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Oregonian told military about Iraq weapons looting
KGW Portland, OR ^ | 06:42 PM PDT on Friday, October 29, 2004 | By KGW and AP Staff

Posted on 10/29/2004 11:15:39 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777

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To: Welsh Rabbit

Kuhaida seems quite the partisan

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=5958


"What's the Plan?

Kuhaida also complained that RTI lacked a serious plan for delivering democracy. "We can't even get our own people in the United States to vote, how are we going to do that in Iraq?" he wondered. "We needed to at least do some strategizing and thinking, but I saw no evidence that we were doing that."

"There was no plan at all after the war," he added. "The whole thing was running on a whim, basically. There wasn't even a bad plan out there. I am totally disturbed by my government and the lies that were told to me. I take them personally.""


-even an honorable mention on aljazeerah:
http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2004%20News%20archives/April/17%20n/Campaign%20to%20Stop%20the%20War%20Profiteers%20in%20USA.htm

" “There was no plan at all after the war," said Jerry Kuhaida, who worked as a subcontractor with RTI from September 4, 2003 to March 12, 2004. "In spite of what (U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald) Rumsfeld said, there was absolutely no plan. The whole thing was running on a whim, basically. There wasn’t even a bad plan out there.” What few accomplishments there were, were “fluffed up,” he said. "We kept getting pressure to make reports look as positive as possible.” (Contractor tells why he left Iraq. Scripps Howard News Service. April 5, 2004)"


41 posted on 10/30/2004 12:21:13 AM PDT by DBeers
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I think I have enough for one day....hope tomorrow is not so hectic...


42 posted on 10/30/2004 12:26:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Me too, unless Bin Laden gets Whacked tomorrow.


43 posted on 10/30/2004 12:33:38 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: DBeers

He's a bitter malcontent and a quitter. His role in the rebuilding didn't work out as well as he envisioned so he quit and blames everyone else. Now he's just another armchair quarterback who claims he could have done everything better if he had been in charge...


44 posted on 10/30/2004 12:40:43 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: OUSoonerFreeper
Goodmorning OU, I am a native of TN, specifically the Tenn. River Valley of E.TN, until moving permanently to the Coast of SC near Charleston 10+ yrs ago. I do miss the Rivers and the Mountains in that area and wondered if you have spent any time in the Big South Fork NF. The big differences living in SC are the Atlantic Ocean at the door (the Big Sky effect) and the wonderful and truly conservative nature of this state. A lot of Patriots here and SC was, IMO, the key state in winning our freedom during the Revolutionary War.
45 posted on 10/30/2004 2:24:37 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero)
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To: OUSoonerFreeper
Yes How Bout them Sooners!

Even though I am living in rather remote area have been able to see every game except one this year.

However I do support the Cowboys when their not playing the Sooners. Went to both schools. Once football gets in your blood it just stays there.

Someone asked the other night why there were more registered Democrats in Oklahoma than Republicans. Well everyone knows that for years you could not vote in most local elections unless you were Democrat. Many counties had no Republicans registered and if they did no candidates. That all started changing with Ronald Reagan and has steam rolled with just about as many Republicans now registered. Oklahoma like many conservative states vote the man and not the party.

Will be watching the game Saturday early and praying for Bush.
46 posted on 10/30/2004 2:29:41 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: All

The Demos just lie and make this up..... bald face lie......


47 posted on 10/30/2004 3:09:14 AM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: CyberCowboy777

Anyone who listened to the news conference with the Ordnance Major speaking would have heard the major very clearly say that he had orders to control CERTAIN TYPES of munitions and to destroy them.

It might not occur to people, but an army on the move needs to be focused on the primary objective: the fighting of the war.

They also heard the major say that he had been given 3 missions: (1) Warfighting, (2)______(I don't remember), (3) Controlling and destroy captured enemy munitions....he expanded that to include the information about certain types of weapons. (Obviously, there all small arms ammo and many classes of artillery and mortar rounds are not of a variety that can do large scale damage to your war effort.)

This puts the lie to THE POINT Kerry had been making:

"That the U.S. troops had not been told to check ammo locations and control certain types of munitions."

The major clearly laid any such charge to rest.


What Kerry wants to do now is micromanage how and why they didn't do a shelf-by-shelf search of every bunker in Iraq.

Why? They were fighting a war!


48 posted on 10/30/2004 3:59:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Nothing about nuclear or chemical weapons I see.


49 posted on 10/30/2004 4:32:18 AM PDT by endthematrix (10 out of 10 terrorists agree-Anybody but Bush!)
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To: endthematrix

How many people here believe an aid worker was able to speak to a General in the middle of a major military operation???


50 posted on 10/30/2004 4:58:29 AM PDT by miner89 (Wherever you go, there you are)
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To: cookcounty

How did he know insurgents have the weapons?


51 posted on 10/30/2004 5:10:26 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (~ ~ ~ Democrats ~ We vote twice so you don't have to! ~ ~ ~)
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To: CyberCowboy777

This Wes Hare guy is a peacenik. Trust but verify...


52 posted on 10/30/2004 5:12:31 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: CyberCowboy777

Why should I believe anything from a state that's spring loaded to secession if Bush is re-elected?


53 posted on 10/30/2004 5:14:09 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: miner89

AHA - so I am in good company doubting that a whiney bedwetter "rebuilder" had an inside track instructing Sanchez on how to conduct the war. uh-huh.


54 posted on 10/30/2004 5:19:32 AM PDT by daybreakcoming ("The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!",,,,,,Baghdad Bob)
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To: CyberCowboy777

He never mentioned anything about it here
http://www2.icma.org/pm/8607/public/Hare.cfm


55 posted on 10/30/2004 5:20:41 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (~ ~ ~ Democrats ~ We vote twice so you don't have to! ~ ~ ~)
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To: Texasforever; CyberCowboy777
The men said they informed Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez

How convenient that two aid workers had access to the three-star commander.

56 posted on 10/30/2004 5:24:02 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: CyberCowboy777
To believe this you have to conclude that US soldiers just let the opposing force come back to their ammo dump and take what they want. Here let me help you with that case of hand grenades -- need a cart for that RDX, I'll get you one -- it's easier to carry those 155 mm artillery shells in a wheelbarrow, we keep them over there. Helpful US soldiers.

And Kerry was just discussing the weather with the VC in Paris.
57 posted on 10/30/2004 5:25:19 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: All

Yawn!


58 posted on 10/30/2004 6:26:01 AM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: CyberCowboy777

The Oregonian = NYT NW


59 posted on 10/30/2004 6:33:40 AM PDT by auboy (Ode to Massachusetts: You can have him, we don't want him.)
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To: Welsh Rabbit

I'm skeptical they ever met with Sanchez or anyone high up in his command. It's not easy for just anyone to get an audience with a three- star, or even a colonel for that matter.

That's is a very good point. So good that it prompted me to go back & re-read the article. This time around, I noted that the ''aid workers'' say they ''informed'' Sanchez. ''Informing someone'' can mean a lot of things (leaving a recorded message, posting a letter, leaving a msg. w/ an underling, sending an email...). I think you're right; they never met with Sanchez. W/ that in mind and a fresh cup of coffee in the am, I detect a lot of language parsing in the article along the lines of ''and we were told...'' Vs, ''Sanchez said...'' Lying by insinuation.

60 posted on 10/30/2004 6:33:57 AM PDT by elli1 (The total viewers of MSNBC is less than half a county in Wyoming.)
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