Lawyers for Brokaw say hunting on adjacent land is unsafe

Casper Star Tribune ^ | 31 October, 2004 | AP

[brityank]

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Lawyers for Brokaw say hunting on adjacent land is unsafe AP Slugline: w9427_BC_WY__Brokaw_Outfitter_1 liv-abhmssgms LIVINGSTON, Mont. (AP) - Lawyers for ''NBC Nightly News'' anchorman Tom Brokaw want a judge to require the Montana Board of Outfitters to review a decision that allows a Wyoming outfitter to guide big-game hunting trips on land next to Brokaw's Montana ranch. ''The complaint we have is safety, plain and simple,'' Clifford Edwards, a Billings attorney representing Brokaw, told District Judge Nels Swandal at a hearing Friday. ''Tom and (wife) Meredith are not anti-hunting - they are concerned for their safety.'' On Sept. 1, the Board of Outfitters granted Wyoming outfitter David Nelson's request to take up to 10 hunters onto more than 2,500 acres of private land bordering the Brokaws' West Boulder Ranch during archery season, court records said. West Boulder Ranch caretakers Karen and Doug Campbell testified Friday that increased hunting would put them, the Brokaws and their guests in harm's way. ''I'm terrified someone will get shot,'' Karen Campbell said, adding she was ''not so sure'' outfitters knew their clients' hunting skills well enough to ensure the Brokaws' safety. ''We are not anti-hunting. We have no objection to our neighbors hunting on that property as they have in the past and I'm sure will again in the future,'' Brokaw told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from his office in New York. ''And we have no objection to bow and arrow hunting,'' Brokaw said. ''Our concern has always been about an out-of-state outfitter bringing strangers onto property with which they are not familiar that is very close to our home and buildings and the use of high-powered rifles.'' Edwards said Campbell's feelings were supported by a case heard in Justice Court earlier Friday, in which a man was cited for accidentally shooting his hunting guide with a .300 caliber Magnum rifle. Edwards said the Brokaws' land, southeast of Livingston, encompasses ''a 340-degree circle'' around some of the land on which Nelson wishes to hunt. Edwards subsequently told The AP that Brokaw's concerns don't extend to other lands owned by a neighbor and adjacent to U.S. Forest Service property. He said the state hunting permits are not exclusive to archery hunting, but also allow rifle hunting in areas that present a ''horribly hazardous situation for the Brokaws, permanent employees, livestock, all of this.'' An injunction against Nelson, issued last week, prevents guided hunts on the neighboring property until the review of the Board of Outfitter's decision is complete. Wayne Johnston of Helena, executive officer for the state Board of Outfitters, told The AP the Brokaws allow bird hunting on their property with shotguns. ''The Brokaws are trying to tell their neighbors who they can and cannot allow on their property and for what reasons,'' Johnston said. ''It seems like an infringement on their neighbors' property rights.'' AP-WS-10-29-04 2206EDT

Copyright © 2004 by the Casper Star-Tribune published by Lee Publications, Inc., a subsidiary of Lee Enterprises, Incorporated

[upyours53]

Another example of a rich elitist. He owns your property to, but does not want to pay for it.

[brityank]

Another elitist cockroach willing to use his rights to usurp others.

Ping.

[The_Victor]

...10 hunters onto more than 2,500 acres of private land bordering the Brokaws' West Boulder Ranch during archery season, court records said.

And safety of the Brokaw ranch is at issue? This should be thrown out of court just for the stupidity alone.

[FormerACLUmember]

Ah yes, a typical rich liberal: "what's mine is mine.. what's yours is mine."

Wouldn't want a dangerous BOWHUNTER shooting you from a mile across the valley.

[Paine in the Neck]

This land is my land,
Your land is my land

[1rudeboy]

Hey, Tom! You have a problem? Buy the eff-ing land in question. Problem solved.

[KenD]

Indeed... they claim they fear the use of high powered rifles... during the archery season???

Just like Brokaw, their arguments are internally inconsistent.

[RIGHTWING WACKO FROM MASS.]

totally agree with you...10 bowhunters on 2500 acres... give me a break...here in the people's republic of mass it's pretty tough to find that much open land to hunt...I'm on about 170 acres and there's about 8 or 9 of us bowhunting it with no safety worries...more proof liberals are morons

[Grampa Dave]

Brokaw is the typical elitist fascist at the top of the Rat Pack.

Acrchery hunters will not endanger anyone. Hell, good hunters with rifles on a ranch that size will not hurt anyone.

Brokaw is just a new version of the old lefty elitist fascist POS, Uncle Walter Chronkite.

[Mamzelle]

Is this pasture, or woodlands? How long is archery season?

Just let some deer jump through Tommy's windshield, and hear them change their tunes...They ought to do a study on how much more likely the "guests" are to get killed by a deer than an accidental shooting.

[The_Victor]

more proof liberals are morons

I'd even settle for the proof applying strictly to Tom.

