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Mall sealed off in Winston-Salem, Bomb threat at Courthouse. (Courthouse, Mall Evacuated)
Officemates ^ | 10/28/04 | rebelbase

Posted on 10/29/2004 8:45:21 AM PDT by Rebelbase

Just got an IM from my office over in Winston.

Per xxxx, Please be aware. Stay away from Hanes Mall (and the Hanes Mall area). A substance was sprayed there earlier that has made people sick. They have sealed off the mall. Also, there has been a bomb threat at the courthouse.

I'll keep you updated. http://www.wxii12.com/news/3872535/detail.html


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: forsythcounty; hanesmall; terrorism; winstonsalem

1 posted on 10/29/2004 8:45:22 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

Courthouse, Mall Evacuated In Winston-Salem

POSTED: 10:36 am EDT October 29, 2004
UPDATED: 11:02 am EDT October 29, 2004

WINSTON-SALEM -- Authorities have evacuated the Forsyth County courthouse and a shopping mall following separate incidents Friday morning.

Police say a male caller contacted the clerk's office around 9:30 a.m. and told the clerk to empty the building. Bomb-sniffing dogs are searching the building and the block surrounding the courthouse has been sealed off.

At Hanes Mall, workers said someone entered the mall and sprayed a substance on the lower level. Mall officials confirm that the mall has been evacuated, and police say several dozen people have been quarantined.

The Forsyth County Sheriff's Office referred to the substance as a "suspicious biological agent." A hazardous materials unit is at the mall.

We'll have more on these stories on our noon newscast.


2 posted on 10/29/2004 8:45:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
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To: Rebelbase
The Forsyth County Sheriff's Office referred to the substance as a "suspicious biological agent." A hazardous materials unit is at the mall.

That does not sound good.

3 posted on 10/29/2004 8:47:00 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Rebelbase

Hopefully it's just kids with pepper spray...not an unknown stunt in these parts.


4 posted on 10/29/2004 8:47:38 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Democrats: appear in September, leavin' November 3 - worse than a 1-night stand...)
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To: Rebelbase; TaxRelief; Helms; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day, TaxRelief OR Helms if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
5 posted on 10/29/2004 8:48:14 AM PDT by Constitution Day (I don't know where the sunbeams end and the starlights begin, it's all a mystery...)
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To: Pete

Hm. How would they know it's a "biological" agent so quickly?


6 posted on 10/29/2004 8:48:27 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Rebelbase

"The Forsyth County Sheriff's Office referred to the substance as a "suspicious biological agent." A hazardous materials unit is at the mall.
"

Well, it could be. Or it might not be. How does the Sherrif's Office know it is a biological agent? Testing for that takes a while.

Apparently, it disturbed some people or made them ill. That sounds like a chemical, rather than a biological agent. Could be almost anything.

As always, it's best to use caution before calling an unknown material anything but an unknown material.


7 posted on 10/29/2004 8:49:18 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Constitution Day

Local news coming up at 12:00, I'll watch and let you know if there are any updates.


8 posted on 10/29/2004 8:49:42 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
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To: Pete

http://www.fox8wghp.com/news/

update. looks like it is starting to wind down.


9 posted on 10/29/2004 8:50:07 AM PDT by applpie
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To: MineralMan
Apparently, it disturbed some people or made them ill. That sounds like a chemical, rather than a biological agent. Could be almost anything.

Or no agent at all. Have been zillions of instances of MSI (Mass Sociogenic Illness) since the Anthrax attacks.

10 posted on 10/29/2004 8:50:19 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Rebelbase

So, the Kerry creature can come on tv tonight and scream that Bush isn't doing enough to keep us safe.

This is transparent.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 8:50:20 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swill leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: applpie

Thanks.

Someone sprayed an irritant in the lower level of Hanes Mall this morning. The Winston-Salem Fire Department took samples which tested negative for anything that might be considered weapons of mass destruction. There were four victims who recovered at the scene and were not transported to the hospital. The substance is currently being tested to find out exactly what type of irritant was sprayed. The Winston-Salem Police Department and the SBI are looking in to this morning's incident. Some sections of the mall are now open, while others continue to be closed while the investigation continues.


