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Russia Denies Involvement in Iraq Weapons
AP ^ | 10/28/04 | VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV

Posted on 10/28/2004 8:13:01 AM PDT by tomahawk

Russia Denies Involvement in Iraq Weapons

1 hour, 46 minutes ago

By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV, Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW - Russia angrily denied allegations Thursday that Russian forces had smuggled a cache of high explosives out of Iraq (news - web sites) prior to the U.S. invasion in March 2003.

Defense Ministry spokesman Vyacheslav Sedov dismissed the allegations as "absurd" and "ridiculous."

"I can state officially that the Russian Defense Ministry and its structures couldn't have been involved in the disappearance of the explosives, because all Russian military experts left Iraq when the international sanctions were introduced during the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites)," he told The Associated Press.

The denial followed a story in The Washington Times on Thursday that quoted a high-ranking U.S. defense official alleging that Russian special forces had "almost certainly" helped spirit out the hundreds of tons of high explosives that went missing from the al-Qaqaa base. The newspaper based its report on an interview with John Shaw, the deputy U.S. undersecretary of defense for international technology security.

Two weeks ago, Iraqi officials told the U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency that 377 tons of explosives had vanished as a result of "theft and looting ... due to lack of security." The compounds, HMX and RDX, are key components in plastic explosives, which insurgents in Iraq have used in bomb attacks.

Russia' charge d'affaires in Iraq, Ilya Morgunov, also denied the report.

"I didn't hear about any weapons to be taken out," Interfax quoted him as saying. "Moreover, there was nobody to take them out, because we actually evacuated all of our personnel."

He said there had been no Russian special forces in Iraq, only civilian specialists working for foreign firms.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: ammogate; denial; explosives; kerrylies; qaqaagate; russia
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To: tomahawk
Guys come on! Did any of you seriously, and I mean seriously think Russia was going to admit they they helped Iraq with these missing weapons considering the Oil-for-Food scandal?!?!?

This is Russia we're talking about -- remember that.
21 posted on 10/28/2004 8:31:51 AM PDT by MichelleWSC
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To: tomahawk
because all Russian military experts left Iraq when the international sanctions were introduced during the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites)," he told The Associated Press.

Then who was in that caravan leaving Iraq that we accidentally hit when the war started??

22 posted on 10/28/2004 8:32:45 AM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: stocksthatgoup

that was a diplomatic convoy - not the trucks moving this stuff. remember, we thought at the time Saddam might be in that convoy of cars.


23 posted on 10/28/2004 8:35:27 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: tomahawk
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Condi Rice was on Laura Ingraham's radio show this morning and when asked about this subject she said she hasn't seen any evidence of Russian involvement.

Either this false story or Condi is ill informed.
24 posted on 10/28/2004 8:36:46 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: tomahawk
"I can state officially that the Russian Defense Ministry and its structures couldn't have been involved in the disappearance of the explosives, because all Russian military experts left Iraq when the international sanctions were introduced during the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites)," he told The Associated Press.

All Russian military experts....but that did not take into account the Russian soldiers who were left to clean up and shred papers..........

25 posted on 10/28/2004 8:37:29 AM PDT by yoe
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To: SmithL

Yeah, especially since most of the boys(russians) are for sale or rent.


26 posted on 10/28/2004 8:38:02 AM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: tomahawk
Russia will never take responsibility. Too many negative implications would result from a confession. My guess would be that Putin could possibly face some domestic problems with Russian voters, especially after the school shootings. The last thing he needs is publicity that he was supplying a dangerous regime with dangerous weapons. I am hopeful, however, that the Pentagon will release the satellite images of the trucks at the munitions facility. The story is quickly collapsing in on the Kerry campaign and NYT/CBS even without the satellite images. If the images are released, however, the MSM would have to display them in their coverage.

My suspicion is that if the images were to be released, today would be the day. The unraveling of the munitions story coupled with the authenticated terror threat warning immediately preceding the final weekend of news coverage could prove devastating for the Kerry campaign.

SURPRISE!!!
27 posted on 10/28/2004 8:38:07 AM PDT by infohawk
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To: tomahawk

What did we expect them to say?

