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Buzz Patterson: October Surprise? The Truth Behind Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?:
Human Events Online (via SwiftVets head's up) ^ | 10-26-04 | Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson

Posted on 10/28/2004 10:31:26 PM PDT by cgk


Tuesday, October 26, 2004

October Surprise? The Truth Behind Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?:




"I have nothing to hide. I want you to ask me questions."
--John Kerry, Reuters, August 3, 2004

The only 180 John Kerry hasn't accomplished in his litany of flip-flops throughout his campaign is Standard Form 180, the paperwork necessary for the complete release of his military records from the Department of Defense repository.

The Kerry campaign and website continue to claim he has released all military records. In fact, they've released the few documents painting the senator in a favorable light. There are at least 100 pages, promising to be much more revealing, still unseen. Kerry controls their release. All he has to do is sign the Form 180. To date, he has refused.


It goes without saying the main stream media isn't clamoring for him to comply although they hounded President George Bush relentlessly to release his Air National Guard records. Bush, by the way, did the right thing--he signed his Form 180. Kerry has made his naval service the focal point for his election. Shouldn't we expect the war hero to open his military service to America? Where is the outrage (I ask tongue-in-cheek)? Where is the objective journalism? More realistically, what is Kerry hiding?

Thomas Lipscomb writing for the New York Sun and Geoff Metcalf of NewsMax.com have been pursuing Kerry's military record irregularities and his refusal to authorize their release tirelessly. Without Kerry's assistance, however, it will take a critical and very timely leak or we will never know the truth behind Kerry's military service in time for it to make the difference.

With true patriotism and integrity, John O'Neill and the Swifties have proven beyond any doubt that Kerry lacks the character and moral fiber to be the leader of our men and women in uniform. (As an aside, I've been touring the country with John O'Neill over the last several weeks, and I've never met a finer human being.)


The final element in Kerry's absolute failure to meet the standards our military deserves in a commander-in-chief, in this retired officer's opinion, is in the factual nature of Kerry's discharge (although I would love for some resourceful citizen find a way to republish and distribute Kerry's radical, anti-American tome The New Soldier -- which my publisher Regnery Publishing has offered to do for free -- and hand it out at the polls on November 2).

As for every veteran, the truth will be found the form DD214, the official Department of Defense document of release from military obligation given to Kerry when he exited military service on July 1, 1972. It is conspicuously absent from the documents released so far. Everyone serving in the military receives a DD214 the day they separate or retire from service. My suspicion along with a growing number of military personnel is that Kerry received an "other than honorable" discharge in the early 1970s as a consequence of his vehement anti-US, anti-military activities with the Vietnam Veterans Against the War and his potentially treasonous tête-à-têtes with North Vietnamese Communist officials in Paris. If not, let him release his records. If so, America should demand the release.

Kerry's activities during his post-war political resume building efforts are expressly prohibited by the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 104, Part 904; the United States Code Title 18, Section 953 (18 USC Sec. 953); and, arguably, the Constitution, Article 3, Section 3. In fact, the Constitution's 14th Amendment, Section 3

declares, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President . . . (who has) engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." In another time and another place, at a minimum, Kerry would have faced courts martial. In another time and another place, Kerry would be breaking big rocks into little rocks at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, the military penitentiary. Today, he stands on the brink of election as the leader of the free world.

Kerry has built an entire career based solely on four months in Vietnam and two years of post-war protesting. For a politician to have built so much on, and been so successful with, a foundation consisting largely of self-promotion, lies, and unpatriotic (some say treasonous) endeavors is utterly fantastic and extremely tenuous. And the Dems know it--ergo, the refusal on the part of the Kerry campaign to release the entirety of his military service records.

With what we do know, Kerry's paperwork doesn't pass the smell test. The few records so far released by his campaign identify FOUR "honorable" discharge dates (every other military member I know, myself included, received one). Kerry's released documentation notes discharges of January 3, 1970, February 16, 1978, July 13, 1978, and, most peculiarly, March 12, 2001. He has as many discharge dates as months he spent in Vietnam. In my twenty years in the Air Force and through the thousands of people I came to know and serve with, I have never heard of anyone in the military having more than one DD 214 with one discharge date. Kerry, according to his own campaign, has at least four.

