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Ventura: Bush falls short on separation of church, state
MPLS Star & Sickle ^ | 10-28-04 | AP

Posted on 10/28/2004 3:31:22 PM PDT by Rakkasan1

Former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura is silent no more on why he's supporting John Kerry for president.

Unleashing a strong attack against President Bush, Ventura appeared at Century Technical College in Oakdale Thursday to encourage young people to vote. He signed Kerry-Edwards posters but wouldn't answer questions from reporters.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 2004election; bush; college; election2004; glassjawventura; idiot; jesseventura; kerryfor; minnesota; mn; ventura
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governor turnbuckle espouses more wisdom and AP/Sickle dutifully listen.

"There's not a former Democrat or Republican governor in the country who would dare to look like this,'' said Ventura, an independent.

no monkey would dare for that matter.

1 posted on 10/28/2004 3:31:22 PM PDT by Rakkasan1
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To: Rakkasan1

Another atheist heard from.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 3:32:28 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: Rakkasan1

Jessie 'The Buffoon' Ventura ... who cares what he thinks.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 3:32:32 PM PDT by GaltMeister (I'm just a Pajamahadeen cog in the wheels of the VRWC.)
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To: Rakkasan1

What a disappointment Jesse has turned out to be.


4 posted on 10/28/2004 3:32:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Ventura = ClueLess


5 posted on 10/28/2004 3:34:12 PM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: Lunkhead_01
Too bad Ventura didn't have problems with his own violation of the "separation of morons and political office."
6 posted on 10/28/2004 3:34:18 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Rakkasan1

How this mental midget got elected is beyond me. I wonder if any polls have been conducted of late that show that the people of MIN-A-SOOODA would vote for this clown again.


7 posted on 10/28/2004 3:34:20 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: Rakkasan1

Jesse: I was sad when you got killed in the movie with Arnold. Now I will watch it and cheer!


8 posted on 10/28/2004 3:34:21 PM PDT by rocksblues (Sorry John, we remember and will never forget your treason!)
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To: Rakkasan1

ventura fall short on combination of brains/mouth.


9 posted on 10/28/2004 3:34:31 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Rakkasan1

Hey Jesse! Go wrap your pecker in a boa.


10 posted on 10/28/2004 3:34:57 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Rakkasan1

Oh dear....


11 posted on 10/28/2004 3:35:09 PM PDT by highlandbreeze
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To: Rakkasan1

I think Jesse is getting a bit jealous that Arnie is getting all the attention nowadays, and Jesse is a barely-recalled footnote.


12 posted on 10/28/2004 3:35:14 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Rakkasan1

Venturas a bigot. No biggie, there's loads of them on the Planet Lovetron.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 3:35:21 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Breaking News: Al Qaqaa HE blows up Kerry Campaign!)
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To: Rakkasan1

I saw him on TV the other day. He looks weird.


14 posted on 10/28/2004 3:35:42 PM PDT by ILS21R (Vote)
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To: Rakkasan1

Oh yeah, I can see the theocracy forming now. Paranoid idiot.


15 posted on 10/28/2004 3:36:24 PM PDT by evolved_rage ('Rats are elitists, elitist wannabees, or nanny-state suckups....all are parasites.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Ventura started out with great fanfare then blew it and was a lousy governor. He began to believe his own press clippings and became a media whore like John McCain.
Ventura only wishes he had had the success of his old buddy Arnold and now is bitter.
So what does he do, he comes out for John Kerry and this from an old Navy Seal who could not possibly in reality have any respect for Kerry.
He has become a true hypocrite.


16 posted on 10/28/2004 3:37:00 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Rakkasan1
Bush falls short on separation of church, state

Kerry falls short on separation of individual and state.

17 posted on 10/28/2004 3:37:11 PM PDT by Dolphy (It's not a plan, it's an echo)
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To: Rakkasan1

There's only one candidate I see campaigning in churches this cycle, and it ain't Bush.


18 posted on 10/28/2004 3:38:56 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: NormsRevenge

What do you mean turned out to be?


19 posted on 10/28/2004 3:41:21 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Rastus

CHURCH AND STATE?

Who is the one that keeps talking about being guided by their faith if elected into the W House?

Who is the one that keeps holding political rallies in churches?

Kerry maybe?


