I'm confident it won't be their last.
 
Missing Explosives Story Missing Facts
NYTrogate--
  http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/nytrogate.html
 
 

Rush just read a CNN story from 1/2003 "Al Aqaa a WMD site"...anyone have a link (vanity)
  The Iraqi explosives story CBS and the New York Times ran yesterday is a fraud. These weapons were not there when US troops went to this site in 2003. The IAEA and its head, the anti-American Mohammed El Baradei, leaked a false letter on this issue to the media to embarrass the Bush administration.  Here you go:

Link to CNN Story

 http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/24/sprj.irq.inspections/index.html

Here is a link to DRUDGE story on it:

Link to DRUDGE story

 Fox also had an article about Qa Qaa Site:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83252,00.html

 
 UN Report in 2003 notes Iraq "lost" HMX & converted remaining HMX stocks into "industrial explosive"  Uh oh, looks like the MSM got caught with it's pants down again.
 
 

As I said yesterday, Joe Lockhart on the Kerry-Edwards conference call yesterday said the missing explosives: "Central issue for the rest of the campaign."

This is their October Surprise and they have nothing else but vote fraud. They have to go with this story no matter if it is a lie or not. They have nothing else. Desperation has set in for the Dems and it is blowing up in their face.

We in the "New Media" need to keep telling everyone we know that this story is a "LIE" and Kerry is a liar as well as MSM

 Edwards rips Bush for lost Iraq explosives (Will Edwards apologize now?)  I have been contacting the media sources that are continuing the missing explosives lie trying to pressure them to issue retractions and to get Kerry Campaign people to comment on the latest information about this story that they have been using as a political attack against President Bush. I urge you all to do the same.
 
 
 Why don't they just call it the Oct 25th Surprise, since they have a new one everday.
 This is not the real October surprise- it's too early for the critical hit; there's a whole week for the story to be shot at and sunk - The real attack comes at the end of week and is directed at Bush's character, a follow-up to the Kitty Kelly and Dan Rather types of attack.
 
  THE DITTOCAM IS ON! Live Rush Thread   Rush is ripping CBS, NYT, and Kerry a new one. (LOVING IT)  
I have a feeling that this is going to hurt CBS and Kerry in the long run. I am glad that NBC came forward with their footage showing the explosives were moved before we took Baghdad. You would think that CBS and Dan Rather would have learned their lesson after Memo-gate-- In a lot of workplaces today (and for the next week) people are fixating on the election. It's topic #1 in conversations. So even if the MSM doesn't get on it, those of us of the PJ platoons can burn peoples ears off at work about it.
 
 
 "what's coming out now is just old useless info. Am I wrong?"
I believe you are correct, if they had anything, anything at all they would have used it by now. They are recycling old news- remember the national guard story they tried to resurrect and put some extra pepper on it by sending in FAKE documents. Again the bloggers came to the rescue and were the first to prove the documents as false. Everything they have tried to throw at this president has fallen flat on its face-
 
 "Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard."
Another CLASSIC case of guilt by accusation. The truth didn't matter, only the accusation. And once again, the MSM jackals run full tilt with the story, without adequate corroboration, as long as they had any chance of smearing President Bush. The decades long practice of MSM lies, smears, and propaganda against Republicans continues.
 
 
 
 Drudge now reporting Iraq depot story was shopped to CBS' 60 minutes before reported by NYT   60 Minutes wanted to report this garbage on election eve...
 Dear God these people at CBS and in the MSM are desperate to bring down a sitting POTUS...at any cost. I suspect anything and everything reported as NEWS for the last half century from the MSM...
 
 Kerry wants answers on missing explosives
 It's on the CNN website http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html I sent a copy to myself, just in case it disappears.
 "Are you keeping up with this on the thread about Hanoi Documents: Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman"
 See page 25 of THE FBI FILES
 More to investigate for the John F. Kerry Timeline.
 Here's the direct link to the WinterSoldier.com article that this WorldNetDaily article is summarizing:
 What ironies! Bob Woodward and the press fought to bring to light the Watergate facts. Today, the MSM consciously avoids the facts and it is left to ordinary patriots to uncover the rot. Well done.
 Link
 I've known all this (not about Kerry, specifically, but the war protestors) since my days in military intelligence. I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.
 