There are five potential classes of discharge: Honorable, General, Other than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. Why does it matter? It's the sum total of one's military service boiled down in a phrase. Most employers require former military members to attach their DD214 to their employment application. Anything other than "Honorable" is seen as a character flaw. Bad Conduct and Dishonorable obviously are causes for additional concern.

Because Kerry is submitting his employment application to the American people and might become our military's next commander in chief, we may be asking our troops to support a man who held himself to lower standards than he would demand from our 2.3 million in uniform. (This is precisely what happened under Bill Clinton's stewardship when the military prosecuted servicemen for sexual infidelity and harassment while the commander-in-chief was committing similar crimes in the Oval Office). In fact, if a former military member applies for employment with defense related industry, he is required to sign and submit Form 180. Kerry, seeking to be CEO for our nation's defense, has refused.

Here's the crux of the confusion. On February 18, 1966, Kerry obligated himself to a six-year commitment to the Navy, and to the tenets of the military judicial system, with an expiration date of July 1, 1972. On January 3, 1970, Kerry asked for, and was granted, an early transfer from his active duty service to the Naval Reserve. As a reservist, he was still under oath as a commissioned officer and subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. He still carried a military ID card and was still a member of the U.S. armed forces. Kerry's service commitment came to an end, as scheduled, in July, 1972. As such, a DD Form 214 with a discharge status was due.

Kerry's "honorable" discharge, though, doesn't come until February 16, 1978. Why? Possibly because President Jimmy Carter, through Proclamation 4483, granted a full and complete pardon to all military personnel who committed offenses and violations of the Military Selective Service Act during the Vietnam War. He pardoned deserters, draft dodgers and those who went absent without leave (AWOL).

Interestingly, Kerry's honorable discharge letter from the Department of the Navy, dated February 16, 1978, notes that Kerry's discharge was taken "by direction of the President" and "with the approved recommendations of a board of officers convened under the authority of reference [10 USC Sec. 1163] to examine the official records of officers of the Naval Reserve.." This is extremely unusual. Review boards are not convened for discharges and certainly not "by direction of the President." The "authority of reference," 10 USC Sec. 1163, refers to "the grounds for involuntary separation from the service." What was being reviewed, then, was Kerry's involuntary separation from the service or, more likely, the disposition of his service. This simply would not have occurred if Kerry's discharge in 1972 had been "honorable." Why did Kerry's discharge meet a board? In all likelihood, he sought relief to improve his status of discharge from "dishonorable" or "less than honorable" to "honorable." If he signed his Form 180, we'd know. If he'd release his DD214 from 1972, we'd know.

Finally, and most bizarre of all of Kerry's military records so far released is a DD 215, "Correction to DD Form 214,"

initiated for John Forbes Kerry on March 12, 2001. Among other things, the new form changes Kerry's official US Navy separation date to March 1, 1970! As noted earlier, he wasn't eligible for discharge until July, 1972, and was so. Why, then, the new document in 2001? Why, 29 years later, is there the need to correct or change the record?

Here's why. By moving Kerry's discharge date to early in 1970, all of Kerry's post-Vietnam activities would be theoretically exempt from military justice. By moving his discharge date to March of 1970, Kerry's meeting with the enemy, North Vietnamese Communists in Paris in May of 1970, would be exempt. His joining the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in June of 1970 and his radical, anti-war anti-government activities that followed would be exempt. The Winter Soldier Investigation in January, 1971, and Kerry's infamous testimony to Congress in April, 1971 would be exempt. His arrest for his protest activities in May, 1971, would be exempt. His attendance at a VVAW meeting in Kansas City where the assassination of several prominent and hawkish U.S. senators was discussed and voted on would be exempt.

Democratic presidential candidate Kerry has spent 35 years building a political career on four months in Vietnam. Apparently, he has spent 35 years covering up his post-war activities while still a member of the U.S. Navy many of which seem to be clear violations of the Constitution, US Codes, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Now, he stands on the verge of becoming our commander-in-chief, responsible for the stewardship of 2.3 million men and women in uniform. A former serviceman who won't come clean on his own record intends to command our forces and enforce the standards of military justice. We've been down this path before. America deserves to know. Our troops certainly deserve to know.