12 posted on 10/29/2004 8:50:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
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To: cartan

"Hm. How would they know it's a "biological" agent so quickly?"

Good point. I don't see how. Probably some tear gass or chemical thing. Possible prank? Let's hope so.


13 posted on 10/29/2004 8:51:02 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/johnkerry.htm)
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To: applpie
update. looks like it is starting to wind down

Good news.

14 posted on 10/29/2004 8:51:16 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Rebelbase

Great, thanks. Headed to lunch in 5 mins.


15 posted on 10/29/2004 8:51:18 AM PDT by Constitution Day (I don't know where the sunbeams end and the starlights begin, it's all a mystery...)
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To: Rebelbase

Probably "Fart Spray". Used to funny to do when I was a kid, but now it probably means jail time, or some hellacious fines...


16 posted on 10/29/2004 8:51:37 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ("I don't worry about Muggers. My biggest fear is Poachers." - Elizabeth Edwards)
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To: marblehead17

Hanes Mall in W-S.


17 posted on 10/29/2004 8:52:56 AM PDT by Darth Reagan (your lazy butts are in this too)
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To: cartan
Hm. How would they know it's a "biological" agent so quickly?

They don't. But I'm sure it sounded good to whoever the PR person is.

18 posted on 10/29/2004 8:53:00 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

19 posted on 10/29/2004 8:54:09 AM PDT by mhking
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To: FourPeas
There is technology out there to make a rapid bio determination, but your right it is unlikely bio. My bet is pepper spray.
20 posted on 10/29/2004 8:56:49 AM PDT by TBall
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To: Rebelbase
DAMN!!! I was just there this past weekend. I hope this isn't what it looks like it is!!!!!
21 posted on 10/29/2004 8:58:29 AM PDT by KoRn
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To: KoRn
I hope this isn't what it looks like it is!!!!!

The 545,523,656th false bio-attack in the last three years?

22 posted on 10/29/2004 9:01:27 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Constitution Day
Typically, channel 12 knows almost nothing. They say it was not biological but beyond that, they know very little. Supposedly the suspect was caught on tape.

Stay tuned

23 posted on 10/29/2004 9:02:35 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: Constitution Day

12:00 newscast.

Someone went to the 2nd level balcony about 5 min. before the mall stores opened and sprayed some kind of substance, which caused burning eyes, throats.

Perp ran, Cops called, Mall sealed off. No bio agent, mall reopened. Reviewing mall security cams for a pic. of the perp.

Also, the Courthouse bomb scare was just that, nothing found. Probably some guy who didn't want to face a judge today.


24 posted on 10/29/2004 9:04:20 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
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To: Strategerist

Have you noticed how many have signed up on FR this year, 9/11?


25 posted on 10/29/2004 9:08:56 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Fast Eddie and Big Betty--let them sue McDonald's and leave us alone)
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To: Rebelbase

Don't get too excited about the bomb threat though.... they get bomb threats all the time, pre and post 9/11, it's always just a threat.


26 posted on 10/29/2004 9:10:24 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: Rebelbase

Just the fact that a caller warned them to evacuate points to a hoax to cause fear - real terrorists would do everything possible to ensure casualties.


27 posted on 10/29/2004 9:12:16 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: Rebelbase

One possibility is the gas released when the janitor accidentally dumps too much bleach into the water, or combines bleach with an ammonia based cleaner. Can't count the number of times people forget bleach is chlorine (mustard gas) or the bleach-ammonia deadly combination.

Another possibility is the use of chemical agents in stripping the tile. Again the janitor forgot to ventilate the area.

Another possibility is that a floor service coated the wood in one of the department stores with a fresh coat of poly which required the use of a bonding agent instead of sanding the floor. I used a bonding substance called Wil-Bond on a floor once that released vapors that could knock a moose over in a heartbeat.