3 posted on 10/27/2004 4:20:46 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: hadrian

It's obvious the evil genius Rove got to ABC.


4 posted on 10/27/2004 4:22:06 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
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To: backhoe

you are a genius


5 posted on 10/27/2004 4:22:46 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: hadrian

Oh please let this be true. Kerry will be more of a laughingstock than he already is.


6 posted on 10/27/2004 4:23:01 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: backhoe

LOL!! The MSM is falling apart like the Tower of Sauron. First, CNN (especially Lou Dobbs) jumps from the sinking ship like rats, then NBC, and now ABC!! Also, ABC "surrendered" the Terrorist video to the CIA where the Kerry-fans terrorists threaten one of our largest (and liberal) cities with "blood running in the streets" and a calamity worse than 9/11.


7 posted on 10/27/2004 4:23:15 PM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: Josh in PA

However, tomorrow being the Thursday before the election, be aware.

But if the bird flip is an indicator, it should be fun.


8 posted on 10/27/2004 4:23:39 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Truth is not Partisan)
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To: hadrian

That's incorrect.


9 posted on 10/27/2004 4:23:53 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: hadrian

STRUCK YOU AS RELEVANT ?!?!?

GEEZ, THIS IS THE BIGGEST NEWS OF THE WEEK!!!!!


10 posted on 10/27/2004 4:24:42 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: hadrian

So in other words, IAEA told Iraq to move the explosives to a "safer location" - and they did - somewhere so safe the stuff hasn't been seen since.. and they FORGOT THIS WHEN THEY TOLD NYT/CBS IT WAS MISSING?


11 posted on 10/27/2004 4:24:53 PM PDT by cgk (I'll keep posting it until you READ IT. Pay attention!)
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To: the Real fifi

ok, what is the correction?


12 posted on 10/27/2004 4:25:50 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graft post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Kill Allawi and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: the Real fifi

what did she say then? That part was about her last 5-10 seconds and she was holding a piece of paper so it did look liek late info.


13 posted on 10/27/2004 4:25:55 PM PDT by hadrian
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights


Honestly.. I believe Kerry thought it would be closer going into election.

I believe the long-term plan WAS to initially release this story on 60 minutes on Sunday Night if the race was a dead-heat, to break 1% or 2% in Kerry's favor on the final days before the truth could get out.

But they determined they were so far behind in the polls that there best hope would to be release it early and hope it festers for a week.


380 TONS OF EXPLOSIVES JUST BLEW UP IN KERRY'S DROOPING FACE!!!


14 posted on 10/27/2004 4:26:00 PM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: backhoe

bump


15 posted on 10/27/2004 4:26:01 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: the Real fifi

care to elaborate?


16 posted on 10/27/2004 4:26:35 PM PDT by Kylie_04
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To: backhoe

It's all Karl Rove's fault. He moved the explosives before the war began. He is storing them in a foot locker in his basement.

Also, I have a tinfoil hat for sale for the Johns.


17 posted on 10/27/2004 4:26:43 PM PDT by noname07718
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To: backhoe

Once again, I am in awe. Thank you.


18 posted on 10/27/2004 4:27:25 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (I want to have fanatical henchmen when I grow up.)
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To: the Real fifi

Transcript needed.


19 posted on 10/27/2004 4:27:43 PM PDT by right way right
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To: Kylie_04

If anyone else heard the report, or knows how to find ABC transcripts, I'd appreciate any confirmation -


20 posted on 10/27/2004 4:27:53 PM PDT by hadrian
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To: hadrian

This story was a planned lie from the beginning, just as the Rather's memo-gate was.