All it would take is for him to sign the Form 180.

- Posted 10:09 AM


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: buzzpatterson; dishonorable; kerry; kerrydischarge; napalminthemorning; swiftvets; vietnam; vvaw; wintersoldier; wot
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I searched all over (Kerry military discharge, October Surprise) and couldn't find this on FR.
1 posted on 10/28/2004 10:31:26 PM PDT by cgk
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To: cgk

This won't get any play, according to the MSM Kerry walks on water. I've given up, the only thing that can help Bush now is faith.


2 posted on 10/28/2004 10:33:03 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo
the only thing that can help Bush now is faith.

And your vote. And mine. And as many others who believe in him also.

3 posted on 10/28/2004 10:35:41 PM PDT by cgk (I'll keep posting it until you READ IT. Pay attention!)
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To: cgk
The only 180 John Kerry hasn't accomplished in his litany of flip-flops throughout his campaign is Standard Form 180

Great line!
4 posted on 10/28/2004 10:36:03 PM PDT by andyk
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To: cgk

I voted absentee last week :)but a dead vote in Philly will probably cancel it out.


5 posted on 10/28/2004 10:36:35 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: cgk
Brokaw interview with Kerry. Interesting response to military records question.
MSNBC ^ | 2004-10-28

Posted on 10/28/2004 8:52:57 PM EDT by jerod

Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Kerry: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...

6 posted on 10/28/2004 10:37:17 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: cgk
The Kerry campaign and website continue to claim he has released all military records.

Kerry told Tom Bochov tonight that they haven't all been released

7 posted on 10/28/2004 10:37:42 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: cgk
Bush, by the way, did the right thing--he signed his Form 180.

I was unaware of this. I knew he had released lots of records, but I thought neither President Bush nor Kerry had signed a 180.
8 posted on 10/28/2004 10:37:55 PM PDT by andyk
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To: cgk
Without Kerry's assistance, however, it will take a critical and very timely leak or we will never know the truth behind Kerry's military service in time for it to make the difference. O.K., then we beat them at their own game; we start the "speculation" that Kerry received a less than honorable discharge until intervention from former President Jimmy Carter. In law, I believe they call that, establishing reasonable doubt.
9 posted on 10/28/2004 10:38:48 PM PDT by no dems (NICE GUYS FINISH LAST. GET RADICAL !!!)
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To: cgk
Best post I've read so far on the issue. Easy for a civilian to understand. Thanks for posting.


10 posted on 10/28/2004 10:44:04 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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To: cgk
This item jarod posted earlier today might help.

Brokaw interview with Kerry

Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Kerry: That's great. More power. I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from.

11 posted on 10/28/2004 10:48:08 PM PDT by MIsunshine
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To: andyk

I don't have a source but I read here that President Bush signed his.


12 posted on 10/28/2004 10:49:15 PM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: Howlin

Interestingly, Kerry's honorable discharge letter from the Department of the Navy, dated February 16, 1978, notes that Kerry's discharge was taken "by direction of the President" and "with the approved recommendations of a board of officers convened under the authority of reference [10 USC Sec. 1163] to examine the official records of officers of the Naval Reserve.."

I have no doubt he was granted less than honorable earlier if this is so and he is not releasing all his records.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 10:51:03 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: hipaatwo

and a motivated base....which he has.

Hell, even the kids are evenly split....for a conservative....that is news.

Hawaii and Jersey in play....Kerry has problems with this election....far more than the Old Media will admit.

Even Soros said as much today.


14 posted on 10/28/2004 10:51:43 PM PDT by wardaddy (The only thing we share with collectivists and ragheads is death.)
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To: no dems
I've sent this info to everyone I felt had the gonads to say something about it. Rush, Anne Coulter, Laura Ingrahm, Sean Hanity, Gibson, O'Reilly, and thats just the Fox bunch. I gave them the FBI file on VVAW and the part about the assaination of Senators, meeting with the VC with commie money backing them and all the dirt.........NADA! Nothing in 2 weeks.

The fix is in! Can't the Swiftboaters do it? I sent it to them also.

15 posted on 10/28/2004 10:53:07 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: cgk
Among other things, the new form changes Kerry's official US Navy separation date to March 1, 1970!

