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DRUDGE: Russia tied to Iraq´s missing arms; Pentagon: Weaponry relocated before war
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Posted on 10/27/2004 7:11:06 PM PDT by The G Man

Nothing further. Freaking Russians ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: grassboots.org

Please have a news conference tomorrow releasing this, and then let's go to Syria and clean them out next....


51 posted on 10/27/2004 7:22:24 PM PDT by Sonar5 ("Global Test" - 2004 = "I'm an Internationalist" - 1970)
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To: tomahawk

This is THE BIGGEST STORY of the past year if it's true. A security council member who inexplicably opposed the invasion ... spiriting away Iraq's arsenal for them!!!!


52 posted on 10/27/2004 7:22:33 PM PDT by The G Man (Are Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein better off now then they were 4 years ago?)
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To: Petronski

Moguchaya Bolshoya!


53 posted on 10/27/2004 7:22:40 PM PDT by tomahawk
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To: TapTheSource

bump! Thanks for the ping.


54 posted on 10/27/2004 7:22:42 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: LikeLight

lol!~


55 posted on 10/27/2004 7:22:49 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: MistyCA

Did you see this?


56 posted on 10/27/2004 7:23:52 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: The G Man

This proves that John Kerry jumped the gun. He had a pre-mature ejaculation of the facts. Kerry is nothing more than a jerk-off shooting off his wad to get elected. He is the ultimate democrat whore who will say anything to get elected. He makes me sick.


57 posted on 10/27/2004 7:24:02 PM PDT by BattleBorn (Still Boycotting CBS, ABC and the New York Times.)
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To: stockpirate

Stock ... fire up the pajamajadeen. This is the big one.


58 posted on 10/27/2004 7:24:07 PM PDT by The G Man (Are Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein better off now then they were 4 years ago?)
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To: All

FR, you just don't freaking get it!!!
Rove, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft and Cheney traveled back in time using a Halliburton-built time machine. They dressed up as Russians and moved the explosives!!


59 posted on 10/27/2004 7:24:12 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (They should rename it to World Hugh instead of World Series!!!!)
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To: Zack Nguyen
We act like friendly countries, but at the street level, where it counts, Russia spies on us as aggressively as they did during the Cold War. They do not regard us as friends, I am afraid.

With few exceptions, nations don't really have "friends". Only "common interests". The most notable exception, probably, is the "special relationship" between the US and the UK.

Russia, in particular, has never considered another country its "friend". Nor will they ever. Their history has been disrupted by too many invasions to be otherwise.

But so long as we have "common interests", the Russians will cooperate.

60 posted on 10/27/2004 7:24:54 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: RoseofTexas

Plus: Putin needs Bush to look the other way while he fights his own WOT. The Russkies are tough. Ask Hitler.


61 posted on 10/27/2004 7:25:03 PM PDT by PrinceOfCups
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To: The G Man
I recall reading that the Russians help clean up the HQ of Saddams secret police - they moved the paperwork to Russia.
62 posted on 10/27/2004 7:25:04 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graft post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Kill Allawi and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: The G Man
He had a pre-mature ejaculation of the facts.

ROFLMAO

63 posted on 10/27/2004 7:25:06 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: BattleBorn

This will dominate the news until election day and beyond. (nice work, Mr Rove!)


64 posted on 10/27/2004 7:25:26 PM PDT by The G Man (Are Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein better off now then they were 4 years ago?)
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To: Prince Charles

Any comments from the NYT, CBS or the Kerry Camp about this bit of news yet??


65 posted on 10/27/2004 7:25:44 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: The G Man; The Sailor; grace522; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; ..

"GERTZ // THURSDAY // WASH TIMES: Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned. John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said in an interview that he believes the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, “almost certainly” removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa facility, south of Baghdad."


66 posted on 10/27/2004 7:26:02 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: CovenBuster; DesertDreamer

Ping!

And the plot thickens.


67 posted on 10/27/2004 7:26:26 PM PDT by MissyMa
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To: handy

"Kerry is going to look like the idiot he is."

If you substituted Putin for Kerry, the above sentence works just as well.


68 posted on 10/27/2004 7:26:44 PM PDT by TapTheSource
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To: BattleBorn

No, the idiots who pushed this story only knew half of it.

