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WHY KERRY WILL LOSE EARLY AND BADLY - (The states he should be winning but isn't)
WMCA, New York/THE KERRY SPOT ^ | 10.27.2004

Posted on 10/27/2004 6:26:06 PM PDT by KMC1

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Depending on the turnout (wink, wink), I am beginning to believe that Kerry will conclude one of the most miserable campaigns for President ever by losing in states he "shouldn't" be early on election night.

Today a new poll showed again that President Bush is dead even with Senator Kerry in New Jersey. This is unbelievable. Al Gore walked away with New Jersey early in the evening in 2000. But if Kerry loses it my prediction is for Bush to almost run the board.

The reasons why Kerry is doing badly in New Jersey is partly not his own doing but his party's. New Jersey has the most corrupt state government in the entire Union. The Democrats are in control of everything - and as could be expected - everything is a mess. Governor McGreevey named his gay lover to the position of "Homeland Security Advisor", the man wasn't even a U.S. Citizen, nor could he even get the clearance needed to attend Federal security briefings. And this is happening in the second most impacted state following 9/11.

BUT weren't those "boys nights out" fun...

The Democratic corruption has left a bad taste, but voters in New Jersey are also realizing that they don't have any state-wide elected officials that they really had a voice in putting there. McGreevey is stepping aside and an "appointed" Governor will run the state for 18 months. One of the Senators bought his way to the Senate. The other was a bait and switch for New Jersey voters.

Look for a voter's rebellion...sick of the corruption, New Jersey voters will choose President Bush as their choice, even some out of protest.

With the 16 electoral votes that go with it, New Jersey will significantly change the electoral college count. And if it goes BUSH early on Tuesday night - a state that BUSH spent almost no money in, Kerry can kiss the White House goodbye.

When you add to the New Jersey equation the fact that Kerry is trailing in Hawaii - which was an 18% win for Gore in 2000 - those combined 20 electoral votes are as big as Ohio. (Another state that President Bush is leading in...)


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1 posted on 10/27/2004 6:26:07 PM PDT by KMC1
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To: KMC1

And Bush still has a half a case of Whoop A$$ left.


2 posted on 10/27/2004 6:30:10 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: KMC1

I like it,fingers crossed


3 posted on 10/27/2004 6:30:23 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life....)
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To: jocko12
What will be funny is if the Democratic fraudulent teams concentrated in what they perceived to be "swing" states, ignored blue states and that is where Kerry loses.
4 posted on 10/27/2004 6:32:08 PM PDT by elizabetty
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To: cmsgop

And this will add to the pile of horse pucky that the major news networks know what they're doing by calling the election close!


5 posted on 10/27/2004 6:32:20 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: KMC1
<nitpick>
"...With the 16 15 electoral votes that go with it, New Jersey will..."
</nitpick>
6 posted on 10/27/2004 6:33:35 PM PDT by DefCon
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To: jocko12

Kerry's staff must be $hitting their collective pants now. If he (Kerry)was defending the Alamo, the east wall was just breached... (my sincere apologies to all the son's and daughters of Texas liberty).


7 posted on 10/27/2004 6:34:14 PM PDT by Highwayman53
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To: KMC1
For those of us chewing our fingernails down to the nub, when will we KNOW that Bush is having a good night?? About what time? or what states need to come his way?


Dayum I need to up the prozac.

8 posted on 10/27/2004 6:35:52 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: KMC1

Well, this is a happy article!!!


9 posted on 10/27/2004 6:36:04 PM PDT by Siouxz (Freepers are the best!!)
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To: KMC1
The Democratic corruption has left a bad taste

Given McGreevey's sexual preferences I'd say this is an accurate statement....

10 posted on 10/27/2004 6:36:51 PM PDT by freebilly (Freebilly O'Reilly-- No Spin But Good Vibrations....)
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To: KMC1
I've been waiting for this kind of post to make a few observations.

Most of the battleground states are in the Eastern Time Zone (plus a few like New Jersey that shouldn't be in play for Bush, but somehow still are). We have Florida (except the panhandle, of course), Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and we should know what has happened in Maine and New Hampshire, all before most of the rest of the nation is home to see the results on the tube.

New York could even be surprisingly close, but should go to Kerry. If Bush wins even half of these, and Republican senatorial candidates in the Carolinas, Georgia, and Florida are cruising, it might be over for Kerry much earlier than anyone suspects. I know Florida could run late as last time, when the Democratic bastions in South Florida wait to turn in vote totals, so they know how many votes they need to manufacture, but it may be out of their reach.