Russia, "Sure, we help old Saddam stash his weapons out of harms way and we hid his WMD's too."


28 posted on 10/28/2004 8:38:14 AM PDT by ol painless (ol' painless is out of the bag)
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To: McGruff
Either this false story or Condi is ill informed.

Karl Rove was on as well, and he didn't mention the story.

Just another dead end, I'm afraid.

29 posted on 10/28/2004 8:38:50 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: McGruff

there is a difference between what actually happened, and the geo-political implications of admitting something like this. we are never going to get the Russians to admit to this, and the administration is never going to "out" the Russians. that doesn't mean the Russians didn't do it, it just means that no one is going to corroborate it.

this was the likely scenario to happen when Gertz broke this story - that's why no one is touching this Russian story on the domestic political front.


30 posted on 10/28/2004 8:40:29 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: tomahawk
========= RUSSIAN MISSILES FOUND IN IRAQ =========

Russian-made R-60, NATO AA-8 Aphid, air-to-air missiles were found..
The Russian-made missiles are >6 feet long. Each carries 3.5 pounds of uranium.
wrapped around a high explosive warhead (13.2-pound) making a possible "dirty bomb".


31 posted on 10/28/2004 8:41:57 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: skip_intro

Condi is Russia lover. Remember, they can do no wrong. Did the russians not complain when we bombed thier diplomat convoy.


32 posted on 10/28/2004 8:42:07 AM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: skip_intro

true.

But that doesn't mean the WH can't simply say that the material wasn't there when US forces secured the facility. There is plenty of evidence for that. We don't need this Russian angle, we can do a better job refuting this attack by simplying saying the stuff was gone when we arrived.


33 posted on 10/28/2004 8:42:36 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: focusandclarity; All

Somebody knows who and what was invloved in Iraq prior to the U.S liberation. The Intel was right on. Powel said we had wrong information and intel. No way! The intel was correct...there was WMD in Iraq, but who the hell is going to say "so & so" is involved and "so and so" moved them.

This bit of info is to let the Russians know that "WE KNOW" they were in on it and that the US intel is right on the money once again. Tenent was the "scapegoat" because the CIA was correct on what was on the ground in Iraq.


34 posted on 10/28/2004 8:43:37 AM PDT by ruready4eternity (P.C. war is over! Let the carpet bombing campaign begin!)
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To: skip_intro

Condi is a Russia expert. She won't comment before the official investigation. The Gertz article offsets the NYT article.


35 posted on 10/28/2004 8:44:31 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (I'm not so sure it's credible to quote leading news organizations about --oh,nevermind.-GWB)
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To: tomahawk

Is Pootie Poot going to comment on this himself?


36 posted on 10/28/2004 8:46:12 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: ruready4eternity

Exactly. When GWB says that what was accomplished in his administration will be written by historians in 50 years, he isn't kidding.


37 posted on 10/28/2004 8:47:06 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (I'm not so sure it's credible to quote leading news organizations about --oh,nevermind.-GWB)
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To: oceanview
But that doesn't mean the WH can't simply say that the material wasn't there when US forces secured the facility

I agree with you, but the WH isn't saying that. They're not saying anything except "we don't know".

I keep hoping for something stronger.

38 posted on 10/28/2004 8:48:10 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: DaveMSmith
The Gertz article offsets the NYT article

I don't know about that. A lot of the Joe Six Packs out there do not even know there is a Washington Times and do not listen to Conservative radio.

What they will here is the MSM spin on the Times piece such as what I just read in the AP story.

I think that NBC and now ABC bringing up there points along with the Pentagon's claim of it being almost impossible to get a convoy of trucks out of the site undetected and of course BC04 speaking about it will help defang the story the most.

39 posted on 10/28/2004 8:49:21 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: tomahawk

What about the satelite photos.

Do you think the Pentagon will release them?

Have you all noticed that Kerry's mouthpieces are spinning the rush into war syndrome issue and attaching it to the weapons disappearance?

40 posted on 10/28/2004 8:51:08 AM PDT by crushelits
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