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MSNBC Showing Video OF Alleged Explosives At Ka KA on April 18, 2003
10/28/2004

Posted on 10/28/2004 5:05:36 PM PDT by notkerry

MSNBC Showing Video OF Alleged Explosives At Ka KA on April 18, 2003


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KEYWORDS: ammogate; iraq
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1 posted on 10/28/2004 5:05:36 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: notkerry

Claims video from an reporter at site on that day. Shows drums of explosives.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 5:06:37 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: notkerry

I missed it.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 5:07:19 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: notkerry

It on right now. 8:10 pm est


4 posted on 10/28/2004 5:07:38 PM PDT by notkerry
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To: notkerry

Same stuff shown on ABC earlier...coordinated attack on GW last minute.

The October surprise after all. Too late to beat this now...


5 posted on 10/28/2004 5:08:02 PM PDT by dinok
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To: dinok

And their point is????
Any attack right now is a direct attack on our military--not Bush.
Don't fall for this trash.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 5:09:07 PM PDT by Galtoid
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To: notkerry

So, Saddam had WMDs then, right?

...Can't have it both ways, MSNBC.


7 posted on 10/28/2004 5:10:38 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (You're it)
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To: notkerry

I thought that there were many kinds of weaponry on the CACA grounds. Do they know that what they are showing are the items in question?


8 posted on 10/28/2004 5:10:50 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: notkerry


9 posted on 10/28/2004 5:10:51 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: notkerry

Rove and the Republican leadership need to come out with a little presentation that puts this to rest once and for all. There is plenty of time, especially with the numbers that will will watch nightly news on Friday and Monday due to the election being so close.


10 posted on 10/28/2004 5:10:54 PM PDT by xuberalles
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To: notkerry

That tape of a small amount of explosives killed our pushback. The MSM treats this tape as some kind of proof that the Times was right.

I wish we could have just let this thing die. By keeping it alive the last three days we set ourselves up for this drubbing today. What a horrible news week of old stories being re-hashed.


12 posted on 10/28/2004 5:11:08 PM PDT by Gustafm1000
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To: dinok

Showing what explosives? The tonnage that the NYT said was there and isn't now, that never existed or a few barrels labled "explosives"? It doesn't mean it's the same stuff.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 5:11:13 PM PDT by RecallMoran (The left would RATHER lie)
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To: notkerry

I saw the video.. don't believe it identified where or when it was taken. "Independent Experts" confirmed it appeared to be RDX and HMX.


14 posted on 10/28/2004 5:11:19 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: notkerry

380,000 tons of explosives in drums, my that must be quite a picture


15 posted on 10/28/2004 5:12:36 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: notkerry
So, you are a soldier. You are a part of the initial push towards Baghdad. You know that this is all about WMD. If you came upon a weapon's storage site, what would you do?

I'll tell you what a WOULDN'T do. I wouldn't walk in with no weapon, no helmet, no chem gear and then open boxes and touch the things inside.

16 posted on 10/28/2004 5:12:40 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Galtoid
What I think is immaterial...I made up my mind long ago to oppose all democrats to the end. What the idiots who are sitting on the fence do is another thing.

Check this post for the pics and the post of the article by the ABC affiliate that shot the tape.

17 posted on 10/28/2004 5:12:48 PM PDT by dinok
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To: dinok
If, IF, the allegations are / were true, then reporters weren't the only ones to see these explosives..

Literally, THOUSANDS of U.S. servicemen had to have seen them as well..
I haven't heard much, or ANY verification from them as of yet..

18 posted on 10/28/2004 5:13:05 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: dawn53
Here is the story that goes with the photos in post 9. Notice they say "may" be.

Yet more speculation for John Kerry to jump on.

19 posted on 10/28/2004 5:13:49 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: dinok
Actually, 'tis too late. By now, I suspect that 97% of the voting populace has made up its mind.

Second, we do not know that elements of the 101 didn't actually pick this stuff up. Recall that the original story said 350 tons? Later, we learned from the Iraqis that it was a lot less than that (3 tons is what I heard).

