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Consolidated links to the articles about Kerry's NON-HONORABLE discharge
Numerous sources ^ | 10/31/04

Posted on 10/31/2004 10:49:13 AM PST by mumzie

Edited on 10/31/2004 11:13:50 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I have felt for quite some time that this would be the October surprise that takes Kerry down. Hopefully, it isn't too late. I've gathered all the articles we've posted to the site over the last month, and put all the links on this page for your enjoyment. Tell all your friends. Tell everyone you know. Forward it to everyone on your email list - friend, foe, or acquaintance. It's for YOUR country!!! Let's get him!!!

Kerry's non-honorable discharge

THE Next Smoking Gun - the "proof"

Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?

Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge

Editorial Comments about Kerry's Discharge

Kerry Military Discharge Deception, look at the online documentation!"

Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge

The original article, posted 9/24/04


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: discharge; dishonorable; kerry; kerrydischarge; kerrysecrets; militaryrecord; nonhonorable; vietnam
In reading today's emails, I realized that this issue is getting VERY CLOSE to the surface - where even the MSM won't be able to ignore it.

As webmaster of combatvetsagainstkerry.com, I've been posting articles about this for the past month.

I thought it was time to put them all in the same place, so anyone could find them EASILY. SPREAD THE WORD!!!

1 posted on 10/31/2004 10:49:14 AM PST by mumzie
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To: mumzie; All

Let's make them click:

Kerry's non-honorable discharge http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41200

THE Next Smoking Gun - the "proof" http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/proof.htm

Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding? http://www.humaneventsonline.com/blog-buzzcut.php?range=10/24/2004+-+10/30/2004

Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge http://www.townhall.com/columnists/markalexander/ma20041023.shtml

Editorial Comments about Kerry's Discharge http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/dischargeeditorials.htm

Kerry Military Discharge Deception, look at the online documentation! http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge2.htm

Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge http://www.nysun.com/article/3107

The original article, posted 9/24/04 http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge.htm


2 posted on 10/31/2004 10:55:00 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: mumzie
Why was Kerry discharged six years late?

Welcome to Kerry Country

3 posted on 10/31/2004 10:55:02 AM PST by pabianice
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To: mumzie
It is too late because the Administration and/or the Republican Party decided to "take the high road".

I'm not sure how burying this story for weeks is "taking the high road", but that's how I see them handling it.
4 posted on 10/31/2004 11:00:11 AM PST by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: mumzie
It is too late because the Administration and/or the Republican Party decided to "take the high road".

I'm not sure how burying this story for weeks is "taking the high road", but that's how I see them handling it.
5 posted on 10/31/2004 11:00:11 AM PST by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: mumzie

Excellent! I have added a link to the bottom of my page at http://freedomkeys.com/propagandist.htm (which is for EVERYone to
consider copying and emailing to everyone else and asking them to do the same). Today.


6 posted on 10/31/2004 11:04:17 AM PST by FreeKeys (A TRAITOR for President? NEVER! Besides, nutcase Scary Kerry wants to give nuclear fuel to Iran!)
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To: backhoe
Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/blog-buzzcut.php
 
 

 
Significant documents from Kerry Campaign website, each of which is clearly an official US Navy Record document ..
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Request_For_History_of_Service.pdf

24 May 1986 Request for documentation of Naval Service

Lists following significant dates:

18 Feb 1966    Enlisted as an OCSA (E-2) - USNR Inactive
19 Aug 1966    Commenced active duty as an OCIU2 (E-5)
16 Dec 1966    Honorably Discharged as OCIU2 to accept commission in the                                               United States Naval Reserve
16 Dec 1966    Accepted Commission, Ensign, United States Naval Reserve, continued                               active duty
16 Jun 1968     Date of Rank as Lieutenant (Junior Grade) (O-2), United States Naval                                   Reserve
01 Jan 1970     Date of Rank as Lieutenant (O-3), United States Naval Reserve
03 Jan 1970     Released from Active Duty,
Transferred to the Naval Reserve (inactive)
01 Jul 1972     Transferred to the Standby Reserve (inactive)
16 Feb 1978    Honorably Discharged from the United States Naval Reserve as a                                           Lieutenant (O-3)
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Release_From_Active_Duty.pdf
 
Detached 1600, 2 January 1970  ... upon the expiration of which at 2400, 3 January 1970, you will regard yourself released from all active duty and transferred to inactive duty in the US Naval Reserve
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Transfer_To_Standby_Reserve.pdf
 
4.  A review of your service record indicates that your membership in the ready reserve will soon expire.  In view of this, you are strongly encouraged to complete enclosure (1)  and return it via the command maintaining your service record.  This should be done prior to 1 April or 1 October, whichever occurs first after the date of this correspondence.

