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U.S. Team Took 200 Tons of Iraqi Explosives
Fox News ^ | October 29, 2004

Posted on 10/29/2004 9:32:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON — A U.S. soldier is coming forward Friday to say a team from the 3rd Infantry Division took about 200 tons of explosives from an Iraqi military facility soon after Saddam Hussein's regime fell last year.

The soldier will appear before reporters at noon, EDT. The briefing will be shown on the FOX News Channel.

The announcement is the latest twist in the mystery over what happened to 377 tons of explosives that the International Atomic Energy Agency said had disappeared.

The soldier's story comes as new videotape has surfaced that supports the contention that tons of the explosives were still at the base following Saddam's fall on April 9, 2003. U.S. officials had said they suspected the explosives were taken before U.S.-led forces took Baghdad.

Videotape shot by a Minnesota television crew traveling with U.S. troops in Iraq when they first opened the bunkers at the Al-Qaqaa (search) munitions base nine days after the fall of Saddam Hussein shows what appeared to be high explosives still in barrels and bearing the markings of the International Atomic Energy Agency (search).

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; cbs; explosives; hmx; iraq; kerrylies; nytimes; octobersurprise; rats; rdx; wot
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1 posted on 10/29/2004 9:32:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am confused. Is this good or bad for W? I understand that it was not missing, but is this lapse in the chain of command bad, how will the dims twist it ?


2 posted on 10/29/2004 9:35:18 AM PDT by kendu
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I guess Kerry and his MSM cheerleaders are gonna have to revert back to that old tried (and tried, and tried...) and true (NOT necessarily) Halliburton storyline.

John to John: Well, there's always Halliburton ("You know Cheney was once a part of Halliburton and I was once in Viet Nam") ad naseum...


3 posted on 10/29/2004 9:35:32 AM PDT by demnomo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So what's the bottom line here?

I keep hear we "learned this" and alot of other gobbledygook.

Can they just say WHAT THEY FOUND AND WHERE?

4 posted on 10/29/2004 9:36:01 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kendu

Rush is running the news conference right now - so is Fox News. They're fielding questions.


5 posted on 10/29/2004 9:36:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is disgusting to hear those creepy media people cross-examining our military guys. Who do they think they are? They actually think they know more than our guys who were actually there!!!!!!!


6 posted on 10/29/2004 9:36:11 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: demnomo

Listen to the Pentagon press conference...
The U.S. military destory the weapons.
Bottom line.


7 posted on 10/29/2004 9:37:03 AM PDT by MaryJaneNC
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To: demnomo

Kerry and crowd just tack back and forth with the news cycle.


8 posted on 10/29/2004 9:37:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Joann37

I'm not sure the huys answers makes sense.

He's talking at a micro level. Who cares how you packed and when you got home at 2200 or whatever it was.

Why not just address the question of what happened to this crap. Did they leave stuff behind? Was it gone BEFORE they arrived? Can you answer that?


9 posted on 10/29/2004 9:38:11 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

It's hard to get to the bottom line when the IAEA keeps changing the "facts" that the MSM is blessing as truth.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 9:38:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MaryJaneNC

"The U.S. military destory the weapons.
Bottom line."

Then WHY doesn't this guy just state that?

The more he talks the more confusing things get.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 9:39:21 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That giant sucking sound you hear is Kerry's head imploding........

The accompanying moans you hear are strictly background noise....unavoidable.

12 posted on 10/29/2004 9:39:34 AM PDT by kahoutek
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To: Joann37

They're Kerry voters.


13 posted on 10/29/2004 9:39:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: kendu

Confusion is what the Dems are hoping for--at least at this time. It takes a few days for researchers to nail down many of the facts (fog of war and all) and I'll bet the Ruskies did take stuff out of those bunkers to Syria and there were some explosives left, AND..., WELL, NEVER MIND!

The fact is, the DNC and the MSM jumped the gun again without getting their facts straight just so they could make Bush "look bad" and get their girlie-man hero Kerry elected.


14 posted on 10/29/2004 9:39:58 AM PDT by demnomo
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To: kendu

This is good for Bush - it shows that the stuff was being taken care of by our guys and that Kerry, the MSM, and the U.N. are in cahoots with each other to spin any lies they can in order try and hurt Bush. Since it was only about .1% of weapon material that has been destroyed on over 900 sites, nobody in their right mind could expect any one person to know about it.


15 posted on 10/29/2004 9:40:46 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: nmh

"Sir! We went in there and did it in a day ....it was not that significant."


