Posted on 10/28/2004 6:03:10 PM PDT by tpaine
I WANT MY GUNS!! AND I DON'T CARE HOW I GET THEM. I will not, however, pretend that the BOR dictates it. Now does that convince you that I love
guns? Or am I still just a faker?
-ray-
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I'm more convinced that ever that you are deeply confused.
Get some rest.
Get a clue.
Are you referring to the wholesale expansion of the size and reach of the Federal government via the Commerce Clause?
It still plagues us today with a huge Federal bureaucracy involving itself in areas such as health care, domestic crime, and education.
Interestingly enough, all Federal gun laws were passed using the Commerce Clause as the grant of authority.
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It defies all common sense to write a Constitution for a United States, then claim that separate States can ignore its Amendments protecting individual rights. It is constitutionally illegitimate for a state to infringe on our RKBA's.
If I thought as you do, that the supremacy clause applies the BOR to the states, then I would agree. But I don't.
That is exactly what I am referring to, and of course, all federal gun laws are completely unconstitutional.
Government is certainly infringing when it removes a means of self defense. But governments are infringement machines, which is why we want them to be limited in scope.
If your State outlawed gun ownership, would you turn in your firearms?
I'll decline to answer this one on the grounds that the issue if civil disobedience is getting a bit far from the original issue of Federalism (;^)
If I thought as you do, that the supremacy clause applies the BOR to the states, then I would agree. But I don't.
Why do you think CA can legitimately infringe on your right to own a socalled 'assault rifle'?
I can find nothing in the California constitution which prohibits the state legislature from writing such a law. So I have to conclude that the law is legally legitimate.
We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.
-- Hillary Clinton
I can find nothing in the California constitution which prohibits the state legislature from writing such a law. So I have to conclude that the law is legally legitimate.
-- Database
Simple, clear purpose and principles give rise to complex intelligent behavior.
[Blindly following] Complex rules and regulations give rise to simple stupid behavior.
-- Dee Hock
BUMP
I see you discovered tpaine's true nature :)
I also see that he's outa here. Good Riddance.
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