5. b.  If you do not submit enclosure (1) at this time, your transfer to the Standby Reserve-Inactive (USNR-S2) will become effective on 1 April or 1 October of this fiscal year.
 
The effective date of transfer to the Standby Reserve-Inactive as indicated in reference (a) is hereby modified to read 1 July 1972 vice 1 April 1972.
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf
Prepared February 16, 1978 (effective date of discharge)
The Navy Department at this time expresses its appreciation of your past services and trusts that you will continue your interest in the naval service.
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD-215_Correction.pdf
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf
WHERE IS PAGE ONE OF THIS DOCUMENT?
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Record_of_Discharge.pdf
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Statement_of_Service_1967.pdf
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Acceptance_of_Discharge_Naval_Reserve.pdf
July 13, 1978
The Commanding Officer, Naval Reserve Personnel Center, desires to add this expression of appreciation to that of the Secretary of the Navy and offers his best wishes for success in your future endeavors.

7 posted on 10/31/2004 11:04:48 AM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: golfboy

I don't think so.

If this story gets out there, and this election isn't "decided" on Tuesday, this story could make a HUGE difference.

In the world of contested ballots, voter fraud decisions, and questionable ballots, it would be nice to see some of the Democrats in the position to make the decisions change their mind about their candidate if they become disgusted enough with him.

They just might be persuaded by this story to make the right decisions regarding these election issues.


8 posted on 10/31/2004 11:09:55 AM PST by serpentineshel
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To: backhoe
Get some paper with John Kerry, BCD, Government signature, and form number and I will fax it to every medea outlet in NE, but it has to be on paper.
9 posted on 10/31/2004 11:09:58 AM PST by Little Bill (John F'n Kerry is a self promoting scumbag!)
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To: FreeKeys
We have to assume that BC04 knows what is in Kerry's files and that they do not see a need to use it, at the moment - a hold card. If so, then holding this may be extremely useful in getting the Dems to back-off the post-election legal fights that would undermine the legitimacy of a victory that is less than a landslide. Imagine the problem of pursuing legal action for a candidate who received a less than honorable discharge. It would kill the Democratic Party.
So assuming, and this is a big assumption, that the internal GOP polls indicate that we are in good shape, there may well be a potent rationale for letting this potential Sword of Damocles dangle awhile longer.
10 posted on 10/31/2004 11:13:40 AM PST by bjc (Attachments?)
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To: bjc

bump


11 posted on 10/31/2004 11:19:49 AM PST by Cottonbay
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To: bjc
so what happened to the story about the guy who gave kerry the other then honorable discharge?
wasn't that suppose to come out today?
12 posted on 10/31/2004 11:20:11 AM PST by postaldave
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To: Wolverine

Good info & links- copied & saved, thanks!


13 posted on 10/31/2004 11:21:02 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: mumzie

There was a post at 4:00(EST)this morning about an interview JFK gave on November 6, 1971.

Swiftvets found this interview of Kerry in 1971 form Cspan. After discussing the Medal Toss he is asked about a dishonorable discharge

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1262429/posts

In the interview, the moderator said something very strange. He said,"We're talking to former Lt. John Kerry." He then went on to ask the following question, "Was there ever any question about you being dishonorably discharged?" Kerry replied, "Oh no, no, that has never been questioned."

On the prior thread, people seemed to get hung up on the supposed admission that Kerry didn't dispute the dishonorable discharge thing. I personally think that he was saying, my discharge has never been questioned. But obviously, there has to have been a discharge for there to have been a question about it.

Also,why would be be introduced as "Former" Lt. John Kerry on 11/06/71? Also, why would he not state that he was still an officer on active reserve. In 1970 he was transferred to Active Reserve but supposedly not "discharged". He was scheduled to be discharged in mid 1972, but only "record" of discharge was in 1978 under Carter.

