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Sandy O'Connor touts global law
AP ^ | October 28, 2004 | Not known

Posted on 10/29/2004 10:21:46 PM PDT by w6ai5q37b

Published October 28, 2004 ASSOCIATED PRESS


Justice Sandra Day O'Connor yesterday extolled the growing role of international law in U.S. courts, saying judges would be negligent if they disregarded its importance in a post-September 11 world of heightened tensions.
In a 15-minute speech at Georgetown law school, Justice O'Connor made no mention of the health of Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, 80, who was hospitalized this week for thyroid cancer and is expected to return to work Monday.
Justice O'Connor said the Supreme Court is increasingly taking cases that demand a better understanding of foreign legal systems. A recent example was last term's terror cases involving the U.S. detention of foreign-born detainees at U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, she said.
"International law is no longer a specialty. ... It is vital if judges are to faithfully discharge their duties," Justice O'Connor told attendees at a ceremony dedicating Georgetown's new international law center.
"Since September 11, 2001, we're reminded some nations don't have the rule of law or [know] that it's the key to liberty," she said. Later this term, the Supreme Court will decide the constitutionality of executing juvenile killers. The case has attracted wide interest overseas, with many foreign nations filing briefs pointing to international human rights norms as a justification for outlawing the practice.
Justice O'Connor, who is expected to be a pivotal vote, didn't mention the case, but said recognizing international law could foster more civilized societies in the United States and abroad.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: constitution; globalism; internationallaw; justiceoconnor; newworldorder; oconnor; sandraoconnor; scotus; transjudicialism; worldgovernment
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"International law is no longer a specialty. ... It is vital if judges are to faithfully discharge their duties,"

Translation: I refuse to use the US Constitution as a standard in making decisions, rather I will make decsisions based on foreign and international laws.

Anyone else think this broad should be impeached?
1 posted on 10/29/2004 10:21:46 PM PDT by w6ai5q37b
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To: w6ai5q37b

IMPEACH SANDY


2 posted on 10/29/2004 10:23:53 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: w6ai5q37b

We have a government riddled with traitors. How can our nation survive?


3 posted on 10/29/2004 10:25:25 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (They should rename it to World Hugh instead of World Series!!!!)
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To: w6ai5q37b

Ronald Reagan's worst mistake as President. By far.


4 posted on 10/29/2004 10:27:02 PM PDT by 1L
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To: w6ai5q37b

Just another reason NOT to have an America-doubting "internationalist" as President, nominating Supreme Court Justices even more likely to be of like (non-American, internationalist) mind.


5 posted on 10/29/2004 10:27:43 PM PDT by FreeKeys (A TRAITOR for President? NEVER! Besides, nutcase Scary Kerry wants to give nuclear fuel to Iran!)
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To: w6ai5q37b

Whenever I see this crap about international law, I ask myself, who makes up these laws? What int'l body, what legislature? Does it include the 30 muslim dictatorships in the UN who don't allow voting or women to show their faces?


6 posted on 10/29/2004 10:32:26 PM PDT by spyone
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To: w6ai5q37b

She's using her oath as toilet paper.


7 posted on 10/29/2004 10:33:34 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: w6ai5q37b; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
8 posted on 10/29/2004 10:33:35 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: w6ai5q37b

I'm with you, her talk scared me.


9 posted on 10/29/2004 10:33:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: w6ai5q37b

Impeach this traitorous BI*CH...it's time to march on DC with pitchforks if we have to.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 10:34:48 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: GeronL

No doubt! She has just openly violated her oath.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 10:35:09 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: w6ai5q37b

Hey Sandddraaa... I think you need to look over your job description again you fool.


12 posted on 10/29/2004 10:35:52 PM PDT by arly
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To: w6ai5q37b
"Since September 11, 2001, we're reminded some nations don't have the rule of law or [know] that it's the key to liberty," she said.

I guess she's jockeying for an appointment to the World Court or sumfn

13 posted on 10/29/2004 10:36:08 PM PDT by The Red Zone (The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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To: w6ai5q37b

If we had a Congress with some spine they'd impeach her for lack of "good behavior" the first time she used foreign precedent.

The problem with our activist Judiciary is due to a lack of Congressmen who will do their job.