Maybe someone can help me out here. Kerry's DD214 from his website lists a separation date of March 1, 1970. Now, I realize this is a separation from active duty to the USNR (i.e., not a discharge!). It would not be the final entry in his DD214, which would eventually include his discharge from the Naval Reserves. However, I'm confused by the fact that the DD215 appears to update this date of separation (not discharge) to the same date. Furthermore, LTC Patterson appears to pass off the "updated" separation date as a date of discharge. What am I missing here?
16 posted on 10/28/2004 10:53:11 PM PDT by andyk
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To: need_a_screen_name

Bush did sign 180.


17 posted on 10/28/2004 10:53:27 PM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: need_a_screen_name
but I read here that President Bush signed his

Right, that's why I mentioned it. I was a little surprised to read it, actually. Kudos to Bush!
18 posted on 10/28/2004 10:54:42 PM PDT by andyk
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To: MEG33

Which is the paper that Lehman signed?


19 posted on 10/28/2004 11:01:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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20 posted on 10/28/2004 11:07:16 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: hipaatwo; cgk
the only thing that can help Bush now is faith.

......and the computer source codes.

21 posted on 10/28/2004 11:10:21 PM PDT by beyond the sea (ab9usa4uandme)
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To: Howlin

I think it was the silver star..but I wouldn't swear to it.


22 posted on 10/28/2004 11:12:44 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Was going to ping you on this but you got here fast. It's the dates; the most notorious 12 March, 2001. I still suspect a 19 January, 2001 Clinton pardon.


23 posted on 10/28/2004 11:13:09 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: LiberalBassTurds

Agree completely--very clear explanation. Especially liked his assessment of JO'N and don't know anyone who has met him describe him in less glowing terms--a thoroughly decent (not to mention courageous) man and patriot. And--unlike JFK's "band of bros"--utterly ineligible, by virtue of his self-imposed 527 status--for patronage plums of any kind when HIS guy retakes office. (Just a fact the MSM never seem to ponder when they're calculating "integrity.")


24 posted on 10/28/2004 11:13:33 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: hipaatwo

I know the feeling. We voted in Philly in 2000. Creepyville.


25 posted on 10/28/2004 11:14:31 PM PDT by cgk (I'll keep posting it until you READ IT. Pay attention!)
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To: Howlin

Lehman's signature is on Kerry's Silver Star commendation. Lehman denies having signed it.


26 posted on 10/28/2004 11:16:43 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: cgk

Unfortunately it's probably too late in the game for this issue to become front page news, plus Kerry is not gonna win. But I think we all owe it to our Vietnam Veterans, and all of our other Veterans, to expose John Kerry for the fraud he is.


27 posted on 10/28/2004 11:18:25 PM PDT by MJY1288 (A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK HAS NEVER LED ANY TEAM TO VICTORY)
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To: hipaatwo

If the RNC went did an all out attack on his records they would have to get out there one way or another,but the Bush team is losing this election by there NICENESS.


28 posted on 10/28/2004 11:23:36 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: MJY1288

If Drudge would get off his ass and link to this story, he would have himself a new blue dress.


29 posted on 10/28/2004 11:24:23 PM PDT by stevestras
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To: stevestras

Drudge won't touch any of this stuff and I can't figure out why.


30 posted on 10/28/2004 11:26:54 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: Mach9
I'm with you Mach9. Great comparison in contrast of the two men. Well, one man and Kerry. :^)


31 posted on 10/28/2004 11:31:12 PM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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To: no dems

Speculation my ass! The preponderance of the evidence points to Kerry being dis-honorably discharged for aiding and comforting the communists in Vietnam during war. He has no Constitutional right to hold his Senate seat let alone the Presidency. Lawsuit time.


32 posted on 10/28/2004 11:45:26 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Vote Kerry: The Space Needle is an eyesore anyway.)
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To: cgk

A question what did Kerry take for his 'other than honorable discharge'?

Penicillin?

Or was it some peanut butter?


33 posted on 10/28/2004 11:45:26 PM PDT by punster
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To: cgk

Another great ad idea...Bush's records, video of their release...Kerry on Tim Russert promising that all records were or would be released....Kerry and Blowchow, that the records HAVE NOT BEEN RELEASED.


