Posted on 10/28/2004 12:05:16 PM PDT by NYer
Arlington cemetary is open to burial seervices of all religions.
Legal does not automatically equal correct decision.
Sure. However, a free society tolerates all religions equally.
Gimme the good ole days when we could recognize good from evil.
The only thing that has changed from the good old days is that you can no longer persecute someone for their religious beliefs.
The lyrics of many of their "songs".....er...."numbers" are nothing more than hymns to Satan. Read them. There's nothing subtle or cryptic about them.
One can have a long and interesting discussion about the gradual evolution of modern music over the last 50 years or so to progressively more explicit and overtly evil forms and perhaps raise the question as to whether the roots of this tree are not themselves rotten, springing up as they did from seeds of rebellion, self-indulgence, self-gratification and fornication. However, one thing is for sure. The culture associated with much of heavy-metal, death-metal, gothic and other "music", greatly facilitates the entry into a world of occultism, spirits and demons.
Implicit in that statement is the idea there is nothing harmful in any of them. Either that, or you are suggesting that society has a duty to tolerate things which could harm it.
A "free society" is one which has the freedom to set its own standards and laws in accord with what it sees to be its own best interests.
A society which is obliged to accept any and all philosophies is not truly free. It is under the tyranny of a rigid yoke with no freedom to discriminate good from evil.
Looks like he's gone to the dark side of the crust.
Obviously, you aren't a person of tolerance and diversity. :D
I know how you feel.
Heaven forbid someone would judge the Satanisits. ><
You reminded me of an old saying.
"Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free."
To our detriment.
The idea that a society can be harmed is communitarian nonsense. Societies do not have rights- only individuals. We have laws in place that punish those that harm the rights of others. So long as a person's religious practices do not harm the rights of another, the state has no power to in any way interfere with those practices.
A "free society" is one which has the freedom to set its own standards and laws in accord with what it sees to be its own best interests.
You are describing a pure democracy, where 51% of the polity can vote to have the other 49% killed. In our society, the 51% cannot outlaw the religious practices of the other 49%.
A society which is obliged to accept any and all philosophies is not truly free.
You make the same mistake that a lot of gay activists make: you are confusing "tolerate" with "accept."
You are in no way required to accept Satanism, Islam or any other religion you may not like. You are free to preach against them, encourage its practioners to convert and generally spend your entire life working against the aims of such a religion if that's what floats your boat.
You are required, however, to refrain from taking any actions that would harm the rights of Satanists to peacefully practice their religion. The right to peacefully practice one's religion is an inalienable right of all humans.
To our detriment.
Be careful what you wish for. Implicit in your statement is the notion that the government should have the power to ban or regulate "bad" religions.
Give the government the power to outlaw or suppress certain religions and you will someday find that your religion ends up on the blacklist.
"Happy Holidays!"
Even if that was true, the solution is more, not less, religious freedom in America.
But hey, let's not offend any Satanists--they are just as good as any of us, right? Who are we to judge right and wrong? After all, all religions are inherently equal....
What branch of the ACLU do you belong to?
Indeed, Modernman would argue we should tolerate Old Aztec religion. I won't tolerate it, and I won't tolerate worship of the Evil One. When the Founding Fathers put into place religious freedom is was with respect to freedom from state churches such as the Church of England or the RCC in certain countries at that time (e.g. the Holy Roman Empire). It was not license for all warped and twisted things to be passed off as "religion." Call me bigotted, narrow minded, intolerant and what have you. Limits must be set, and culture protected. Borders, Language, Culture. God Bless America.
Feel free to offend whomever you want. Like I said, you do not have to accept satanists, you are just required to tolerate them.
Who are we to judge right and wrong? After all, all religions are inherently equal....
Nobody is stopping you from judging right and wrong. You're just not allowed to beat up a Satanist.
What branch of the ACLU do you belong to?
The irony of your statement is that the ACLU has been responsible for harming Americans' right to peacefully practice their religions. Perhpas you would be at home at the ACLU?
You are free to worship the old Aztec gods, if that's your thing. However, you are not free to practice human sacrifice, no matter what your religion says.
I won't tolerate it, and I won't tolerate worship of the Evil One
Too bad. Attack a satanist, or burn his house down and you'll find yourself in jail and you'll find that he owns your house after the civil suit.
When the Founding Fathers put into place religious freedom is was with respect to freedom from state churches such as the Church of England or the RCC in certain countries at that time (e.g. the Holy Roman Empire).
That's only one half of what the Founding Fathers did. The other half was to ensure that the government cannot prevent you from peacefully practicing whatever religion you choose.
It was not license for all warped and twisted things to be passed off as "religion."
So, who determines what is a "proper" religion, the government?
Limits must be set, and culture protected.
My point exactly. People must be limited from harming the rights of others and the American culture of freedom of worship must be protected.
Jah Vol, Herr Kommandant!
"You're just not allowed to beat up a Satanist."
Satanic ritual sacrifice, however, must be tolerated.
"The irony of your statement is that the ACLU has been responsible for harming Americans' right to peacefully practice their religions. Perhpas you would be at home at the ACLU?",
As a Christian I am automatically disqualified for ACLU membership. Didn't you get the memo?
Nonsense. Human sacrifice falls under murder statutes. Religious freedom does not allow a person to violate the rights of others.
As a Christian I am automatically disqualified for ACLU membership. Didn't you get the memo?
Perhaps. But your support of limiting the religious freedoms of Americans makes you a fellow-traveller of the ACLU.
Your argument has the air of extreme legalism, Modernman. Others, who care about the state of our culture, will reject strict legalistic thinking in favor of such backward concepts of right and wrong and common sense.
Do you pray?
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