Just some amateur ideas on the cause that's not terror related...Funny how 9-11 changed how we see a half-wit janitor's bright idea of combining bleach and ammonia as a terror plot.


28 posted on 10/29/2004 9:24:01 AM PDT by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: Rebelbase

Chicago PD found a grenede on a propane tank somewhere around Midway Airport last night. No other info given, other than they blew it up to disarm it.


29 posted on 10/29/2004 9:53:57 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: MineralMan

Relax. It was French perfume.


30 posted on 10/29/2004 10:01:52 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: NCSteve; Rebelbase

Thanks for the info, guys. Sounds like no big deal, really.


31 posted on 10/29/2004 10:03:15 AM PDT by Constitution Day (I don't know where the sunbeams end and the starlights begin, it's all a mystery...)
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To: Pete

After much ado, the substance is usualy pepper spray.


32 posted on 10/29/2004 10:03:52 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: traviskicks

they have sniffers that identify bad stuff pretty quickly....they are installed in LA and NYC downtown near the subway stops


33 posted on 10/29/2004 10:25:50 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Rebelbase

We need NC FReepers to watch this story carefully. The MSM always spins for "nothing here, folks."


34 posted on 10/29/2004 10:31:15 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: sully777

The same thing happens if you poor bleach on urine -- because of the ammonia. I used to have to do this to do this to clean my kids' bathroom, then I'd shut the bathroom door and run for it. Ended up killing my Bamboo plant.


35 posted on 10/29/2004 10:32:12 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy (My plan has a plan.)
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To: Constitution Day

Thanks for the ping! Any updates on this?


36 posted on 10/29/2004 11:01:19 AM PDT by Petes Sandy Girl (~*~ W '04 ~*~)
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To: Petes Sandy Girl

See #24.


37 posted on 10/29/2004 11:04:14 AM PDT by Constitution Day (I don't know where the sunbeams end and the starlights begin, it's all a mystery...)
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To: Rebelbase

This is so weird... I just got back from early voting at the 201 Chestnut location downtown and a bunch of streets were blocked off. There were quite a few people who were kicked out of the courthouse, because of the threat, who used that time to vote;-) It has been blocked off for a while now.


38 posted on 10/29/2004 11:10:39 AM PDT by cobaltblu
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To: Strategerist

How many zeros are in a zillion?


39 posted on 10/29/2004 12:55:53 PM PDT by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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To: Pete

My buddy, Sheriff Bill Schotzman. He's ex-FBI. They couldn't have a better person in charge.


40 posted on 10/29/2004 1:21:06 PM PDT by TaxRelief (380 Tons sounds like WMD to me. One-third of a Kiloton. That's huge.)
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To: Rebelbase

Now this a "nuisance"?


41 posted on 10/29/2004 1:23:46 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Constitution Day

Looks like Bill may have overreacted a tad...


42 posted on 10/29/2004 1:24:13 PM PDT by TaxRelief (380 Tons sounds like WMD to me. One-third of a Kiloton. That's huge.)
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To: Rebelbase

Now this a "nuisance"?


43 posted on 10/29/2004 1:24:18 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I knew you were full of it...

JUST KIDDING FRIEND! :D
44 posted on 10/29/2004 1:32:43 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Heh heh heh ;0)


45 posted on 10/29/2004 1:49:46 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ("I don't worry about Muggers. My biggest fear is Poachers." - Elizabeth Edwards)
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To: Alabama MOM; lacylu

ping


46 posted on 10/29/2004 4:14:51 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (On this day your Prayers are needed!!!!!!!)
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To: All
I go to Hanes Mall often. I was gonna go today but when I heard what had happened I changed my mind. Ill make it there in the next few days. After watching the local news Im sure it was someone doing this on purpose. There is no telling why they did it?
47 posted on 10/29/2004 6:12:20 PM PDT by SQUIDMACK
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To: applpie

Yup. In other news, Easley is continuing his M.O. of pimping corporate welfare. Oooh.... that's upwards of 1,000--no--8000--no--16,000-no--32,000 jobs right there!


48 posted on 10/30/2004 7:05:43 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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