14 posted on 10/29/2004 10:36:50 PM PDT by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: w6ai5q37b
She's been saying this for years; all she's doing now is giving it a post-9/11 paint job.

Not that it makes her extremist global community views any less of a threat to our nation. She wants Kerry's 'global test' to apply to our judicial system, and that's simply unacceptable.
15 posted on 10/29/2004 10:37:03 PM PDT by Antonello
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To: w6ai5q37b

O'Connor has been deteriorating for several years now. I wouldn't be surprised if staff has to follow her around in case she soils herself. Damn shame - - she was once a competent and thoughtful jurist who took the US Constitution seriously.


16 posted on 10/29/2004 10:38:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
O'Connor has been deteriorating for several years now ...

Has anyone checked her for Alzheimer's?

17 posted on 10/29/2004 10:39:44 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: clee1
No doubt! She has just openly violated her oath

Because she knows nothing will happen to her. This country is going to fall apart if we don't get back to having some standards

18 posted on 10/29/2004 10:40:25 PM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: w6ai5q37b

That is the scariest thing I have ever heard.

This is just another reason why we so desparately need more "strict constructionists" on the Supreme Court.


19 posted on 10/29/2004 10:41:25 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: w6ai5q37b
at a ceremony dedicating Georgetown's new international law center.

We're just way too old fashioned...They're way ahead of us on this...They're even building new buildings to teach this stuff to unsuspecting students who are growing up to be 'international lawyers'...

20 posted on 10/29/2004 10:44:09 PM PDT by Iscool (Why is Kerry the Dem candidate??? Because Castro wasn't interested...)
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To: w6ai5q37b

She no longer is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice, and should be removed immediately.


21 posted on 10/29/2004 10:45:38 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: SALChamps03

In a sense she's no fool. She knows the courts, and the Supreme Court in particular, lead the country around by the nose. What better place for internationalist leverage.


22 posted on 10/29/2004 10:47:39 PM PDT by The Red Zone (The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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To: w6ai5q37b

OH, YEAH! Ever since her first mutterings about taking international court decisions into account when ruling on US cases. Can her.


23 posted on 10/29/2004 10:48:58 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: w6ai5q37b
"Since September 11, 2001, we're reminded some nations don't have the rule of law or [know] that it's the key to liberty," she said.

If that's the case, all the more reason to stick to OUR Constitution which is tried and true.

24 posted on 10/29/2004 10:49:29 PM PDT by Shethink13
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To: ApesForEvolution
Impeach this traitorous BI*CH...it's time to march on DC with pitchforks if we have to.

Caravan of pickups with AR-15s if you ask me.

25 posted on 10/29/2004 10:49:36 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: 1L; farmfriend; Carry_Okie
"Ronald Reagan's worst mistake as President. By far."

Not any worse than Dwight Eisenhour's mistaken appointment of Earl Warren!!! Ike even admitted that was his worst mistake.

This from O'Connor is unacceptable, too!!!

26 posted on 10/29/2004 10:50:12 PM PDT by SierraWasp (LONG LIVE "WINNER TAKE ALL!!!" Down with "Cows Don't Vote!!!" Stop "Rural Cleansing!!!")
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To: Jack Black

We're going to approach territory that even Lincoln didn't want to broach...but he did.


27 posted on 10/29/2004 10:51:18 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: GeronL

Too late, FRiend, too damn late.

This country, as it is presently constructed, is doomed.

The only possible way to fix it is several decades of REAL conservative leadership. I'm afraid that's not gonna happen.


28 posted on 10/29/2004 10:51:31 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Jack Black

I prefer a Mr. Nasty Streetsweeper, myself. Makes a nice close-up mess.


29 posted on 10/29/2004 10:52:30 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

It won't.


30 posted on 10/29/2004 10:52:59 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Might I suggest something with a longer reach?


31 posted on 10/29/2004 10:53:36 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: w6ai5q37b

Impeach, mental illness


32 posted on 10/29/2004 10:56:42 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: GeronL

IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!IMPEACH!...


33 posted on 10/29/2004 10:57:24 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: w6ai5q37b
"Anyone else think this broad should be impeached?"

Absolutely!

But, unfortunately, she's not the worst of them. There are some very smug subversives on the court beside her.

34 posted on 10/29/2004 10:57:52 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: clee1

I wouldn't do it in this forum FRiend...


