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Bin Laden Appears on New Tape
Fox News ^ | 10-29-04 | Jrmink

Posted on 10/29/2004 1:27:53 PM PDT by jrmink

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To: dawn53

Osama obviously has seen Michael Moore's movie. Are they showing it in Pakistan? I heard they are showing it in Iran, but that the Iranians did not think much of it.


51 posted on 10/29/2004 1:41:44 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: aft_lizard

Never heard of him (Brett Blair).


52 posted on 10/29/2004 1:41:44 PM PDT by theDentist (Proud Member of FreeRepublic 's "Pyjama-Hadeen")
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To: Soul_of_Chogokin

Hmmmmm member since 8-12-2004 and you make a comment like that?


53 posted on 10/29/2004 1:42:00 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: jrmink
The fact that much of the main stream media is playing down that much of what Kerry and OBL are saying in their attacks against the president are the same things is the clearest indication of left-wing bias. Can anyone imagine in WWII if FDR opponent and Hitler/Mussolini were saying same things against the president?
54 posted on 10/29/2004 1:42:16 PM PDT by stopillegalimmigration
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To: tomahawk
Surely Americans aren't that stupid.

As my grandpa used to say, "You know how dumb the average guy is? Well half of 'em are dumber than THAT!"

Seriously, though, I am very skeptical that this tape is going to swing a committed voter one way or the other. Those whose primary issue is "Who's going to protect me best?" have made their choice: Bush (smarter than average) or sKerry (all those other guys my grandpa talked about).

55 posted on 10/29/2004 1:43:02 PM PDT by good_fight
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To: BenLurkin

56 posted on 10/29/2004 1:43:07 PM PDT by Registered (They couldn't find the artist, so they hung the picture)
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To: All

could this be a fake tape??? does anyone know if this could be made up by some "geek" ??


57 posted on 10/29/2004 1:43:25 PM PDT by camas
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To: SF South Park Republican

Kerry talking points, yes, and also wishful thinking. No doubt he hoped to kill our President with one of those planes--perhaps the one that went down in PA.


58 posted on 10/29/2004 1:43:32 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: BenLurkin

59 posted on 10/29/2004 1:43:41 PM PDT by Registered (They couldn't find the artist, so they hung the picture)
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To: Brilliant
I heard they are showing it in Iran, but that the Iranians did not think much of it.

Iranian public didn't. What about their psyops intel folk?

60 posted on 10/29/2004 1:43:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: tomahawk
Surely Americans aren't that stupid.

A lot of them are, and don't call me Shirley. That's my uncle.....

61 posted on 10/29/2004 1:44:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (Ask not for whom the Freeper freeps, they freep for thee........)
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To: theDentist

I wrote Brett Bair, should be Baier but either way. The tape has been confirmed by the intelligence community a little while ago.


62 posted on 10/29/2004 1:44:49 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: JessieHelmsJr

bin Laden is just one of those foreign leaders that Kerry has been bragging about for 6 months.


63 posted on 10/29/2004 1:44:55 PM PDT by scannell
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To: jrmink

***Looks Like bin laden is endorsing Kerry***

EXACTLY! If Bin Laden doesn't want Bush, then he wants Kerry. Obviously, he believes Kerry would be more sympathetic to having Americans blown to bits.


64 posted on 10/29/2004 1:45:08 PM PDT by kitkat ("The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay)
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To: jrmink

These tapes never mention anything recent, their old footage, no news here, he's dead folks


65 posted on 10/29/2004 1:45:23 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: jrmink

I'm John Kerry, and I endorse this message.


66 posted on 10/29/2004 1:45:58 PM PDT by stopillegalimmigration
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To: jrmink

Countdown for how long before we hear the dems blame Karl Rove for setting this up to make Kerry look bad?

3....

2....


1...


67 posted on 10/29/2004 1:46:35 PM PDT by leftcoaster
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To: Shermy
Don't know if it will work to put in Kerry, but if it does, chalk it up to the "genius" Rove who decided long ago to not explain anything about the workings of the WOT, and foreign duplicities.

You are, without doubt, the most pessimistic, negative poster on this forum.

You seem not to know that terrorism works FOR Bush, and against Kerry.

All Kerry can say is "See, we haven't gotten bin Laden." Bush can point out that bin Laden is essentially using Kerry talking points.

Then, Bush can ask this question: "Who do you think bin Laden wants in the White House for the next four years?"

68 posted on 10/29/2004 1:47:39 PM PDT by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

im suprised osama didnt have the normal disclaimer.....
"this message has been approved by john kerry"


69 posted on 10/29/2004 1:47:53 PM PDT by beansox
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To: Registered

Yup!


