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Presidential bid a 'roller coaster' for Libertarian
Houston Chonicle ^ | October 31, 2004 | KRISTEN MACK

Posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

There's more than one Texan on the ballot for president this year.

Libertarian Michael Badnarik — the only third-party or independent presidential candidate on the Texas ballot — is from Austin.

Badnarik campaigned in Houston on Saturday and will spend the rest of his time on the trail in his home state.

"I'm a legitimate candidate from a legitimate party," he said at a gathering of about 25 people at a Clear Lake-area Fuddruckers.

Badnarik is actually on the ballot in more states than Ralph Nader. Badnarik is on 48 ballots. Nader is on 35.

Election Day could be a watershed year for the party, Badnarik said, if it is able to garner 1 million votes.

He's been traveling the country since January; he packed up his place in Austin, put all of his belongings in storage and hit the road.

Within five months he put 25,000 miles on his car.

He tries to get media attention wherever he goes, often doing six interviews a day with local media.

He has been largely ignored by the national press.

Badnarik was arrested in St. Louis for trying to gain admittance to the presidential debate.

"It's been like living on a roller coaster without getting off," he said of his bid for president.

He's spent about $1 million on his campaign, with $300,000 going toward TV ads in a few states, primarily New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona.

Badnarik is running, he said, because he can't vote for President Bush or Democratic candidate John Kerry and respect himself in the morning.

He cannot support a candidate who will continue the war in Iraq or operate government in a deficit, he said.

Badnarik, a computer consultant, stresses individual rights over government intervention, and limited regulation of business.

He says the war in Iraq is a failure and that there is no exit strategy. He has maintained that Libertarian philosophy supports gay marriages, arguing that government should not decide who can engage in a marriage contract.

The federal government's job is limited to three things, he said — national defense, coining money and operating the post office. He says the government should not have a Department of Education, the Food and Drug Administration or the Environmental Protection Agency.

Badnarik says he wants to cost both Bush and Kerry the election, but at the same time he isn't packing his bags for the White House just yet.

"We are just beginning this fight," he said. "We will continue to exist, and we will restore liberty."

kristen.mack@chron.com


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1 posted on 10/31/2004 12:43:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Badnarik says he wants to cost both Bush and Kerry the election

Clymer.

2 posted on 10/31/2004 12:46:49 AM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Badnarik says he wants to cost both Bush and Kerry the election..."

LOL! Which would be why he and his people are running their ads only on conserative stations in Washington state...where the LP played spoiler before.

3 posted on 10/31/2004 12:47:19 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Drango

I would vote libertarian if they weren't isolationist... I really don't identify the "religious right" aspect of the republican party.


4 posted on 10/31/2004 12:48:22 AM PDT by Fallstaff
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To: CWOJackson

Interesting.


5 posted on 10/31/2004 12:48:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Badnarik will garner the fewest votes ever for a Libertarian Presidential candidate. I doubt he will recieve more than .05% of the vote, or 600,000 votes


6 posted on 10/31/2004 12:49:02 AM PDT by MJY1288 (A MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK HAS NEVER LED ANY TEAM TO VICTORY)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Not a rollercoaster, more like an elevator, going down.

I'd be more libertarian if they weren't as robotic as socialists, i.e. let the starving die, who cares, and when they go there'll be no more starving. Yes I know I'm oversimplifying but I had a fight with the woman and am cranky. Where's that cough syrup?

7 posted on 10/31/2004 12:50:30 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Fallstaff
I really don't identify the "religious right" aspect of the republican party.

Or I suspect, with the "religious socialist fervor" of the Democratic or Green Parties.

8 posted on 10/31/2004 12:50:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

what a joke. If they want to have an impact they should run a candidate in the GOP primaries.


9 posted on 10/31/2004 12:51:38 AM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"The federal government's job is limited to three things, he said — national defense,"

Yet their position is basically open borders and amnesty. Yeah, that's a brilliant way to keep america safe!

While I hold a lot of walter E williams / goldwater type libertarian positions, I find it impossible to align myself with them at this time. They're acting like children who want a toy and have been told 'no' buy their parents.


10 posted on 10/31/2004 12:51:51 AM PDT by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The problem with this puff piece on the LP is that the LP put out their own press release last week. In it they clearly stated that their objective was prevent President Bush from getting reelected. Now they appear to be trying to spin away from that.