There was no reason for them to know, unless they talked to the right people, that the munitions were moved before the invasion. Also, that the munitions were moved by the Russians.

Kerry, CBS and the Times were gamed ... big-time.


69 posted on 10/27/2004 7:26:53 PM PDT by lavrenti (Think of who is pithy, yet so attractive to women.)
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To: handy

You nailed it!


70 posted on 10/27/2004 7:27:03 PM PDT by PrinceOfCups
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To: Zack Nguyen

Remember: PUTIN is KGB - always was, always will be!


71 posted on 10/27/2004 7:27:09 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: The G Man

How much you want to bet the labels on the bags was in Russian?


72 posted on 10/27/2004 7:27:25 PM PDT by eicko
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To: Mo1

Hehehe... if they do comment, it will be on Page D-23.


73 posted on 10/27/2004 7:27:37 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: handy

What does ROFLMAO mean?


74 posted on 10/27/2004 7:27:47 PM PDT by BattleBorn (Still Boycotting CBS, ABC and the New York Times.)
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To: lavrenti

"Kerry, CBS and the Times were gamed ... "

They got OWNED!!!


75 posted on 10/27/2004 7:27:52 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (They should rename it to World Hugh instead of World Series!!!!)
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To: arichtaxpayer
"Will the MSM report this?"
76 posted on 10/27/2004 7:28:24 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: BattleBorn

"What does ROFLMAO mean?"

Rolling On The Floor, Laughing My F-in Ass Off


77 posted on 10/27/2004 7:28:28 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (They should rename it to World Hugh instead of World Series!!!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

allicansayis..................W O O H O O !!!!!!


78 posted on 10/27/2004 7:28:32 PM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Bedlam,Massachusetts!!)
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To: The G Man

Would this have been classified information kerry knew about? Enabling him to make his charges knowing full well the President could not refute them until it was declassified?


79 posted on 10/27/2004 7:28:36 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Truth is not Partisan)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Makes sense. I remember hearing just before I went onver that there had been Russian "advisors" in Baghdad until two weeks before we came across the berm.


80 posted on 10/27/2004 7:28:42 PM PDT by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: The G Man

This was out a few hours ago


Russians ‘may have taken Iraq explosives’
By Demetri Sevastopulo and Guy Dinmore in Washington and James Harding in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania
Published: October 28 2004 00:45 | Last updated: October 28 2004 00:45

The controversy over Iraq’s missing explosives intensified on Wednesday as the Bush administration rejected charges of incompetence and a senior Pentagon official claimed the munitions may have been removed by Russians before the US-led invasion.


Breaking his silence over an issue that has dominated headlines since Monday, President George W. Bush accused John Kerry, his Democratic challenger, of making “wild charges” over the 350 tonnes of explosives and weapons.

The Pentagon is still investigating their disappearance. But Scott McClellan, White House press secretary, said there was a “very real possibility” the munitions were taken by the Saddam Hussein regime before US troops arrived at the munitions facility at al-Qaqaa, south of Baghdad.

At a rally in Iowa on Wednesday, however, Mr Kerry claimed that Mr Bush had allowed the explosives to fall into the hands of Iraqi rebels. Later, his campaign conceded that the Hussein regime might have removed the munitions before the invasion.

But in a further development, John Shaw, a deputy under-secretary of defence, suggested that “Russian units” had transported the explosives out of the country.

In an interview with the Financial Times, Mr Shaw said: “For nearly nine months my office has been aware of an elaborate scheme set up by Saddam Hussein to finance and disguise his weapons purchases through his international suppliers, principally the Russians and French. That network included. . . employing various Russian units on the eve of hostilities to orchestrate the collection of munitions and assure their transport out of Iraq via Syria.”

The Russian embassy in Washington rejected the claims as “nonsense”, saying there were no Russian military in the country at the time.

Mr Shaw, who heads the Pentagon’s international armament and technology trade directorate, has not provided evidence for his claims and the Pentagon distanced itself from his remarks.