[Grampa Dave]

Brokaw is preparing himself to be another PIA for America like his role model Uncle Walter:

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CRONKITE: KARL ROVE BEHIND BIN LADEN TAPE
Drudge Report ^ | 10/30/04` | Matt Drudge


Posted on 10/30/2004 1:37:06 PM PDT by conservative in nyc


CRONKITE: KARL ROVE BEHIND BIN LADEN TAPE Sat Oct 30 2004 16:31:19 ET

Former CBSNEWS anchorman Walter Cronkite believes Bush adviser Karl Rove is possibly behind the new Bin Laden tape.

Cronkite made the startling comments late Friday during an interview on CNN.

Cronkite said he is "inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, he probably set up bin Laden to this thing."

Interviewer Larry King did not ask Cronkite to elaborate on the provocative election eve accusation.

Developing...

[YaYa123]

This reminds me of Walter Cronkite, other celebrities, and MSM elites on Martha's Vineyard who profess environmental concerns, call for wind power generated electricity, but go to court to keep "unsightly" windmills from spoiling the view from their summer homes.

[brbethke]

btt

Tell your hunting friends: if they vote for John Kerry, this is what all American hunting will look like within five years:

Wayne Johnston of Helena, executive officer for the state Board of Outfitters, told The AP the Brokaws allow bird hunting on their property with shotguns.

You will be able to do all the bird hunting you want -- and only bird hunting -- provided you do it with a $5,000 double-barrel shotgun and do it on your own estate. It will be just exactly like England, where only the landed aristocracy and a few lucky farmers can get licenses to own shotguns, and all rifles, handguns, pump, and semi-auto shotguns are as illegal as heroin.

A vote for Kerry is a vote for that future. Bet on it.

[PajamaTruthMafia]

Come on guys go easy on Brokaw! If you were easily mistaken for a wild chicken you'd be afraid of a hunter busting a cap in your ass too! LOL!

[discipler]

Elitist!! People like this disgust me.
It is outrageous.
Hey Brokaw, MOVE!

[Ghengis]

''We are not anti-hunting. We have no objection to our neighbors hunting on that property as they have in the past and I'm sure will again in the future,'' Brokaw told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from his office in New York.

And we have nothing against stupid people. We just wish that they kept their mouths shut and left normal people alone.

Why do these leftists keep reminding me of the bratty kid kid characters in the Willie Wonka movie?

[MissAmericanPie]

Why move to Montanna then? Stay on Park Ave. where you only have to worry about a mugger with a .38?

[SLB]

The only worry Brokaw should have is if they are shooting coyotes, other scavengers or maybe big rats.

[bayourod]

Browkow has a very legitimate point though. If Hillary were a guest on his ranch and some hunter mistook her for a water buffalo there could be an embarrassing incident.

[B4Ranch]

LOL

[ArmedNReady]

"Brokaws' land, southeast of Livingston, encompasses ''a 340-degree circle'' around some of the land on which Nelson wishes to hunt."


Oh yea, one of those 340-degree circles that they are teaching the kids about in the new math.

Duhhhhhmasses!

[Spirochete]

TB doesn't actually live at the ranch, does he? Doesn't he live in a Park Avenue apartment?

[baltodog]

The first thing that came to my mind was a high-powered rifle....then I read about the archery thing.

I can understand the dangers of a .300 Mag in the hands of an inexperienced person. But these kind of hunting accidents are not something you hear about all the time. I'll bet more people are hurt by New Year's discharges and 4th of July celebrations than "adjoining property/hunting" accidents.

Also, this article gives the impression that his family-room window is inches away from the property line. I fail to beleive that

[Stateline]

Hike up your panties Tom....Your in Montana...

[Tench_Coxe]

Good way to make friends with the locals there, Tommy.

[Valin]

West Boulder Ranch caretakers Karen and Doug Campbell testified Friday that increased hunting would put them, the Brokaws and their guests in harm's way.

''I'm terrified someone will get shot,'' Karen Campbell said, adding she was ''not so sure'' outfitters knew their clients' hunting skills well enough to ensure the Brokaws' safety.

with a bow and arrow? Give me a break!

[tickles]

''And we have no objection to bow and arrow hunting,'' Brokaw said. ''Our concern has always been about an out-of-state outfitter bringing strangers onto property with which they are not familiar that is very close to our home and buildings and the use of high-powered rifles.''>>>>>>

Hmmmm, so since they're afraid of rifles they want to ban bow and arrow hunting. makes sense.........yeah they aren't against hunting.

[stboz]

Please tell me he's no where close to the 63 Ranch.

[therut]

Oh heck, I wonder how Brokow would FEEL about me shooting a deer with a .243 on my 40 acres of land. Good Grief give me a break.

[knuthom]

We invite hunters to come hunt on our land. There are too many deer.

[RJL]

Elitist!! People like this disgust me. It is outrageous. Hey Brokaw, MOVE!