16 posted on 10/29/2004 9:40:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"It's hard to get to the bottom line when the IAEA keeps changing the "facts" that the MSM is blessing as truth."

Why do we have to go by what the IAEA says? We were there, so why can't they say it was either GONE before we came or moved some where else etc. ?


17 posted on 10/29/2004 9:41:03 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: All

Um - What can Kerry do now? Explosives not looted, but destroyed. Soldier says he came forward when he heard about the story Monday in the NYT and contacted Pentagon.

Looks like they took a few days to get the ducks in a row, then, after Kerry had made enough rope to hang himself (insulted troops, etc.) They hold a press conference.

They don't call Rummy a modern day Machiavelli for nothing!


18 posted on 10/29/2004 9:41:50 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: nmh

Because the MSM is only reporting one side.


19 posted on 10/29/2004 9:42:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thank you for posting the whole story.

The other thread has so many posts I could not find the actual story itself.


20 posted on 10/29/2004 9:42:15 AM PDT by KidGlock (I already voted for Bush/Cheney 2004. Did you?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Only someone like John Kerry would POSSIBLY,,,,

believe the story of--and side with the AEIA,,,,

OVER OUR VERY OWN TROOPS!!!

21 posted on 10/29/2004 9:42:27 AM PDT by stockstrader
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To: nmh

Major Pearson, you are a liar... a creepy liar... liar... liar... liar... liar... liar...

Just a preview of Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC tonight.


22 posted on 10/29/2004 9:42:35 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The major removed 200-250 tons of material from the site, which was but a small part of the 7,000 tons that was destroyed under the major's supervision.

The press is apoplectic, insisting this wasn't the same stuff! Unbelievable!


23 posted on 10/29/2004 9:42:54 AM PDT by hlmencken3 (Ben Yishai Chai Vekaiyam!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Soooo, how do they know it was 377 tons if it was not there?

Where did the newsweenies know it was 387 or 377 tons?

Also, if there is no (supposed) connection with Iraq and al qaeda, then why are these al qaeda guys being shot at and caught in Iraq where all these high explosives were stored?


24 posted on 10/29/2004 9:43:09 AM PDT by HighWheeler (Death is better than taxes because death doesn't get worse every year.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

basically Iraq was bulging with all kinds of weapons & ordinance and it's impossible to account for it all here & there while Saddam had been moving it all around so the media is trying to make it such that all of the stuff the military has found & destroyed is irrelevant while a speck of anything which they can claim might have been missed would be bad. This is the guy who's supervised removing tons & tons of this kind of stuff & the media is perplexed that he's saying "yeah I removed trucks of this & trucks of that, we had to use fork lifts, tractors trailers, etc."


25 posted on 10/29/2004 9:43:13 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Sir! We went in there and did it in a day ....it was not that significant."

Then all the more since it was insigninfact WHY can't they account for this crap? It is insignificant but an issue is being made of this and it must be put to rest. Our military is being made out to look like bumbling idiots -which they are not.
26 posted on 10/29/2004 9:43:59 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kendu

I think it's good but the democrats will try to twist it.

The democrats will cry that the president wasn't holding the hand of the military. It will put Kerry into the position of saying that our troops can't be trusted and that war should be run from the whitehouse.


27 posted on 10/29/2004 9:44:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

the media doesn't get it - relative to everything Saddam has had and what we've yet to find, this is relatively trivial operation.


28 posted on 10/29/2004 9:44:37 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: joeystoy
The major will be called a "LIAR" by BOTH Lawrence O'Donnell and Joe Lockhart!!!!!
29 posted on 10/29/2004 9:44:39 AM PDT by stockstrader
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To: nmh

he said he had accounted for it though the records were classified.


30 posted on 10/29/2004 9:45:21 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: nmh

I had to stop watching becuase I didn't know what the hell was going on.


31 posted on 10/29/2004 9:45:33 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One of the first contractors to hit the ground there was Parsons, who set up a facility to dispose of ordnance. Thats all they do.


32 posted on 10/29/2004 9:46:15 AM PDT by marron
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To: Steven W.

"he said he had accounted for it though the records were classified."

Okay ... I missed that.

Don't get me wrong, our troops are effective and do their jobs. Kerry will turn this around. He hates the military.


33 posted on 10/29/2004 9:47:26 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

KEEPING THE FOCUS ON FOREIGN POLICY, NATIONAL SECURITY, 9/11, IRAQ, WMD, WOT, SADDAM HUSSEIN, and off the RATs Social Security demogaugery and.....BUSH WINS!!! PERIOD!