“I am unaware of any particular information on that point,” said Larry Di Rita, Pentagon spokesman. The issue has dominated the presidential campaign since the International Atomic Energy Agency raised it at the UN Security Council on Monday. The Iraqi government says the explosives disappeared during looting after US forces seized Baghdad. But Colonel Dave Perkins, who commanded the first troops into al-Qaqaa, yesterday said it was “highly improbable” someone could have removed the munitions after US forces had taken control of the area.

The US has in the past raised concerns about Russian activities in Iraq before the invasion. During the war, Mr Bush called Vladimir Putin, Russian president, to voice concerns that Russian companies at least one state-owned had provided Iraq with anti-tank guided missiles, satellite jamming devices and night-vision goggles. Russia denied the charges and promised an investigation.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/a4bc50c6-2870-11d9-9308-00000e2511c8.html


81 posted on 10/27/2004 7:28:57 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: handy

OMG.

Holy S@#T!!!

...if this is true- it is breathtaking. The implications are mind-boggling...


82 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:03 PM PDT by SE Mom (Republican for Red Sox!)
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To: TapTheSource

I am sure there is a plausible excuse for helping Saddam, now everybody will get along just fine if we give Putin their oil contracts back.... (sarcasm)


83 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: jimbo123
NY Times: Iraqis Tell of Looting at Munitions Site

Times couldn't find any Americans to interview I guess, only former Baathists officials available. Anyone seen Bagdad Bob?
84 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:16 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: MissyMa

Whoa!!!


85 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:17 PM PDT by DesertDreamer ("We have a calling from beyond the stars to stand for freedom."~~President George W. Bush, 9/2/2004)
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To: international american

The truth has it's way of bubbling up to the surface at the most opportune times.


THIS IS HUGH, FOLKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


86 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:31 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (They should rename it to World Hugh instead of World Series!!!!)
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To: The G Man

It now kinda makes sense why the Feds might have been worried about getting satellite photos declassified.


87 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:32 PM PDT by stylin19a (It's called GOLF because all the other 4 letter words were taken)
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To: BattleBorn
What does ROFLMAO mean?

Roll On the Floor Laughing My Ass Off

88 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:45 PM PDT by The G Man (Are Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein better off now then they were 4 years ago?)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

LOL


89 posted on 10/27/2004 7:29:53 PM PDT by MJY1288 (A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK HAS NEVER LED ANY TEAM TO VICTORY)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Thanks for the belly laugh! Great post.


90 posted on 10/27/2004 7:30:06 PM PDT by NordP (Stem Cell Research? Taxes? Oil $ ? --None of them will matter, if I'm dead ...or in a burka!)
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To: The G Man
I've never thought Russia was our friend. Just a quieter, more backstabbing kind of enemy post-Cold-War as opposed to the overt nature of the enmity before.

MM

91 posted on 10/27/2004 7:30:06 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

This is series hugh. I need a shower.


92 posted on 10/27/2004 7:30:37 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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To: txradioguy

True, And I remember that a convoy was attacked by our jets killing numerous Russians near the Syrian border.


93 posted on 10/27/2004 7:30:39 PM PDT by Whataday
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To: MJY1288

What were you laughing at? The Halliburton time machine? :)


94 posted on 10/27/2004 7:30:44 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (They should rename it to World Hugh instead of World Series!!!!)
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To: The G Man

Putin needs to get his head straight. (Have friends will volunteer to do this ;)


95 posted on 10/27/2004 7:30:54 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: MJY1288

Full article from Washington Times here:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20041027-101153-4822r.htm

Unfreakingbelievable!


96 posted on 10/27/2004 7:30:59 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: The G Man

I'm surprised some of the foreign leaders that JFK consults with didn't let him in on this little tidbit...


97 posted on 10/27/2004 7:31:01 PM PDT by umgud (Donate monthly, don't be a Freeploader)
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To: The G Man

"Emergency! Everyone to get from street!"

I loved that line. I still use it.


98 posted on 10/27/2004 7:31:17 PM PDT by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: The G Man

Greta just now reporting on this.

Arafart dying...WMDs found...pinch me I'm dreaming! Hot damn!


99 posted on 10/27/2004 7:31:18 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (What does John Kerry hunt with? Spitballs???)
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To: The G Man

Greta is talking about this now. Bill Gertz will be on her show to talk about it tomorrow.


100 posted on 10/27/2004 7:31:21 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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