I'm just a mom, but if I hadn't been discharged, I would have corrected the moderator about the use of the term "former". I would have noted that I was still an officer on active reserve. Can anyone imagine a possibility of JFK passing up a chance for self-aggrandizement? One can only imagine him saying, I am an officer in the United States Navy, a highly decorated Viet Nam Vet.

Perhaps the moderator misspoke and Kerry didn't bother to correct him, but again at the end he says, "Former Lt. John Kerry" and again, no correction from Kerry.

How does this square with a 1978 discharge?

Just curious.


14 posted on 10/31/2004 11:42:06 AM PST by infogeekmom
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To: mumzie

What's a "non-honorable" discharge?


15 posted on 10/31/2004 11:42:50 AM PST by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: TankerKC
What's a "non-honorable" discharge?

the charge is "other than honorable."

but again, what happened to story about the person who gave kerry the other then honorable discharge.

16 posted on 10/31/2004 11:46:48 AM PST by postaldave
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To: mumzie

bump


17 posted on 10/31/2004 11:49:15 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: mumzie
Here's a good one to add to your collection:

Kerry's October Surprise (Missippi Press)

and I just posted this one.. interesting read. The True Face of a One-Eyed Jack
A vote for Kerry is a vote against America and everything America stands for.

18 posted on 10/31/2004 11:53:15 AM PST by cgk (I'll keep posting it until you READ IT. Pay attention!)
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To: postaldave

If we want this to be credible, we need to use the correct terms. I've always heard "less than honorable" to describe general, bad conduct, & dishonorable discharges. I'm not sure what all of the categories are, but I've never heard of a "non-honorable" discharge.


19 posted on 10/31/2004 11:53:18 AM PST by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: mumzie; backhoe; The Sailor; grace522; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; txradioguy; ...

Spread the word on the internet!

Post on internet boards AND e-mails!

John Kerry's Discharge
He won't sign Form 180
What is he hiding?

"There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge
or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge
without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge,
he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals.

And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!"

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41200

THE Next Smoking Gun - the "proof"

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/proof.htm

Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/blog-buzzcut.php?range=10/24/2004+-+10/30/2004

Kerry's Dishonorable Discharge

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/markalexander/ma20041023.shtml

Editorial Comments about Kerry's Discharge

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/dischargeeditorials.htm

Kerry Military Discharge Deception, look at the online documentation!

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge2.htm

Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge

http://www.nysun.com/article/3107

The original article, posted 9/24/04

http://www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com/discharge.htm

The whole 42:09 Stolen Honor online FREE right now! E-mail it NOW!

Stolen Honor nails Kerry and the VVAW
and how they lied at Winter Soldier.
And how Kerry lied to the US Senate in 1971
And how Kerry and his pack of liars caused our POW's to suffer!

Kerry and the DNC cannot stop
EVERYONE on the internet from seeing this!

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Tick, Tick, Tick, Tick


20 posted on 10/31/2004 12:02:38 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Nov 2 : Remember the 58,000 + Names on the Wall)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Send John Kerry a Standard Form 180

21 posted on 10/31/2004 12:06:04 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; mwl1; Chieftain; kingattax; TomGuy; JohnHuang2; Interesting Times; ...

Ping!!!!!!!


22 posted on 10/31/2004 12:06:46 PM PST by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: mumzie
Good job, here mumzie!

I bookmarked this for future reference! Thanks a lot!


23 posted on 10/31/2004 12:07:45 PM PST by SheLion ( Rove knew that sKerry was a man that stood for nothing and therefore would fall for anything.)
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To: TankerKC
actually, commissioned & warrant officers are DISMISSED rather than discharged for conduct that is "less than honorable", if you want to be technical.

free dixie

24 posted on 10/31/2004 12:07:50 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie
I said I wasn't sure what all the categories are...If you want to be technical. We just need to use the correct terms.

I have not had to worry about abrupt endings to my service--so far.

25 posted on 10/31/2004 12:11:32 PM PST by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
the "federal government" of this country has NO GUTS.

otherwise, HANOI-John would have been re-called to active naval duty just long enough to face a GCM for numerous punishable offenses under the UCMJ, be convicted & sent to the DB for a long stretch of confinement.

free dixie,sw

26 posted on 10/31/2004 12:11:37 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 10/31/2004 12:32:55 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: mumzie

bttt


28 posted on 10/31/2004 12:35:26 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: mumzie
Thanks for posting this.