34 posted on 10/29/2004 9:47:28 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: nmh
Can they just say WHAT THEY FOUND AND WHERE?

complicated issue. the united states can answer the question as you posed it. however, the question has to be taken into the broader context that involves time lines prior to our invasion. The united nations has a role, some say russia has a role and the united states has a role. the united nations is not being forthright and the russian's role is unknown to the MSM. piecing toghether all the pieces to the puzzle in the atmosphere of some uncooperative parties is a difficult task.

35 posted on 10/29/2004 9:47:35 AM PDT by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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Rush is playing the pentagon briefing on his show now.
Mods pulled my thread for some strange reason, so here is the link for Rush's show which is on now.

http://www.kfi640.com/interactive/streaming.html


36 posted on 10/29/2004 9:47:50 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Steven W.

Can the Major say or not say..."we removed All the munitions at Al Quaqua"? Why is that so difficult to say? Was there anything left to loot?
I don't understand why they are pussyfooting at this press conference. Either you're ready to say what happened or your not. If not, don't hold a press conference. There's too much "uhhhs" and "hmmms" here. They look like they are fumbling for words. I say just shut up.


37 posted on 10/29/2004 9:47:52 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: Joann37
Agree!

I would like to massage these reporters' knees with a Louisville slugger.

38 posted on 10/29/2004 9:48:04 AM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: cripplecreek
Kerry's nit-picking dishonors tradition***... Wars have always been messy and uneven affairs, as Kerry well knows, marked by as many blunders as bold strokes. And trying to second-guess a commander in chief each time something goes wrong in war isn't something Americans have embraced. If they had, Abraham Lincoln would have been out of office after Bull Run; Franklin Roosevelt would have been ousted when the North African campaign got off to a rocky start; and Harry Truman would have been pilloried during the disastrous opening months of the Korean War. ...***
39 posted on 10/29/2004 9:48:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: rwfromkansas
To say it was a convoluted press meeting is being kind.
40 posted on 10/29/2004 9:48:29 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: HighWheeler

387 tons? Did he personally measure that? And are there certified witnesses? And were there pictures? And who ordered him to do this? And why didn't he notify the UN of such an order? And why didn't he personally brief Rumsfeld about this event? And why didn't Vikings win any big games last season? And will the Yankees come back? And did Katie Couric actually get a boob job done? And why did Columbus actually leave his crew there upon the island when he sailed back? And why isn't CNN in the top of the charts? Why Why Why

These are important questions...that I sit around and think about. It usually takes 3 beers...but today....it took only 1. My life is a woeful event....I need a real life...you know.


41 posted on 10/29/2004 9:48:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: mlocher

Well said.


42 posted on 10/29/2004 9:49:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Steven W.

"he said he had accounted for it though the records were classified."

makes sense to me



43 posted on 10/29/2004 9:50:25 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: GOP_Proud

I have to agree with you.

Till they are certain of "what they have learned" they shouldn't be saying anything but we're looking into it or something like that.


44 posted on 10/29/2004 9:50:34 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The press really need a manners lesson. They were as bad as I've ever seen them.


45 posted on 10/29/2004 9:50:50 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The MSM wing of the Democratic Party is desperate to deny the truth of the Major's report. The "When did you stop beating your wife" questions reinforced my belief that most MSM types are openly partisan.


46 posted on 10/29/2004 9:50:59 AM PDT by Irish Queen
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I'm confused too. Why is this whole story relevant to who should be President? Basically Kerry and others are trying to say they are blaming the President. But they are really saying the troops didn't do their job. Shouldn't Americans be upset about that?


47 posted on 10/29/2004 9:51:05 AM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Simple question should be posed to Kerry and the RATS:

Who sir do you believe is telling the truth? Our men and women of the military or an Egyptian administrator appointed by the UN to run IAEA?

The answer will come out like this:

Well, it is a little bit more complicated than that....


48 posted on 10/29/2004 9:51:45 AM PDT by bubman
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To: pepsionice

"And why did Columbus actually leave his crew there upon the island when he sailed back? "

I thought one of the ships was destroyed on the rocks, so he did not have enough transport.

;)


49 posted on 10/29/2004 9:52:46 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: GOP_Proud

I get the impression the Major was not sure exactly
what munitions he removed. Wouldn't he need to know
what type of handling was required for a certain type
of explosives.

I don't hear any big news here.


50 posted on 10/29/2004 9:52:46 AM PDT by dwilli
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