Yes, move to France!

[ridesthemiles]

"Brokaws' land, southeast of Livingston, encompasses ''a 340-degree circle'' around some of the land on which Nelson wishes to hunt."


Oh yea, one of those 340-degree circles that they are teaching the kids about in the new math.

Duhhhhhmasses!""


I think what he is saying is exactly that: The Ranch that Brokaw bought is possibly shaped like a large "C" and circles around, but not the full 360 degrees around another piece of property.

In any event, all of the above posts are correct- The elite move into the rural areas and start telling the locals what the elite will tolerate and what has to stop.

The reference to the gentry and the expensive guns sport shooting- not using the meat- is exactly where this is all going. No matter how many acres Brokaw buys, there will always be someone next door to him, and he cannot tell me what I can or dannot do on my land without a fight.

Stay on top of similar items in your local areas. Attend the County council or Supervisors meetings, and keep yourself informed of the wonderful rules and regs the elite are trying to pass on the unwashed land owners.



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[Troublemaker]

TB doesn't actually live at the ranch, does he?

In the summer, he comes up now and then. He likes to fish and I see him in the town of West Yellowstone from time to time. The guy's a total ass in the way he treats locals. Not friendly, at all. I've been on the property the article discussed. West Boulder valley is very pretty - Just wish Brokaw would leave.

[AuntB]

"''I'm terrified someone will get shot,'"

Dolts. You have a lot more chance of getting shot walking out of your studio than on that land. To quote Michael Jackson, "That's ignorant"....

Brokaw, go back to the city where you belong!

[UpToHere]

''We are not anti-hunting. We have no objection to our neighbors hunting on that property as they have in the past and I'm sure will again in the future,'' Brokaw told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from his office in New York

Interesting comment. How about all TV news anchors be required to run all broadcasts before a truth verification committee prior to airing. Exposure of current broadcasts subjects my family and I to unusual anguish thru unnecessary exposure to lying.

Al

[asgardshill]

This smells like a legal strategy that PETA and other animal rights wackos could use to completely ban hunting. Just buy up one acre adjoining any area where hunting is allowed, claim that anybody on the one acre would be endangered by the hunting, friendly judge smacks his gavel and all hunting in the area is banned.

Stroke of the pen - law of the land. "Cool".

[Squantos]

Joseph Goebbels once killed millions with his mouth thus I want a court order to make Brokaw STFU to insure my safety.....and that of my nation.

[spectr17]

Lockjaw's cheese has slid off his cracker. I've got a neighbor who makes these same foolish assertions. He claims my archery practice MIGHT kill him or his children if my arrow misses my target, goes through tthe plywood backstop, then through 2 wooden fences. Thank god for blunts, they put these people in their rightful place.

[Squantos]

Yeah my whiny neighbors cryin forced me to get a can for my MAC-10......:o)

I understand what yer going thru. I actually use a golf bag to transport my rifles to and from the range as nosy old ladies around my abode will call you and tell ya that "leaves" are falling off my tree onto their yard etc etc.

I love the fall....

[WaterDragon]

the Brokaws' land, southeast of Livingston, encompasses ''a 340-degree circle'' around some of the land on which Nelson wishes to hunt.

Sounds like the Brokaws are maneuvering to buy the land their property encircles. First, deny the other owner the right to use his land profitably, then make an offer?

[joesnuffy]

Naturally he decides to visit his ranch during hunting season just to complain via lawyer about the neighbors

Brokaw you are an a hole...stay in NY City in your condo or parkside villa flat or in one of your other houses until hunting season is over...

On the other hand...who knows...maybe it would be good for all of America if you did stay in Montana during high powered rifle season..

imo

[Daryl L.Hunter]

Do you suppose that if agenda driven news anchors reported the news evenhandedly that they would be less worried about their safety when they went out west? Should New Yorkers by trying to change Montana? Should Tom just stay in New York where he feels safe among his peer group?

I live not very far from there and I am tired of liberals moving in and changing the political landscape. I live in Jackson Hole and I have started calling it Berkley of the Rockies in my local newspaper articles and letters to the editor. What used to be billed as the "Best of the Old West" is no more. If I was Tom or Ted I'd be worried about arrows also!

Citizens For A Freer America & The Upper Valley Free Press

Daryl L. Hunter - Editor

[farmfriend]

Another elitist cockroach willing to use his rights to usurp others.

Sheesh! This guy is unreal!

Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

ROFL!!!

[cookcounty]

Oh, the woes of the rich. You get 2,500 acres and then you still have neighbors. Is there no justice? Oh, the trials of Job all over again...... Poor Tom, he already is having to work harder at his research since Karl Rove won't check his homework for him anymore.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Oh yea, one of those 340-degree circles that they are teaching the kids about in the new math.

Got the kids need help....we are turning into a mathematically illiterate country....

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Unreal is right!

Thanks for the ping.....