11 posted on 10/31/2004 12:51:56 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Fallstaff
I've voted losertarian in the past. But as someone else said... working to defeat someone who you agree with 90% of the time, resulting in electing someone you disagree with 90% of the time, doesn't make any sense.
12 posted on 10/31/2004 12:52:05 AM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: Darkwolf377

You're right.

Use some Vicks vapo rub.


13 posted on 10/31/2004 12:52:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hmmm. I've never seen a whole rollercoaster track that was level and ground level.


14 posted on 10/31/2004 12:53:54 AM PDT by familyop (Receive, adhere, listen, dissolve, entice and launch.)
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To: CWOJackson

Even more interesting and believable!


15 posted on 10/31/2004 12:53:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Badnarik is actually on the ballot in more states than Ralph Nader. Badnarik is on 48 ballots. Nader is on 35.

And Nader has a much larger constituency. The Greens have sure been lackadaisical about making their applications to appear on the ballot, stick.

16 posted on 10/31/2004 12:54:14 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I'm a legitimate candidate from a legitimate party," he said

"I'm good enough, and I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."

17 posted on 10/31/2004 12:55:11 AM PDT by AHerald ("Be what you is, cuz if you be what you ain't, then you ain't what you is.")
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To: Fallstaff; All

I thought about voting Libertarian this year, but when I found out they were going to change the way the WOT is going to be fought, I have decided no way in heck I'm going to vote for those losers..


18 posted on 10/31/2004 12:55:30 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: MJY1288
Badnarik will garner the fewest votes ever for a Libertarian Presidential candidate

Perhaps. But Losertarian votes cost the GOP two senate seats by siphoning off conservitive voters. A Pox on them.

19 posted on 10/31/2004 12:56:51 AM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: flashbunny

I suspect that's because you, like I, in the end love America more than you love your own personal self-interests.


20 posted on 10/31/2004 12:57:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I'm a libertarian with a SMALL l, thank you. The national Libertarian Party is run by idiots who every four years waste millions of hard-won dollars for no purpose whatsoever.

And if I had to cast the deciding ballot between Bush and Badnarik, I'd vote for Bush without hesitation. Libertarians like Badnarik don't seem to understand that national defense is one of the few legitimate uses of government power, and that the War on Terror, including the war in Iraq, is an integral part of national defense.


21 posted on 10/31/2004 1:02:15 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I'm a legitimate candidate from a legitimate party," he said at a gathering of about 25 people at a Clear Lake-area Fuddruckers.

Not if you're drawing only 25 people.

22 posted on 10/31/2004 1:04:05 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: CWOJackson
Thank you for the *ping* to this LINK.

Badnarik TV ads target conservative voters***..."Michael Badnarik is going to bring his small-government message right into the living rooms of 96 million households who have a right to be angry at Bush," said Joseph Seehusen, the Libertarian Party's executive director.

"This ad tells Republican voters that the best way to get the party's attention is to patronize the competition -- and that means voting Libertarian." ...***

23 posted on 10/31/2004 1:04:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A lot of it has to do that the current LP is acting like idiots, and I don't like to associate myself with idiots.


24 posted on 10/31/2004 1:04:58 AM PDT by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: MJY1288

600, 000 is greater than the number of votes Gore got over Bush in 2000. Badnarik-- an Austinite backed by Leftwing money-- could cost Bush the election. This guy is a fraud. It's easy to claim you're a big libertarian when you're really a tool for the Left.


25 posted on 10/31/2004 1:05:43 AM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: clee1
Not if you're drawing only 25 people.

Yeah but another 30 woulda come but they were too stoned to make it.

26 posted on 10/31/2004 1:06:25 AM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: Politicalities
It's good to have a lot of people under the GOP tent. The rich mix of ideas and their interplay, makes us a strong party.

The Dems just keep sliding farther and farther to the extreme left.
27 posted on 10/31/2004 1:07:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Politicalities

They aren't even in favor of national integrity when it comes to things like the illegal immigration issue. That floors me. To turn America into the world's doormat is the most insane nihilism. Not that Bush has acted much more firmly, and probably won't until we get another gang of 9/11 style attackers that trooped in through the south door.


28 posted on 10/31/2004 1:07:22 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When this election is over Conservative America needs to take a good close look at some of the elements within it's own ranks once and for all.

If their agenda is to defeat the only politicians running who best represent our views then these groups need to be properly identified and considered for what they really are...not our allies.