The lib/dems know it is a lie. Even Kerry does. Yet, all day today, he has been out yelling it again and again.

Why?

== Tell a big enough lie or lie enough times, and part of it is bound to stick. ==

That is all Kerry wants--some of the lie to stick and maybe sway a few more votes his way.


21 posted on 10/27/2004 4:27:56 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: Rokke

I always thought J Fing Kerry was 377 tons short of a full load.


22 posted on 10/27/2004 4:28:02 PM PDT by embedded_rebel
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To: hadrian
So it looks like the IAEA checked while Saddam was removing the materials and did nothing. It was the responsibility of the United Nations to destroy the explosives, and as usual, the UN failed.

Now remember that John Kerry is running on a platform of giving this incompetent organization even more "responsibility".
23 posted on 10/27/2004 4:28:42 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: backhoe

THIS IS A HUGE SET OF LINKS, I CANT EVEN GO THROUGH THEM ALL.

But we may not need to - if the ABC News pans out, that only 3 tons remained, they will have proven this WHOLE STORY TO BE A DUD. 3 tons, out of 600,000 TONS That was in Iraq. No wonder the 101st didnt find anything - proof it wasnt there. Now we still have the curious IAEA statements that imply it was lost after their last inspection, so we have to cross check but ...

IF TRUE, TIME TO BUY BUSH FUTURES ON THE PRESIDENTIAL MARKET TRADING ... IF THIS IS TRUE, KERRY IS TOAST!!!


24 posted on 10/27/2004 4:29:04 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: embedded_rebel

I always thought J Fing Kerry was 377 tons short of a full load.

LOL!


25 posted on 10/27/2004 4:29:34 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: hadrian

Is Peter Jennings throwing a tantrum?


26 posted on 10/27/2004 4:30:44 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: backhoe

Thank you for these extensive resources.


27 posted on 10/27/2004 4:31:04 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: hadrian

If true, this is very good news--problem is 3 tons is still 3 tons, and the Kerry people/MSM will now go "6000 POUNDS MISSING!!!" But at least this puts Kerry on the defensive about his rush to cast judgement.


28 posted on 10/27/2004 4:31:26 PM PDT by ctv1116
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To: noname07718

Did anyone ever ask Al Gore just how big his lockbox was?? And just where is that lock box? This may answer the missing explosive question.


29 posted on 10/27/2004 4:33:00 PM PDT by forward
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To: backhoe

Wow! Thanks for the post. Kind of one-stop shop for information.

But, do try and get out of the house more :)


30 posted on 10/27/2004 4:33:04 PM PDT by TexanByBirth
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To: hadrian

Exactly what sorts of idiots, nincompoops and goofballs are running the IAEA?


31 posted on 10/27/2004 4:33:14 PM PDT by Califelephant (Senator Kerry is full of Qaqaa.)
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To: the Real fifi

Hey fifi, where'd you go. You can't just walk in, drop a turd in the livingroom and then leave without explaining yourself.


32 posted on 10/27/2004 4:33:20 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: hadrian

Now this IS interesting! LOLOL

Poor Kerry; going to end up with egg all over his face.


33 posted on 10/27/2004 4:33:31 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
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To: hadrian

On my blog I hae links to the IAEA testimony in feb 2003, where they DID mention that all the RDX had been moved from this site. but the other type (MNX?) was verified as still there according to january 2003 site visit.


34 posted on 10/27/2004 4:33:32 PM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: hadrian

bump


35 posted on 10/27/2004 4:33:40 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: WOSG

This is a collosal blockbuster if true...not just because it makes Kerry look like the idiot that he is.

If the explosives were under seal and not to be touched or moved, and the IAEA went back in March and found only 3 tons, THEN WHY DIDN'T THEY RAISE HOLY HELL IN MARCH 2003 AT THE U.N. AND ON THE WORLD STAGE THAT SADDAM WAS PLAYING GAMES WITH PROSCRIBED WEAPONS??????