35 posted on 10/29/2004 10:58:58 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: w6ai5q37b
Justice O'Connor, who is expected to be a pivotal vote, didn't mention the case, but said recognizing international law could foster more civilized societies in the United States and abroad.

Except that the inability to discriminate between right and wrong are signs of barbarism, not civilization. O'Conner incorrectly believes that an international consensus is a higher order than American law. As a jurist, a professional finder of fact, she should know better.

Consider just one piece of evidence: the International Criminal Court. This is an enormous step backwards in the cause of human rights. It violates very nearly every judicial and evidentiary protection of the Bill or Rights. Its victims can be tried in secret, by secret tribunals, upon secret evidence that even their attorneys cannot see. Their is no right to a trial by peers. And worst of all: the ICC enforces "laws" that do not even exist in the sense the we understand them. The "laws" tried by the ICC are not written by marjoritarian legislatures, and they are not clear, precise and unambiguous, but depend rather on a "consensus understanding" of international "law." Even the penalties for defying such "laws" are not even well defined.

In fine and in sum, the promotion of International Law, and its spotty enforcement, is a descent into the darkness of the rule of men, away from the enlightenment of the rule of law. It is a rejection of 225 years and more of understanding, and a return to the middle ages, when self-appointed tyrants ruled the Earth.

36 posted on 10/29/2004 10:59:05 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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To: FredZarguna
Consider just one piece of evidence: the International Criminal Court. This is an enormous step backwards in the cause of human rights. It violates very nearly every judicial and evidentiary protection of the Bill or Rights. Its victims can be tried in secret, by secret tribunals, upon secret evidence that even their attorneys cannot see. Their is no right to a trial by peers.

And of course Sandra would have an apoplexy if she saw it happened here. Oh well, I guess by your lights a despot Ruler of the World is better than none, Ms. O'Connor.

37 posted on 10/29/2004 11:14:09 PM PDT by The Red Zone (The reason they're trying to starve her isn't because she's dying, but because she isn't. [Supercat])
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To: w6ai5q37b

I took a class in "International Law" at law school, and it was by far my poorest grade (thus far). I was so relieved! If I had done well, I would have feared that there was something wrong with me. As it is, receiving a bad mark in such a farcical class reconfirms my status as an American.


38 posted on 10/30/2004 12:29:16 AM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (The Hand of Providence is moved by the Arm of Volition.)
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To: w6ai5q37b

Well, at least she waited until his body was cold.


39 posted on 10/30/2004 12:31:59 AM PDT by Old Professer (About the hearty and haughty the humble harbor a horrid hatred that hobbles the heavy heart.)
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To: w6ai5q37b
Ann Coulter did a good job of describing how absurd the Supreme Court has become:

"Oh, you see an abortion clause in there? OK, I don't see it, but we'll enforce it. Sodomy, too, you say? OK, it's legal. Gay marriage? Just give us a minute to change the law. No prayer in schools? It's out. Go-go dancing is speech, but protest at abortion clinics isn't? Okey-dokey. No Ten Commandments in the courthouse? Somebody get the number of a monument removal service.

What passes for 'constitutional law' can be fairly summarized as: Heads we win, tails you lose. The only limit on liberal insanity in this country is how many issues liberals can get before a court."


Judges that interpret the constitution are labeled as "activist" or "dangerous" while judges that literally make up laws from the bench out of thin air are called "main stream" and "fair." It's essential that President Bush be reelected for a number of reasons - the fact that the next President will likely choose judges that remain on the bench for a generation is certainly one of them.
40 posted on 10/30/2004 1:06:02 AM PDT by Jaysun (HAVE YOU GIVEN ALL YOU CAN TO RALPH NADER??????)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!


41 posted on 10/30/2004 3:04:43 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: w6ai5q37b
I saw this and went ballistic.

This is proof that there needs to be an upper age limit for Supreme Court Judges.

She wants to dilute our Constitution by stirring in European Court precedent.

she is attacking the very foundation of our Republic.

Regards,

42 posted on 10/30/2004 4:23:47 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: w6ai5q37b
Anyone else think this broad should be impeached?