I believe that a lot of this stuff is being filtered out by people now. They know its the last week, and that the media has an agenda.

Chill.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

20 posted on 10/28/2004 5:14:20 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: El Paul

Why don't you admit to being a DU troll and go back home?


21 posted on 10/28/2004 5:14:33 PM PDT by shezza (Watch "Stolen Honor" -- and then wonder how even one American could ever vote for JF'nK)
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To: El Paul
Maybe nobody will notice.

I wouldn't bank on that.

A_R

22 posted on 10/28/2004 5:14:46 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Gustafm1000

You ckicked FreeRepublic.com by mistake, redirect to DU freakshow.


24 posted on 10/28/2004 5:14:56 PM PDT by Pointblank
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To: El Paul
Maybe nobody will notice.

And maybe nobody will notice that you signed up just in time to defend the CBS' forged national guard docs.

Back to troll school you go...

25 posted on 10/28/2004 5:15:05 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (ABC is an enemy of the United States)
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To: anyone

How come this reporter is the only person in all the huge group of soldiers and other fellow reporters who has this footage. It also took him 4 days to come up with it. Does he have anyone to verify what this footage is?

However, I'm not surprised someone came up with some video.


26 posted on 10/28/2004 5:15:08 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: RecallMoran
"The tonnage that the NYT said was there and isn't now, that never existed or a few barrels labeled "explosives"? It doesn't mean it's the same stuff."

There is a difference between reality and what idiots who grew up watching MASH will believe.
27 posted on 10/28/2004 5:15:21 PM PDT by dinok
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To: operation clinton cleanup

It could just as well be gun powder. That and about 49 other things can classify as 1.1D exposives. Did they cut a UN seal to get into the building?


28 posted on 10/28/2004 5:15:21 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Bush let them steal the WMD's that never existed??????)
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To: El Paul
the admin is going to have to admit to leaving the stuff unguarded -- Cheney is going to have to admit that it was really still there,

Sir, you are an idiot!

29 posted on 10/28/2004 5:15:37 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: El Paul
The video is quite compelling

Ring Ring. It's reality calling. They want to talk to you.

30 posted on 10/28/2004 5:15:42 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: notkerry

Wait one: If "drums of explosives" were videotaped,they were obviously NOT INSIDE sealed bunkers.I think it is more accurate to say the reporters filmed drums,which MIGHT have been explosives.

Whatever was taped proves nothing-one way or the other.

Good old fashioned common sense seems indicated here:Removing hundreds of tons-or even 3 tons-of RDX would have involved quite some organization: workers,trucks,etc.,and would have required the use of some form of protective gear-because RDX is VERY nasty stuff !!

I can't quite see that going on while the area was swarming with combatants and aircraft were shooting up anything they could find on the roads.

Logic dictates it was moved out long before our troops arrived.


31 posted on 10/28/2004 5:16:15 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

A Michael Moore production, no doubt. This is in direct contrast to the pentagon satellite photos.


32 posted on 10/28/2004 5:16:29 PM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: El Paul

I see felines in your future...


34 posted on 10/28/2004 5:16:44 PM PDT by Geronimo
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To: El Paul
The video is quite compelling.

Only a low level troll would think so.

35 posted on 10/28/2004 5:16:55 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: South40

Where on these labels does it say HMX or RDX?

How do we know that these reporters even know what they are talking about? Tommy Franks says there was nothing there (via NRO's the kerry spot). Who are we going to believe, ABC or Tommy Franks and 101st Airborne/3ID?


36 posted on 10/28/2004 5:17:07 PM PDT by hansel
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To: Admin Moderator; Gustafm1000; El Paul
First few posts on this thread laced with newbies declaring negative assertions about President Bush. Cases in point, above.
37 posted on 10/28/2004 5:17:12 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: notkerry

ABC is reporting this to...is the video conclusive...could it have been doctored or something...I don't see how it is AT ALL possible that they could have been taken after we had control of it.