36 posted on 10/27/2004 4:34:47 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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To: ctv1116

That's 2.7 million grams of explosives that could be used against us!


37 posted on 10/27/2004 4:34:48 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: hadrian

This was all supposed to come out after the 60 Minutes hit and Kerry election. They knew the story was bogus and would unravel after 48 hours. The question is when and how do we get rid of CBS, the NYT and the rest of the MSM?


38 posted on 10/27/2004 4:35:21 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: embedded_rebel
I always thought J Fing Kerry was 377 tons short of a full load.

hehehe.

He could scrape that much make-up off his face the way it is caked on his face to hide the wrinkles.
39 posted on 10/27/2004 4:35:22 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: Josh in PA
380 TONS OF EXPLOSIVES JUST BLEW UP IN KERRY'S DROOPING FACE!!!

Josh, Josh, Josh. I am surprised at you. How inappropriate.

Have you seen Denzel's movie "Man on Fire" ? (Great movie, very violent)

He is ex-CIA guarding a little girl in Mexico. She is kidnapped and he has vowed to find them all and to kill them.

He catches up with one man. They are under a bridge and the man is naked, tied down to the hood of his car. Denzel needs information. To get the information, Denzel has planted explosions in the man's rectum (I told you it was violent.)

Denzel gets the info, Bad man gets the Big Bang.

So Josh, learn from the master:

380 TONS OF EXPLOSIVES JUST BLEW UP IN KERRY'S DROOPING ARSE!!!

Just having a little fun-hope you are not offended...

40 posted on 10/27/2004 4:35:51 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Truth is not Partisan)
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To: WOSG

Putting my tin foil hat on for a moment -- over the weekend word leaked of a surprise story about Kerry to be released on Monday. Then this story -- which was first scheduled for a week later -- gets dusted off a week early and released. Is it possible that Mr. Rove leaked word of a surprise (which turned out to be minor) in order to coax this story out first when there would be time to get the truth out? Ah . . . I'm sure someone else has brought that up . . . taking the hat off now :-)


41 posted on 10/27/2004 4:35:58 PM PDT by MrEddieLaRue
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To: hadrian
Hmmmmm, I think this likely has something to do with the Iraqi request to move a bunch of the stuff for industrial use.

This is relevant, because the IAEA does not know how much they actually moved.

On their last check, they did not go into the bunkers, they only checked the seals and took Saddam's word.

All these huge tonnage numbers are based on the January count, not the amount remaining after the request to move. They never recounted the stuff and have no leg to stand on in this regard.

It is all BS from the IAEA and we know why.(Oil for bribes)

42 posted on 10/27/2004 4:36:26 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: All

anyone have verification of this?


43 posted on 10/27/2004 4:36:30 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: hadrian
MX?

Possibly Semtex, of Czech manufacture.

44 posted on 10/27/2004 4:36:31 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: hadrian

when are they going to get their story right? before they told the UN that 30 tons were missing, in January 2003


45 posted on 10/27/2004 4:36:35 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: hadrian

So the IAEA "misplaced" 177 tons of high explosives before they even left Iraq? LOL!!

Oh, right Senator, it's the troops fault they couldn't guard what the U.N. allowed to be lifted before the war started.


46 posted on 10/27/2004 4:37:08 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: backhoe

Good job with the thread compilation.
Thanks for posting.
Bookmarked.


47 posted on 10/27/2004 4:37:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: WOSG

Link?


48 posted on 10/27/2004 4:37:58 PM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: hadrian

WAIT A MINUTE: Is this the reason the IAEA is changing their story -- because they now realize that removing 180 tons sounds ridiculous, but that 3 tons could be "looted" with just a few trucks?


49 posted on 10/27/2004 4:38:43 PM PDT by Califelephant (Senator Kerry is full of Qaqaa.)
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To: lancer

In the meantime, the DU and Arafat are running neck and neck in the coma department.


50 posted on 10/27/2004 4:39:11 PM PDT by Jose Roberto
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