An hour later that evening will have Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota done. If the late (after work) voters there hear that Bush is winning states in the Eastern Time Zone that he shouldn't, then we could pick up some late undecideds who "just want to vote for the winner", which could tip all those states to Bush. If that happens, everything west of the Central Time Zone will be academic.

11 posted on 10/27/2004 6:38:34 PM PDT by willgolfforfood
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To: KMC1

KERRY IS TRAILING HAWAII??? LOLOL


12 posted on 10/27/2004 6:39:32 PM PDT by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: KMC1
Thank you for supplying positive vibes. Thanks
13 posted on 10/27/2004 6:39:32 PM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Probably be able to tell by the body language of talking heads on the various news sources. They will have exit polls from first thing in the AM. If Rather looks like a "ratttlesnake that has been laying on a texas highway at highnoon in July" you know Kerry is in trouble.
Actually Rather's voice is a give away too.
14 posted on 10/27/2004 6:39:39 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (W stands for Winner)
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To: KMC1

Even more noteworthy than New Jersey is Hawaii. Hawaii sort of exists in a vacuum-- there's no advertising dollars spent there, no get out the vote drives, and nobody is campaigning there. I wonder what people see and hear in Hawaii that makes a 20 point Kerry lead evaporate that the rest of the country is supposedly missing. It makes you wonder how close things really are or aren't. Not that I'm getting complacent...


15 posted on 10/27/2004 6:40:08 PM PDT by Ragnorak
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To: KMC1

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16 posted on 10/27/2004 6:40:57 PM PDT by maggief (... riots afterwards ... Liz Edwards, "...not if we win.")
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To: KMC1

Union workers in Atlantic City have been picketing (they are on strike) since October 1, so I imagine they are a little more concerned about the new replacements coming in for their jobs than getting some rich New Englander to the Oval Office.


17 posted on 10/27/2004 6:41:45 PM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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To: KMC1

I believe Hawaii might be the most tell-tale sign I've seen, not to mention MINNESOTA BABY!


18 posted on 10/27/2004 6:41:48 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Ragnorak

I might run for president just to make frequent campaign appearances in Hawaii...


19 posted on 10/27/2004 6:43:13 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: KMC1

I would have loved for Bush to campaign deep in the heart of Kerry bases in cities such as Boston, Chicago, Seattle, and L.A. on the final leg of his campaign. Really drive some nails into Kerry's coffin by holding rallies downtown smack dab in the middle of these socialist paradises. Unfortunately, he's coming to Green Bay, WI on Saturday(for the thousandth time) again to speak to the choir. Bush could have finished with a bang and demoralized the Kerry campaign.


20 posted on 10/27/2004 6:44:02 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: KMC1

You really need to reformat this article into type that is easily readable. Tiny blue type doesn't work for us bifocal types.


21 posted on 10/27/2004 6:44:04 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: willgolfforfood
No, parts of Michigan are Central ...
22 posted on 10/27/2004 6:44:33 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... say "yah!" to da U. P.! ...])
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To: KMC1

We're always hearing how Bush is having trouble defending some of the states he carried in 2000, especially Ohio and Florida. What's not being emphasized by the MSM is the large number of Gore states that Kerry is having troubles in such as Iowa, Wisconsin, New Mexico, and New Jersey and Hawaii. When New Jersey goes for Bush I can't wait to see the look on the faces of Brokaw, Jennings, and especially that jerk Rather when they have to announce it.


23 posted on 10/27/2004 6:45:37 PM PDT by midftfan
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To: KMC1
I live here. I went to Bush's appearance in Burlington County NJ earlier in the month. The enthusiasm for Bush in my part of New Jersey is phenomenal. I live in Atlantic County and for every Kerry sign there are at least 30 Bush signs, and while the Kerry signs are on the occasional street corner, almost every Bush sign is in front of somebody's house. In my neighborhood, we've already had a Republican party hosted by someone who just moved here from Maine. I'd never even HEARD of a Republican party before. Our RNC office is incredibly busy and fully staffed with phone bank volunteers from our local college. I was living in Wisconsin during 2000. New Jersey is like Bush campaign rally in comparison. Watch New Jersey to be the sleeper win that will be the early clincher of the election.
24 posted on 10/27/2004 6:46:24 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: SoftballMominVA

even if kerry wins, remember that you survived eight years of xxxlinton, ... only 3 legislators(senators) have ever been elected and the last one was jfk... plus kerry's going up against an incumbent, a strong one unlike 41... i predict a romp, but that's just me


25 posted on 10/27/2004 6:46:59 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Good ol' Coney Island College. Go WhiteFish.)
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To: KMC1
What will help us in NJ is that the dems weren't planning a fraud brigade here as they had no clue. It's a little late now and McSleazy has lost his power base and they have no reason to work for his party.