I skipped over most of these (frequent and often duplicate) "Discharge" posts, pretty much being "Kerried Out" on his lies after having read "Unfit for Command" shortly after it hit the bookstores.

I just assumed anything he says about his military service is a lie and a fraud, plus my head was swimming, trying to keep the shear volume of the facts about his lies straight.

Decided to read the consolidation, just so I could throw it some ignorant lib's face after Bush wins.

It does look like he got an Other or Undesirable discharge, probably had his medals taken away, and got it all fixed sometime post-Carter pardon (had forgotten about that inexcusable Carter fact).

The redactions in the PDF docs in what appears to be the original date areas are even more curious, if not damning.

It's one thing to bend the truth (ok, the RATs lie) about economic statistics or your opponent's political record during a heated campaign; I've come to expect it of DemonRATs.

It's quite another to flat out lie about your military service;

a) claim medals that weren't earned in the first place

b) medals that were probably rescinded in the second place

c) abandon your troops in a combat zone based on a technicality of three (unearned) purple hearts.

d) lie about your less-than-Honorable military discharge.

e) lie about your comrades in arms committing atrocities under oath (not that such a trivial thing as an oath before God would stop Kerry from lying).

then, stand in front of the entire country and base your entire campaign on this on this Cheops-sized pyramid of lies.

It just baffles my mind that such pure deceit and evil could be so entrenched in a major political party in a country with a free press and free elections (granted, today's press isn't exactly "free").

Then again, history shows us what Hitler and the Nazi's accomplished. I hate to make that comparison, given all the left's moronic Nazi rhetoric about Bush, but I can't think any other modern-day equivalent (Communist countries were equally evil, but never had anything approaching a free press or free elections).

It's not that such abhorrent excuses for human beings exist in the world, it's just that it's incomprehensible that one such as Kerry could rise to the top of his political party in a country like America.

29 posted on 10/31/2004 12:52:55 PM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: mumzie
1971 JOHN KERRY CSPAN INTERVIEW - HE'S ASKED ABOUT "HONORABLE/DISHONORABLE" DISCHARGE

Listen carefully to the answer he gives her.........

30 posted on 10/31/2004 1:19:39 PM PST by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; ...
Everybody knows the Swift Boat Vets didn't have anything
to hide, and didn't try to hide.   On the flip side, "Hanoi
John" refused to face up to, or answer the charges in
"Unfit for Command.   Therefore, the winner is the Swift
Boat Vets and America.   Kerry can SHOVE IT!!!



31 posted on 10/31/2004 2:34:45 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: golfboy

"It is too late because the Administration and/or the Republican Party decided to "take the high road"."

There's no "there" there. I was in Navy personnel admin for a *long* time, and there's nothing that's not easily explainable. None of these "smoking guns" is significant.

I would love for this to be true, but there's just no indication that it is.


32 posted on 10/31/2004 2:46:25 PM PST by dsc (LIBERALS: If we weren't so darned civilized, there'd be a bounty on them.)
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To: Smartass
haha!

I think Bush will win decisively and swiftly Tuesday night.
(I made this pic for someone else).


33 posted on 10/31/2004 2:55:56 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

IT DOESN'T MATTER

The DemOrats will whine whichever way he wins.
I don't care how Bush wins. Decisive, quick, clean,
smooth, rough, a field goal w/three seconds, Hail Mary,
or down and dirty.   As long as he wins!!!


34 posted on 10/31/2004 3:15:37 PM PST by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bookmarked and BTTT


35 posted on 10/31/2004 3:24:31 PM PST by LakeLady (I am the FEMALE ALPHA DOG POLITICAL ACTIVIST OF THE CENTURY! I hunt & tree demonRATS... WOOF! WOOF!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 10/31/2004 3:37:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Smartass
haha!

Yep!

Heavy GOP turnout will overcome this kinda cra*!:



37 posted on 10/31/2004 3:44:08 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Smartass

I laughed so hard I almost...

That is perhaps the funniest thing I've ever seen here.


38 posted on 10/31/2004 4:22:43 PM PST by infogeekmom (Bush, Burr, Ballantine)
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bttt


39 posted on 11/02/2004 3:00:33 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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