70 posted on 10/29/2004 1:48:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: usastandsunited

You are worried about bin Laden. For goodness sakes we have a major war going on around the world and you are worried about one man, when we have already killed thousands of his followers. Yes, go ahead and elect John Kerry and let the United Nations fight the war on terror. Given three more years with thinking like yours and you won't have a worry in the world. You won't have a head either!! A vote for John Kerry is a vote for your own doom.


71 posted on 10/29/2004 1:49:09 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: evanp
What about a "November Surprise!"?

Americans wake up to Monday morning news reporting that Usama bin Laden has been captured by U.S. and coalition forces.

The news couldn't get much better than that before the election.

72 posted on 10/29/2004 1:49:15 PM PDT by Zon
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To: jrmink
Hitler survived almost to the very end of WW2. In fact he rejoiced and thanked God when Roosevelt died. Bin Laden, or who ever is controlling him, is simply trying to manipulate the American electorate. Remember the Spanish election. Are we a better people than those who caved (no pun intended) to the terrorists and elected a Socialist president of Spain, or our we as weak minded and weak spirited as the once great Spanish nation?
73 posted on 10/29/2004 1:49:33 PM PDT by Pharlap
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To: SF South Park Republican; mrplind; Oldeconomybuyer
"It never occurred to us that the commander in chief of the country (Bush) would leave 50,000 citizens in the two towers to face those horrors alone ... because he thought listening to a child discussing her goats was more important," bin Laden said, referring to Bush's visit to a school when the attack occurred. ---


Just damn. UBL is doing the Kerry Talking Points!

 

I'm John Kerry, and I approved this message!

74 posted on 10/29/2004 1:50:36 PM PDT by Radix (Watch this Tag Line for an October surprise.)
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To: kitkat

I can't get into the mind of a dumb kerry voter so who knows what they're thinking. So this helps Bush since it's showing Americans he's still there...and wants to harm us.


75 posted on 10/29/2004 1:51:15 PM PDT by queenkathy
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To: kitkat
From what has been translated and broadcast, I'd say that it is definitely anti-Bush. However, OBL also states specifically that Kerry cannot keep the American people safe either--only the American people can keep themselves safe.

It sounds to me that although he likes Bush less than Kerry, he doesn't like either one of them at all. He sounds like one of my neighbors.
76 posted on 10/29/2004 1:51:18 PM PDT by oceanagirl
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To: Soul_of_Chogokin

fake ...

I agree. Something about the goat comment doesn't ring true...


77 posted on 10/29/2004 1:52:08 PM PDT by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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To: force recon

Great Tag!


78 posted on 10/29/2004 1:52:45 PM PDT by Radix (Watch this Tag Line for an October surprise.)
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To: All

I can't believe you guys think this is a plus for Kerry. The biggest terrorist in the world comes out for Kerry and you think that will help him? This puts it in the bag for Bush, make no mistake. Americans will not take a threat lying down and they will not vote the idiot into the white house. Remember how they responded on Sept 12? They will do the same now.


79 posted on 10/29/2004 1:53:00 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Scythian
I'm not turning in my tagline yet, but according to the most recent AP story he said the following:
"Your security is not in the hands of (Democratic candidate John) Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands," bin Laden said.

"To the U.S. people, my talk is to you about the best way to avoid another disaster," he said. "I tell you: security is an important element of human life and free people do not give up their security."

"If Bush says we hate freedom, let him tell us why we didn't attack Sweden, for example. It is known that those who hate freedom do not have dignified souls, like those of the 19 blessed ones," he said, referring to the 19 hijackers.

"We fought you because we are free .. and want to regain freedom for our nation. As you undermine our security we undermine yours."

The image of bin Laden reading a statement was dramatically different from the few other videos of the al-Qaida leader that have emerged since the Sept. 11 attacks.

In the last videotape, issued Sept. 10, 2003, bin Laden is seen walking through rocky terrain with his top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri, both carrying automatic rifles. In a taped message issued at the same time, bin Laden praises the "great damage to the enemy" on Sept. 11 and mentions five hijackers by name.

Sounds like he's seen Fahrenheit 911 anyway.
80 posted on 10/29/2004 1:53:07 PM PDT by Snake65 (Osama Bin Decomposing)
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To: Scythian
These tapes never mention anything recent, their old footage, no news here, he's dead folks

He's not dead. He mentions John Kerry as a presidential candidate in this tape.

81 posted on 10/29/2004 1:54:00 PM PDT by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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To: evanp

"Well, Osama has come out with his October surprise. Kerry and the media have come out with their October surprise with the explosives lost. WHERE THE HELL IS BUSH'S OCTOBER SURPRISE? WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR?"

October surprises are tricks by people who can't win on their own merit.


82 posted on 10/29/2004 1:54:09 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (The Hand of Providence is moved by the Arm of Volition.)
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To: IAmScotto

Good blog. But Michael Moore is so stupid he is probably proud that OBL's statement mirrors his movie. By the way, love your show, I listen quite often.