38 posted on 10/28/2004 5:17:27 PM PDT by housewife101
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To: bluecollarman
It could just as well be gun powder. That and about 49 other things can classify as 1.1D exposives. Did they cut a UN seal to get into the building?

Here is a partial list of what can or is characterized as 1.1D. And you are right...gunpowder is on the list.

39 posted on 10/28/2004 5:17:31 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: notkerry

All we need to do is create an ad where Kerry was when they hoisted the US flag upside down. You don't get any more powerful of an image than that.


40 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:06 PM PDT by xuberalles
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To: South40

I've said it for the last 4 days.

This story will not convince anybody that was going to vote for Bush to abandon their decision.

What it does do, IMHO, is raise the question of Saddam's threat.

A threat that had been dismissed by Kerry and the Democrats.

If it plays to undecideds, it seems to me it would play on the level that Saddam had stockpiles of dangerous explosives, something that up to this time has not been said. All we've heard was "no WMD", but now these missing explosives being touted as so dangerous by Kerry, would reinforce the fact that Iraq needed to be invaded.


41 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:06 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: dinok
This is a weak attack aimed at Bush and is smearing the entire US Armed Forces. It doesn't add one new point to the arguement . It does validate what we have been saying about the MSM all along. What are we going to do about it? Duck and cover is not an option!!!!
42 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:06 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: Gustafm1000
I would suggest that some barrels vs. some truckloads is quite a derived 'fact'

--additionall, rest assured that since we were there and documented the small cache -that we secured it and have either already destroyed it or have scheduled its destruction -I am sure the documentation will surface soon...

43 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:12 PM PDT by DBeers
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To: El Paul

It's only compelling to leftwing traitors and Bush haters. If these leftist criminals keep pushing and get their civil war it will be these traitors that are put away first.

Powder. Dry.


44 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:24 PM PDT by soycd
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How can any "news" service put this stuff out without taking the time to verify what it really is? Look at the title to the video "May be..." This even has you guys believing that it is actual footage of "missing explosives" that BUSH, himself, failed to guard. It's made up, it's garbage and it no more substantiates their story than the little secretary saying that Killian "felt" a certain way about Bush. Give me a break.


45 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:24 PM PDT by RecallMoran (The left would RATHER lie)
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To: Drammach

"Literally, THOUSANDS of U.S. servicemen had to have seen them as well..
I haven't heard much, or ANY verification from them as of yet.."

And you think ABC would ask 101st soliers anything? They are on elect Kerry mode.

This is not about the truth, its about political perceptions and convincing the last morrons to switch to Kerry. Soccer moms and college kids voting for the first time...like I said...idiots.


46 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:41 PM PDT by dinok
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To: El Paul
Well, sorry, but this stuff is/ are not the fabled WMD. This is stuff that Iraq already had in 1991 -- it has been under IAEA seal for all this time, after they asked for and got permission to keep it -- until it walked away sometime after we got there.

First of all, you have no idea what is in that barrel. Secondly, if the contents of that barrel were so dangerous, why were the Iraqis given permission to keep it and what moron gave them that permission.

Here's a clue: Baradei.

47 posted on 10/28/2004 5:18:48 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Breaking News: Al Qaqaa HE blows up Kerry Campaign!)
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To: bluecollarman
It could just as well be gun powder. That and about 49 other things can classify as 1.1D exposives. Did they cut a UN seal to get into the building?

Excellent question. Also the quantity problem for alarmists. Also, the other witnesses who saw none of the really nasty stuff.

48 posted on 10/28/2004 5:19:01 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: hansel
Where on these labels does it say HMX or RDX?

It doesn't. I merely posted the pictures of what was and is the topic of this discussion.

The fact is, it could have been gunpowder.

49 posted on 10/28/2004 5:19:13 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

What independent experts say that?

How can they tell what type of explosive in the drum unless they can sample it?


50 posted on 10/28/2004 5:19:20 PM PDT by tomahawk
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