It wasn't just Cipel who was used and abused, it was the entire state when Cipel was chosen to be the homeland security liason.

26 posted on 10/27/2004 6:48:54 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg
I would have loved for Bush to campaign deep in the heart of Kerry bases

Nah, it would have backfired on the President. There would have been a lot of protests and the people who wanted to see him would have been beaten down by union thugs and other assorted Kerry groupies. Better to just play it safe and rally the base.

I see your point, however...

27 posted on 10/27/2004 6:48:57 PM PDT by No-Compromise Conservative
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To: SoftballMominVA
For those of us chewing our fingernails down to the nub, when will we KNOW that Bush is having a good night??

Don't just chew your fingernails. Call the 72 hour or 96 hour task force and walk precincts this weekend. Take tuesday off work and poll watch. You can make a difference and it's a lot more fun than worrying :)

28 posted on 10/27/2004 6:49:33 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: elizabetty
What will be funny is if the Democratic fraudulent teams concentrated in what they perceived to be "swing" states, ignored blue states and that is where Kerry loses.

In the history of the US there has never been 2 close elections next to each other. We always think everything is new, but it isn't.

29 posted on 10/27/2004 6:50:30 PM PDT by The Bat Lady (Lighting the fires of Liberty, one heart at a time!)
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To: SoftballMominVA

...though my preference would be for W to win by one electoral vote again, just to honk off the left in a HUGE way


30 posted on 10/27/2004 6:50:39 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Good ol' Coney Island College. Go WhiteFish.)
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To: Ragnorak
The dems have run beautiful Hawaii into an economic dumpster. They know they need a republican to turn it around for them.

If I am not mistaken, they have a republican governor and it seems Inouye and Shinseki have been silent.

31 posted on 10/27/2004 6:50:57 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: KMC1

Sounds like good news!

Just keep gettin' the word out. The truth will tell.

...mebbe I can get some sleep when this is over...


32 posted on 10/27/2004 6:51:50 PM PDT by wrbones (Where'd I put my tin foil hat....)
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To: KMC1
I think Bush will win at least 40 states. I won't be complacent because I think Bush can win Michigan and I intend to help him.

I hope everyone in hard blue states votes like they're a half point down for the sheer numbers.
33 posted on 10/27/2004 6:52:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: OldFriend

If you guys in NJ don't elect Bret Schundler for Governor, then you might as well secede to North Korea.


34 posted on 10/27/2004 6:52:46 PM PDT by ServesURight (Tim Michels for U.S. Senate Wisconsin)
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg
I would have loved for Bush to campaign deep in the heart of Kerry bases in cities such as Boston, Chicago, Seattle, and L.A. on the final leg of his campaign.

I believe he will be spending his last day of campaigning in Detroit and Youngstown.

Those far enough behind enemy lines fer ya...???

35 posted on 10/27/2004 6:53:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: maggiefluffs

Right -- you apologize if we received this message in error. Nice try maggiefluffs -- nice try.
Go W!!! George W. is the man!!


36 posted on 10/27/2004 6:53:47 PM PDT by bethtopaz (A California Hoosier for Bush -- all the way!! GO W!!!)
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To: OldFriend

They do have a Republican governor, and she is very popular!!


37 posted on 10/27/2004 6:55:02 PM PDT by bethtopaz (A California Hoosier for Bush -- all the way!! GO W!!!)
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To: Highwayman53

Apology accepted. ;-)


38 posted on 10/27/2004 6:56:10 PM PDT by BJClinton (We need a President who will stand up to the trial lawyers in Washington, not put one on the ticket.)
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To: KMC1

Kerry's numbers are headed for an historic crash. This final bit of campaign-coordinated news with the NY Times is the last Al Qa'Qaa out of Kerry's mouth that America will put up with. This is brazen anti-American propoganda and it has no place in Presidential politics.