83 posted on 10/29/2004 1:54:13 PM PDT by bubbas_mom
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To: usastandsunited
"...Bush Administration has had 3 years to get rid of this killer, and he's still out there making video tapes!!!

Yeah, isn't it great?

This will kill Kerry's campaign.

84 posted on 10/29/2004 1:54:13 PM PDT by Radix (Watch this Tag Line for an October surprise.)
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To: oceanagirl
From what has been translated and broadcast, I'd say that it is definitely anti-Bush. However, OBL also states specifically that Kerry cannot keep the American people safe either--only the American people can keep themselves safe.

It sounds to me that although he likes Bush less than Kerry, he doesn't like either one of them at all. He sounds like one of my neighbors.

Could it be?

He's coming out for Nader!!!!

85 posted on 10/29/2004 1:54:31 PM PDT by leftcoaster
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To: sinkspur

I was out; is this good or bad for Bush?


86 posted on 10/29/2004 1:54:53 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: cwiz24
I thought so too. The similarities were more than just striking! Who says these guys don't pay attention to what our media is spewing?!!
87 posted on 10/29/2004 1:56:19 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: Howlin

Good if President Bush continues to ask "Do we fight them there or do we fight them here?"


88 posted on 10/29/2004 1:56:26 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

"He also accused President Bush of "misleading" the American people three years since the 2001 suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon."

--John Kerry, no wait Bin Laden


89 posted on 10/29/2004 1:56:58 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: Howlin

the honest answer - who knows?

in a way, I'm glad this tape was released. On Tuesday, we'll find out what this country is made of. This tape sticks it into our face, let's see what Americans are really made of. We may not like the result, but at least we'll know, it will be unequivocal.


90 posted on 10/29/2004 1:57:39 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: jrmink

THis guy is a body double. I do not believe it.


91 posted on 10/29/2004 1:58:10 PM PDT by Conservatrix ("He's a barf." --- Sophia T., Age 4, on John Baldrick "I have a cunning plan" Kerry)
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To: Snake65

Sweden is definitely on the list, and they know it.


92 posted on 10/29/2004 1:58:15 PM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Howlin
It's good for Bush, IMO. bin Laden reminds Americans of terrorism. He takes shots at Bush, a la Michael Moore.

I don't see how Kerry spins this, unless he says "See, bin Laden is still out there threatening America. I would have him by now."

Nobody buys that, but that's all he's got.

93 posted on 10/29/2004 1:58:54 PM PDT by sinkspur ("If you're always talking, I can't get in a word edge-wise." God Himself.)
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To: leftcoaster

Ha-Ha! That's it! OBL is a Naderite! I love it.


94 posted on 10/29/2004 2:00:16 PM PDT by oceanagirl
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To: theDentist
"Let's wait to see if it's really recent; Newpaper headlines, if he mentions very recent events, if it's his voice, etc."

The speaker in the video mentions Bush reading to the kids after the planes hit. That information didn't come out until the Michael Moore film, so the video has to be recent. The guy sure looks like Osama. Maybe it's just a good costume/makeup job, but the CIA doesn't think so.

Given the evidence, I think it's Osama, and recent.

95 posted on 10/29/2004 2:00:37 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: sinkspur
you are right....I just posted what Jamie Rubin had to say on The Daily Thread. They are already spinning this.

this most certainly can not be a spinning game for the President of the United States. Bush is at a distinct disadvantage here................UNLESS he speaks directly to the American people from the Oval Office. I doubt he will do this, not wanting to give bin Laden more prominence, but it would certainly make me feel better

96 posted on 10/29/2004 2:01:32 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@It's Official...The MSM Is Doing All It Can To Defeat George W. Bush.com)
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To: js1138

Sweden's just further down because they're a little softer. If Islamanazis knocked us down, the rest of the world would soon follow.

Pro-American? Yes. So sue me.


97 posted on 10/29/2004 2:01:55 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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To: calex59
I can't believe you guys think this is a plus for Kerry.

I'm with you. At the very least, it has no effect on either campaign. My gut feeling is that it will hurt sKerry, though.
98 posted on 10/29/2004 2:02:48 PM PDT by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours!)
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To: Soul_of_Chogokin
I think its a move to appease the American electorate. His organization thinks they can influence our elections more effectively by trying to appeal to the Public, while presenting themselves as just freedom and peace loving individuals (read: "terrorists"), since they have been unsuccessful in making "our streets run with blood".
99 posted on 10/29/2004 2:03:19 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: sinkspur

If the Kerry campaign tries to spin this in any way, they're going to get bit bad. Having said that, I think it's true of the Bush campaign, too.

I'm talking the horse race here, please understand, not right and wrong.


100 posted on 10/29/2004 2:03:53 PM PDT by good_fight
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