20 posted on 10/28/2004 3:42:42 PM PDT by blakep
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To: stockpirate

LOL.. Good point, altho he did outact aRnie and Carl Weathers in Predator.. He died real good. ;-)


21 posted on 10/28/2004 3:42:48 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Rakkasan1
Typical of anti-christian atheist.

Like most leftist morons think that "there shall be a separation of church and state" is in the Constitution.

There shall be no law respecting the establishment of a religion.That is the Constitutional test.Try explaining that to anti-christian bigots that dream of being reincarnated as a 38 DD bra.
22 posted on 10/28/2004 3:42:59 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Rakkasan1
Didn't he say that belief in God was a crutch for the weak minded...or something to that effect?

He's a scumbag through and through. Not to mention a laughing stock as a governor.

23 posted on 10/28/2004 3:52:15 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Rakkasan1

So basically Jesse's support is based on religious bigotry...


24 posted on 10/28/2004 3:53:24 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Rakkasan1

Keep talking Jesse; your incompetency as governor led to a Republican governor, now your idiotcy as a private citizen is gonna help bring W the state of Minnesota.

I'm real glad that The Body and Der Shlick are out there campaigning for Kerry. Reminds people of how good they have it now.


25 posted on 10/28/2004 3:54:48 PM PDT by MarquetteCR1 (Think Right)
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To: Rakkasan1

We should have been emphasizing all along the people that are atheist that are against President Bush. A lot of people don't know that some (a lot)of these people are atheists.


26 posted on 10/28/2004 3:54:50 PM PDT by texasredneck
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To: Captain Peter Blood

"this from an old Navy Seal who could not possibly in reality have any respect for Kerry."

Maybe someone should pull Ventura's service record and have a look. Never know what one might see. Certainly makes me wonder.


27 posted on 10/28/2004 3:56:53 PM PDT by HurricaneD
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To: Rakkasan1
Isn't he that homeless looking guy yakking for the California Indians?
28 posted on 10/28/2004 3:58:35 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Rakkasan1

I am trying to remember the hateful comment he had for Christians in an interview while governor... maybe in Playboy magazine.


29 posted on 10/28/2004 3:59:13 PM PDT by KidGlock (I already voted for Bush/Cheney 2004. Did you?)
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To: Rakkasan1
Bush falls short on separation of church, state

An Jesse falls way short on know whats in the constitution!

THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!

30 posted on 10/28/2004 3:59:33 PM PDT by Bommer ( Bush met the First Lady at a BBQ? That's Love brotha!" - stainlessbanner)
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To: Rakkasan1

Anyone know what Bobby "The Brain" Heenan thinks about all this?


31 posted on 10/28/2004 4:01:15 PM PDT by daler
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To: Rakkasan1

yeah, this is from the guy who said, "that people who believe in God are weak".


32 posted on 10/28/2004 4:02:18 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless President GWB and our Brave Troops)
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To: NormsRevenge

Right, he was an actor that fooled the voters in MN I think.


33 posted on 10/28/2004 4:03:19 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

No, this from the BROTHER of a Navy seal.... Jesse was never anything but a full-blown Democrat hiding his true colors, at least in the beginning. Little by little his mask kept slipping and his true worthless Democrat self began to show until it was obvious to even the worst of the fools he deceived.


34 posted on 10/28/2004 4:07:27 PM PDT by penowa
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To: Rakkasan1

Oh no! Does this mean president Bush may not poll well among Satan worshiping skinheads?


35 posted on 10/28/2004 4:18:41 PM PDT by labette
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If Jessie is afraid of Christianity than I say, Booo! I think he’s got the wrong fundamentalists’. I thank God that this country was founded on Christian values and I suggest that he look at the current counties void of the choices these values allow. That being said:
``Personal spiritual beliefs are fine,'' said Ventura, who wore a Navy Seals T-shirt, blue jeans and tennis shoes. ``But this is your job. You have to be able to separate the two. I believe John Kerry understands this distinction. President Bush does not.''
Our President obviously allows and listens to dissenting discourse but he also makes decisions based on his core belief which is why you know were he stands whether you agree or not – this is a sign of character and not a flaw.
Ventura also explained that he's sporting his new look - long hair and a braided beard - to show freedom of choice and freedom of speech.

``I believe in personal freedom, freedom of choice and freedom of expression. I chose to look like this after I left office. There's not a former Democrat or Republican governor in the country who would dare to look like this,'' Ventura said.