29 posted on 10/31/2004 1:09:21 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

They're running on FNC as well and everytime they come on,here,I throw pillows at the T.V.!


30 posted on 10/31/2004 1:09:25 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Drango

If they are consenting adults in their own home I don't care what they do.

I agree with alot of the libertarian ideals - but their leadership is confounded by idiocy.


31 posted on 10/31/2004 1:09:50 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Fallstaff
They also want OPEN BORDERS.
32 posted on 10/31/2004 1:10:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: drlevy88

trooped in => troop in


33 posted on 10/31/2004 1:10:20 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: CWOJackson

As the GOP grows stronger, I believe we will see that.

Being out of power for so long takes time to repair.

Running good candidates at the state level and moving them up takes time and commitment.


34 posted on 10/31/2004 1:11:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Politicalities

National Defense (and abortion) would be where I disgree with Libertarians. I think I would be comfortable however describing myself as a fiscal libertarian. Naturally hating big government. Ie. With the NSA, FBI and CIA, why did the US need another monolithic entity like Homeland Security?

How much of the vote will Nader pull from Kerry? Will any of it come from Florida?


35 posted on 10/31/2004 1:11:11 AM PDT by Lord Nelson
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To: KevinDavis

Their foreign policy position seems to ignore the fact that we made a commitment. I do not think that we can honorably withdraw support from Iraq and Afghanistan in the near future.


36 posted on 10/31/2004 1:11:34 AM PDT by mailbox1282000 (what about honoring commitments)
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To: nopardons

I wonder if the LP's dope initiative sugar daddy Soros is funding their anti-Bush campaign?


37 posted on 10/31/2004 1:11:51 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: nopardons
They're running on FNC as well and everytime they come on,here,I throw pillows at the T.V.!

Nah, not you nopardons!

LOL

38 posted on 10/31/2004 1:12:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mailbox1282000
"Their foreign policy position seems to ignore the fact that we made a commitment."

It also ignores the fact that we aren't living in the 1700's.

39 posted on 10/31/2004 1:13:32 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

You said it Chief!

We are being overrun with UnAmerican types and it is time to take a stand; either you are with us or you are against us.

The will (hopefully) be time in the future to settle these kinds of differences. Right now, it is far more important to defeat the terrorists and their international socialist appeasers. The rest of the extraneous bullsqueeze will just have to wait.


40 posted on 10/31/2004 1:14:12 AM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: CWOJackson
I have absolutely NO doubt,whatsoever,that Soros is playing sugar-daddy to the LP. :-(
41 posted on 10/31/2004 1:14:39 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: CWOJackson

Not officially I'm sure, but a nod and a wink and there is surely a way.


42 posted on 10/31/2004 1:15:32 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yep...ME! I'm also screaming at the muted set. LOL


43 posted on 10/31/2004 1:15:33 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Running good candidates at the state level

Yeah like the blue senate nitwit in Montana


44 posted on 10/31/2004 1:17:16 AM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: nopardons
Wherelse are they getting all their money for these ad campaigns? I sure doubt it's from bake sales in California.

I'd be very interested to know in what areas they are running their ads. If you remember, buchanan spent almost all of his advertising money campaigning against President Bush in the hotly contested states.

It would be interesting to know if the LP is doing their most in the battleground states.

45 posted on 10/31/2004 1:17:37 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: mailbox1282000; All

That is correct... If we withdrawl from Afganistan and Iraq right now, it is going to be real bloody over there if we leave. My guess if Bush wins Iran is next. It is going to be fought on three fronts. From Iraq, Afganistan, and Internally. Will fight with Iraq to attack Iran..


46 posted on 10/31/2004 1:19:11 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: CWOJackson
with $300,000 going toward TV ads in a few states, primarily New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona
47 posted on 10/31/2004 1:20:01 AM PDT by Drango (NPR- When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: Drango

Don't forget the "Spitting Druid". He was my personal favorite.


48 posted on 10/31/2004 1:20:15 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: clee1
"I'm a legitimate candidate from a legitimate party," he said at a gathering of about 25 people at a Clear Lake-area Fuddruckers.

Not if you're drawing only 25 people.

Especially if it's their national convention.

49 posted on 10/31/2004 1:20:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Lord Nelson

fiscal libertarian is good


50 posted on 10/31/2004 1:21:21 AM PDT by GeronL (FREE KERRY'S SCARY bumper sticker .......... http://www.kerrysscary.com/bumper_sticker.php)
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