34 posted on 10/28/2004 11:51:49 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: cgk
"Buzz" Patterson is a 'good guy'! He had an insider's view of the White House during the Slick years--as the President's aide 'carrying the football.'

He's the author of "DERELICTION OF DUTY"--great reading about how Slick was derelict in his duty as President.

35 posted on 10/28/2004 11:52:47 PM PDT by stockstrader
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


36 posted on 10/29/2004 12:04:29 AM PDT by rennatdm
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To: chuckles

You would think that someone in the press would be demanding that skerry sign the 180. I do recall that a news organization requested his records under FOIA.

They were given several pages (less than 10), and told that there were still 100 pages in the file which would require the signed 180 due to privacy act requirements.

I am just so OUTRAGED that the news media has not been asking for this daily that I could just croooooooak. He told Russert on Meet The Press that he would-and silence from the media. our wonderful wonderful media--NOT.


37 posted on 10/29/2004 12:06:29 AM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Laffalot

bump


38 posted on 10/29/2004 12:13:13 AM PDT by Laffalot
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To: Howlin; xzins
Brokaw: Someone has analyzed the President's military aptitude tests and yours, and concluded that he has a higher IQ than you do.

Why isn't this getting its own thread? How many times have we heard Kerry is brilliant and Bush is a bumbler?

Now five days before the election Tom Brokaw is stating Bush has a higher IQ than John Kerry.

Thanks for nothing, MSM. Next they'll be telling us Bush has signed his 180 and Kerry hasn't.

39 posted on 10/29/2004 12:31:55 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: MIsunshine
Thanks...I wonder why "Tommie Terrific", isn't illuminating this utterance, is too nuanced? {/sarcasm off}
40 posted on 10/29/2004 1:16:55 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: cgk


All this speculation is great, but unless this drops *tomorrow* there's no point in wondering about it.


41 posted on 10/29/2004 1:22:51 AM PDT by Timm
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I'm in love with all the swiftboat vets. Don't tell Art though. :o)


42 posted on 10/29/2004 2:04:06 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (It's simple, support the troops, fight terrorism, live & live free.... Vote for Bush!)
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To: Timm

The next crusade after the President's re-election should be exposing that phony traitor and removing him from office. . There is somebody out there who knows the story and the swifties probably know where they are.....and if they don't I still have a little money to help them find those folks.


43 posted on 10/29/2004 2:23:12 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver (www.RealHeroesVoices.com....see the real John Kerry)
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To: cgk
By moving Kerry's discharge date to early in 1970, all of Kerry's post-Vietnam activities would be theoretically exempt from military justice. By moving his discharge date to March of 1970, Kerry's meeting with the enemy, North Vietnamese Communists in Paris in May of 1970, would be exempt. His joining the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in June of 1970 and his radical, anti-war anti-government activities that followed would be exempt. The Winter Soldier Investigation in January, 1971, and Kerry's infamous testimony to Congress in April, 1971 would be exempt. His arrest for his protest activities in May, 1971, would be exempt. His attendance at a VVAW meeting in Kansas City where the assassination of several prominent and hawkish U.S. senators was discussed and voted on would be exempt.

OMG. I've never read this before.

44 posted on 10/29/2004 2:33:13 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 10/29/2004 3:00:29 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: E.G.C.

Bump


46 posted on 10/29/2004 3:14:25 AM PDT by CPL BAUM (for the greater glory of God, Country & Corps)
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To: cgk

Great quote: "The only 180 John Kerry hasn't accomplished in his litany of flip-flops throughout his campaign is Standard Form 180."


47 posted on 10/29/2004 3:47:29 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ( "[Y]our arguments are devoid of value. I, as a woman, have so declared it." -- BushIsTheMan)
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To: cgk
By moving Kerry's discharge date to early in 1970, all of Kerry's post-Vietnam activities would be theoretically exempt from military justice.

bottom line

48 posted on 10/29/2004 3:58:19 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: cgk

Truth has no need to hide in the dark.


49 posted on 10/29/2004 4:03:52 AM PDT by chuknospam
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To: cgk

Kerry didn't help yesterday by admitted that to Brokejaw that his military records are sealed. What a complete jackass Kerry is.


50 posted on 10/29/2004 4:05:16 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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