Preach on Jessie… Is everything just for show and without substance?... I see why Kerry is your man.
36 posted on 10/28/2004 4:22:37 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: HurricaneD

Jesse was NEVER assigned to a Seal team-
He made it through BUDS training and was assigned to
to a group that never left the phillipines.

He made it -because his brother told him how to prepare
for BUDS school - kudos on being smart enough to ask.

Jesse hates any Christian- for one reason -his big mouth-
spouting out how he screwed whores in Nevada- Everyone
I know was shocked here in Minn.- and told him so...

Jesse has been pissed ever since- Jesse hates his wife-
kids and his life- a bitter man who cannot/willnot
admit any of his glaring faults-Whoring,cursing Christians -hating religion and anyone who goes to church.

Yes,he has called them weak minded-needing a crutch.

He Won in Minn -Just as Clintoooon- won the first time-
with a split vote and only 37%!! suckered a lot of
people with his awshucks I am an honest Abe routine.

The press locally killed him- nationally he was the
greatest politician ever!- conservatives finally brought
him down (he was O.K. with most liberals- had a chief of
staff queer- arrested for soliciting,yep an undercover cop)

But in Jesse's fantasy world -He really believes he will
answer to know one least of all a "Christian God"

Guess what -I thought this dufus was already living in
California- you guys can have him!!

Just my 2 cents
Could rant forever on this loser- will end by saying...

Research your candidate- if Minnesotans would have-
this guy would have been long gone.


37 posted on 10/28/2004 4:25:54 PM PDT by mj1234
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To: Rakkasan1
Ventura: Bush falls short on separation of church, state MPLS Star & Sickle ^ | 10-28-04 | AP

Well good for him. That was never in the minds of our founding fathers Mr. Ventura.

38 posted on 10/28/2004 4:26:08 PM PDT by ladyinred (John Kerry has a plan to change the national symbol of an Eagle to a Chicken)
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To: Rakkasan1
arrogance and ignorance both in one package... how convenient
39 posted on 10/28/2004 4:30:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: Lunkhead_01

His brother is a regular caller to religious stations in the Twin Cities. He's obsessed with telling the world that everyone who believes is a moron.


40 posted on 10/28/2004 4:30:53 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Rakkasan1

Ventura: Does anyone remember me? Come on - I was hot once. Everyone fawned all over me. Anyone? Hello????


41 posted on 10/28/2004 4:31:39 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Kerry is a Nuanced Nuisance!)
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To: Rakkasan1; narses; B4Ranch

We clearly have a problem with the ACLU driving our legal agenda against our culture. How to defend ourselves against it? I'm one of those "separationists" who can see that the second amendment is currently in a lot more danger than the first amendment. Americans are working out what they think about the notion of separation. Personally, I think paying for Islamic faith-based ministries is an example of how wrong you can go when you stray into the realm of mixing state and religion. But President Bush has (either intentionally or by default) defended my right to keep and bear arms. Campaign finance reform is a much bigger threat to our first amendment rights than President Bush's positions on state and religion, at least in my view.


42 posted on 10/28/2004 4:32:25 PM PDT by risk
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To: radicalamericannationalist
Too bad Ventura didn't have problems with his own violation of the "separation of morons and political office."

Damn, you beat me to it. Good one.

43 posted on 10/28/2004 4:33:06 PM PDT by michaelt
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To: Rakkasan1

Wish Gorilla Monsoon was still alive, he'd pound some sense into him.


44 posted on 10/28/2004 4:33:55 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: demlosers
Hey Jesse! Go wrap your pecker in a boa.

He thinks his pecker is a boa.

45 posted on 10/28/2004 4:35:35 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Fledermaus

Fledermaus: Ventura falls short of separation of Head and A$$.


46 posted on 10/28/2004 4:35:38 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Kerry is a Nuanced Nuisance!)
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To: Nowhere Man

I wonder what Mean Gene thinks of Jesse now.


47 posted on 10/28/2004 4:40:50 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece:Charity is conservative;doing it with someone else's money is liberal.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Ventura falls short on brains. Was he does have he uses to corrupt the young. That's, because he knows the adults all know he's full of it.


48 posted on 10/28/2004 4:54:07 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Rakkasan1

The Christian-bashing, failed one-term governor can now shut up and sit down.


49 posted on 10/28/2004 5:04:31 PM PDT by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: michaelt
I have my moments.
50 posted on 10/28/2004 5:35:55 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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