Ive been calling for her impeachment for the last two years when she first starting making her rulings based on international law.But have been ridiculed and told to shut up for the last two years because by god she was apointed by one of our lords nad savoirs ronald reagan and to impeach her would taint ronnies legacy. One of the things the ""conservatives"" on freerepublic better realise and better realise very very quickly i s that international law almost exclusivley bans all firearms of any caliber. Hell there was a story posted on freerepublic this summer about a group of german men that are faceing 12 years in prison in germany becasue they were showing off a potato(E?) :-) gun to thier friends and the cops saw it to.So I really dont give a tinkers damn whether it makes rons legacy look bad we have to impeach at least 5 members of the supreme court starting with good ole sandy day.

43 posted on 10/30/2004 7:49:08 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: GeronL

Can We? Has that ever been done?


44 posted on 10/30/2004 7:50:32 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: w6ai5q37b
heres the case iwas talking about in my post if this twit gets her way these kinds o f cases will be coming to america Three German Men Face Weapons Charges for Potato Gun
45 posted on 10/30/2004 8:12:01 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: w6ai5q37b
Oh, 'Impeachment' is always such a nasty process. Why not just 'promote' her to the ICC...

...and give her vacant seat to respected jurist MIGUEL ESTRADA ???...That way she can lunch with her friends whenever she wants...


46 posted on 10/30/2004 12:59:42 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was ALSO a 'war hero'... before he became a Traitor!!!)
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To: farmfriend; All
Ping to 46... another possible 'solution'...?


47 posted on 10/30/2004 1:12:49 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (Benedict Arnold was ALSO a 'war hero'... before he became a Traitor!!!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

"How can our nation survive?"

It didn't.


48 posted on 10/30/2004 3:34:53 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: w6ai5q37b; GeronL; Stellar Dendrite; 1L; FreeKeys; spyone; SiliconValleyGuy; farmfriend; ...
Let's get serious. This thread is about surrendering our nation - and our flag - to entities who we don't know, who don't know us, and who don't give a twit about our system of law and business.

It doesn't get any worst, and their doing it without a shot being fired!!!

There are two things YOU CAN DO to stop the stampede to international control of business and government in our country:

1)
Call and e-mail the Supreme Court with your concern about the application of law in our country. Tell them of your serious concern about superceding our Constitution with decisions made by foreign courts:
E-mail: gpoaccess@gpo.gov
Telephone: (888) 293-6498

2)
Begin the distribution of the Congressional Petition below seeking the removal of Justice O'Connor from the Supreme Court:

Petition to the United States Congress
to Hold an Inquiry to Weigh the Impeachment of
Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor

Whereas, Article VI, Clause 2 of the Constitution holds: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”; and

Whereas, Article VI, Clause 3 of the Constitution holds: “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution”; and

Whereas, Article III, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States charges members of the Supreme Court shall only “....hold their offices during good behaviour....”; and

Whereas, Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor did willfully and publicly rescind her oath of office made to the people of these united States of America, and

Whereas, Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor did willfully and wrongfully publicly promote an abrogation of the Constitution of these united States of America by declaring the application of foreign government law and foreign court decisions as superior to supreme law of our country, as well as national, state, regional and local court decisions, statutes and ordinances; and

Whereas, it is unfair to Justice O’Connor and the American people to unduly delay a resolution of the charge of breaching her oath of office and her attempt to subvert the rule of law in these united States of America; and

Whereas, only in the context of an official House Judiciary Committee Impeachment Investigation can we find out whether impeachment Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor may be legally warranted.

Therefore, we, the undersigned urge you, Representative

_______________________________________________________ to sponsor a House Resolution to launch an official inquiry to determine whether impeachment shall be initiated with respect to Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor.

Name, Address, City, State, Zip

1. _____________________________________________________________________

2. _____________________________________________________________________

3. _____________________________________________________________________

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5. _____________________________________________________________________

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Please print this petition, get it distributed to concerned Americans for their action.
Send the signed petitions to your Congressional representative, or forward signed petitions to:
Robert Drobot •• P.O. Box 1182 •• Los Gatos, CA 95031, and they will be sent to the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert

49 posted on 10/30/2004 3:54:44 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: 26lemoncharlie; Land of the Irish; Canticle_of_Deborah; ultima ratio; pascendi; nickcarraway; ...

Post # 49, FYI


50 posted on 10/30/2004 4:03:12 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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