39 posted on 10/27/2004 6:58:59 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("!Allahu Snackbar" - the war cry of the pajamadeen - Let's stop VOTE FRAUD NOW! Write your reps!)
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To: bethtopaz
Wonderful news. I read that the dems are suddenly sending campaign ads to Hawaii. Hopefull it's too late.

Notice too that the Bush campaign worked hard to register Amish people to vote........and they are totally supporting Dubya in both PA and Ohio.

40 posted on 10/27/2004 7:04:44 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: KMC1
The reasons why Kerry is doing badly in New Jersey is partly not his own doing but his party's. New Jersey has the most corrupt state government in the entire Union. The Democrats are in control of everything - and as could be expected - everything is a mess. Governor McGreevey named his gay lover to the position of "Homeland Security Advisor", the man wasn't even a U.S. Citizen, nor could he even get the clearance needed to attend Federal security briefings. And this is happening in the second most impacted state following 9/11. BUT weren't those "boys nights out" fun...

Boy if that doesn't make you think of Longshanks son and his "High Counsel, who was trained in all the arts of war and military tactics", who Longshanks threw out the window in Braveheart.

41 posted on 10/27/2004 7:04:48 PM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Ragnorak

Military presence in Hawaii -- big naval base there.


42 posted on 10/27/2004 7:04:57 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Highwayman53

Funny!

I have been like a yo-yo for a month. First I'm elated; then I'm down. I become very optomistic hearing about such things believed too impossible to be true such as winning New Jersey but then I have to listen to MSM talking about 'dead even.' I read about the elections at night, I read it on FR, I read it in the newspapers, and I am spending far too much time at work reading about it.

It shouldn't even BE this close. Dems just hate W and the attitude remains, 'anyone but Bush', especially in this state (WV).

Now I'm reading about the Dem teams of 10,000 lawyers ready to be dispatched to contest elections wherever needed throughout the country.

We have 'no excuse' early voting here on Saturday: Do I go, or do I fear my ballot will be tampered with?, and wait until Tuesday? Do terrorists 'hit' on Tuesday, thus preventing my voting?

I just want the next 6 days to pass QUICKLY!


43 posted on 10/27/2004 7:05:34 PM PDT by ZOTnot (first "LADY?" (Theresa) : 'Idiots', 'Shove it', 'Scumbags', 'Let them go naked'.)
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To: Ragnorak

Rush!
He mentioned yesterday he OWNS Hawaii


44 posted on 10/27/2004 7:05:39 PM PDT by Naplm
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To: ProudVet77

How graphic! What a mental image!

I'll watch for it!


45 posted on 10/27/2004 7:08:48 PM PDT by ZOTnot (first "LADY?" (Theresa) : 'Idiots', 'Shove it', 'Scumbags', 'Let them go naked'.)
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To: over3Owithabrain
I might run for president just to make frequent campaign appearances in Hawaii...

I second that emotion. Best idea I have heard in a long while.

46 posted on 10/27/2004 7:09:48 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: midftfan

I think New Jersey closes the polls at something like 8pm est. I say this because I always recall it being one of the first states to report. I may be wrong and it is 9pm, but hey let's hear it from someone who knows. If this news of Bush taking NJ comes in at 8pm, we will have a big LOL all night long. It has been difficult to take all this coverage parotting this same notion from the same angle. they just multiplyeach other without a dime's worth of differnece. FOX seems afraid to differ with the MSM anymore. They have really become pussycats.


47 posted on 10/27/2004 7:13:57 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: okie01

"Those far enough behind enemy lines fer ya...???"

Works for me...Dim cities both!


48 posted on 10/27/2004 7:15:05 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: princess leah
"And this will add to the pile of horse pucky that the major news networks know what they're doing by calling the election close!"

That would be a sweet side benefit if the president wins in a landslide that buries the media. I like it.

49 posted on 10/27/2004 7:15:25 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: thoughtomator
Kerry's numbers are headed for an historic crash. This final bit of campaign-coordinated news with the NY Times is the last Al Qa'Qaa out of Kerry's mouth that America will put up with. This is brazen anti-American propoganda and it has no place in Presidential politics.

I dont know about America, but it surely is the last thing I can take from that jackass. I simply could not put up with hearing himfor 4 years.

I sure hope America feels the same way.

50 posted on 10/27/2004 7:15:54 PM PDT by ontos-on
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